Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 158419)

You'll get no argument from me. I do, however, hope that all of the bickering about Trump doesn't make people lose sight over how hard China fucked the world (including their own citizens) by covering this up, which included lying to the WHO that this wasn't contagious between humans. Because of the cover up no one outside of the Chinese government knew how really bad this was until shit started hitting the fan in Europe, and by then it was too late to contain it.

I'll get off my soapbox now. My apologies for bringing politics into the sports discussion, lol.

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 158434)

Not a soapbox. Cold, hard truth.

Authoritative governments control the media to ensure that only their message gets out. There is no concept in China about the government working for their people's best interest; there is only that a government works towards its own best interest.

China is truly the bad guy in this scenario. Regardless of what you think of the current U.S. administration, don't lose sight of the basic fact that China's government is the complete opposite of a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 158343)

And Trump who is compounding our issues. Worst leader ever.

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 158434)

Not a soapbox. Cold, hard truth.

Authoritative governments control the media to ensure that only their message gets out. There is no concept in China about the government working for their people's best interest; there is only that a government works towards its own best interest.

China is truly the bad guy in this scenario. Regardless of what you think of the current U.S. administration, don't lose sight of the basic fact that China's government is the complete opposite of a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 158418)

Worst SECNAV ever as well. Thomas Modly. As a former sailor, that dude needs to resign ASAP. Absolutely disgusting what he said about the captain of the Theodore Roosevelt. Nobody gets to the position of commanding officer of an aircraft carrier by being naive or stupid. It's a good thing he didn't say that garbage while aboard the TR. Dude might not have made it off the ship. He wouldn't have made it off of mine. "Worst" and "Trump" seem to go hand in hand.

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 158412)

Adolf Hitler says hello:cool:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 158419)

You'll get no argument from me. I do, however, hope that all of the bickering about Trump doesn't make people lose sight over how hard China fucked the world (including their own citizens) by covering this up, which included lying to the WHO that this wasn't contagious between humans. Because of the cover up no one outside of the Chinese government knew how really bad this was until shit started hitting the fan in Europe, and by then it was too late to contain it.

I'll get off my soapbox now. My apologies for bringing politics into the sports discussion, lol.

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 158459)

And now, apparently, Modly has resigned. Good. Once again it appears that kissing Trump's ass rarely works out well for anyone except Trump.

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 158434)

Not a soapbox. Cold, hard truth.

Authoritative governments control the media to ensure that only their message gets out. There is no concept in China about the government working for their people's best interest; there is only that a government works towards its own best interest.

China is truly the bad guy in this scenario. Regardless of what you think of the current U.S. administration, don't lose sight of the basic fact that China's government is the complete opposite of a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."