In the real world, imagine a top salesperson in a Fortune 500 company who makes that company a ton of money. Salesperson gets burned out and goes to management and says it's time to move on in life. What do you think happens? Management instantly sees a lot of lost revenue, money made that can't possibly be replaced since there are no other sales staff who make the company anywhere near as much money. So management tells the money-maker to take some time off, come back in a week and things will be great. Maybe a few months pass with things seemingly being good enough, but eventually, the salesperson has once and for all had enough--totally checked out, no going back. Of course, when it actually goes down, management is going to do what they can to save face and say they had no idea and thought everything was great.

You don't see how any of that would translate to the Luck situation? Of course, I have no sources, but no one here has sources for whether or not the Colts would be better off punting or going for it on 4th down, but here we are.

So, you have an “opinion”. You don’t have the truth.

Luck himself said he had been considering it for 2 weeks before the announcement. And that he promised himself after the shoulder injury that he wouldn’t go through that again.

That tells me the ankle not responding is what led directly to his retirement. That isn’t a long time frame.

No shit, you mean my posts are my opinion?! Holy fuck, thanks for that revelation. I obviously was stating everything I've said as fact, let me attach my bibliography.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ment-in-march/

They absolutely knew, as did the rest of those on the inside throughout the nfl. They had appearances to uphold and tickets to sell.

OK I get why you all think that way. I just don’t know as none of us really know. Maybe they knew. Maybe they didn’t. Doesn’t matter to me. It’s a football team so everyone gets to believe whatever they want.

Well, since a friend with family who works for the nfl told me a month beforehand, I am pretty damn certain. The probability that he was fucking with me and it ended up true is next to nothing. Unfortunately, he got like his fifth dui and I likely will never see him again to pick his brain further.

I take it that after his 5th DUI, he no longer works for the NFL. I also believe that AV had an injury he was trying to work through, but I imagine that if he retired just before the season, fans would have lambasted him too.

Why would Luck lie about the two week timeline? What would he have to gain? He’d just be providing cover for management. And don’t say it was agreed that Luck would lie if Irsay would honor his contract. That’s bullshit. Anyone who knows Irsay knows that’s how he rolls.

Furthermore, if Luck truly was considering retirement all summer and the franchise knew it, how did it not get leaked like his actual retirement? There’s no way that news would have stayed under wraps that long. There would have been rumors, and not just after the fact.

The bottom line is, there’s more evidence that this caught the Colts off guard then there is that they knew.