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jasperhobbs 12-02-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 145907)
Are you Ryan Grigson?

No I am not Ryan Grigson, why would you say that?

jasperhobbs 12-02-2019 08:22 PM

I believe the Colts should draft a defensive player in the first round. defensive tackle or edge rusher.


With 2 second round picks, go receiver and maybe a quarterback.

Chromeburn 12-02-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 145965)
I believe the Colts should draft a defensive player in the first round. defensive tackle or edge rusher.


With 2 second round picks, go receiver and maybe a quarterback.

I think quarterback takes top priority and you do what you need to to get the best you can. If we wanted to draft a DT should have done it last draft, that was the draft to do it.

QB then address the other positions. Although a WR in the first three rounds would be preferable, a guy who can run routes and knows the nuances of the position instead of some athletic project.

Lots of athletic ends in the style we like in the next draft.

rcubed 12-02-2019 09:47 PM

Depends on the QB available when we pick first round. If there is a good prospect take it. If not take DL and roll with JB again. Even if you take a QB we probably will still start JB next year anyway.


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rm1369 12-02-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 145969)
I think quarterback takes top priority and you do what you need to to get the best you can. If we wanted to draft a DT should have done it last draft, that was the draft to do it.

QB then address the other positions. Although a WR in the first three rounds would be preferable, a guy who can run routes and knows the nuances of the position instead of some athletic project.

Lots of athletic ends in the style we like in the next draft.

I don’t like the “do what you need to to get the best you can” thinking. I’m guessing you don’t mean it quite the way it comes off. Trading significant draft capital for a marginal improvement over JB isn’t in the teams best interest. They need a franchise QB, not a slightly better QB. If Ballard believes a guy is a franchise guy then yeah do what it takes. But chasing the best they can get in the draft at QB is a recipe for disaster.

albany ed 12-03-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 145972)
Depends on the QB available when we pick first round. If there is a good prospect take it. If not take DL and roll with JB again. Even if you take a QB we probably will still start JB next year anyway.


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I agree. Early in the year, when JB had a few decent WRs, some folks here were making him a top 10 QB. He was never that good, but now with no WRs to speak of, folks are putting him at the bottom of the barrel. I think this team can win with JB, but he'll never be more than a cog in the machine. Look at the Pats, with their weak WR crew. Brady looks ordinary and we all know he's still one of the best. This team needs to get better, and to get some depth so that they can handle injuries. Sure, they can use a better QB, but very few QBs if any could have flourished in Sunday's game with that sorry group of WRs. JB didn't allow the go ahead FG to result in a 7 point deficit. That's on our vaunted OL.

Luck4Reich 12-03-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 146007)
I agree. Early in the year, when JB had a few decent WRs, some folks here were making him a top 10 QB. He was never that good, but now with no WRs to speak of, folks are putting him at the bottom of the barrel. I think this team can win with JB, but he'll never be more than a cog in the machine. Look at the Pats, with their weak WR crew. Brady looks ordinary and we all know he's still one of the best. This team needs to get better, and to get some depth so that they can handle injuries. Sure, they can use a better QB, but very few QBs if any could have flourished in Sunday's game with that sorry group of WRs. JB didn't allow the go ahead FG to result in a 7 point deficit. That's on our vaunted OL.


Noone here said JB was top 10 ever!

albany ed 12-03-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 146009)
Noone here said JB was top 10 ever!

Not directly, but there was a post that talked about him getting a HUGE contract in his next signing. It was in answer to my saying that one good thing about JB was that he'd never command break the bank money, which would mean not having to lose other key players in free agency.

Luck4Reich 12-03-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 146010)
Not directly, but there was a post that talked about him getting a HUGE contract in his next signing. It was in answer to my saying that one good thing about JB was that he'd never command break the bank money, which would mean not having to lose other key players in free agency.

Some had hoped he would improve I think. The guy is and always will be a career back up. A pretty good one too for a few games if needed.

rm1369 12-03-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 146011)
Some had hoped he would improve I think. The guy is and always will be a career back up. A pretty good one too for a few games if needed.

I think he can be an average starter when given adequate help and weapons. He just can’t elevate those around him. You can win a SB with those kinds of guys - if your overall team is great and everything breaks right in a given year. If not for his own injury and the injuries to every other weapon on offense, the team would have a much better record and most would have a different impression of him. Fans are extremely fickle - especially when it comes to the QB position. He wasn’t as good as it appeared early and he isn’t as bad as he appears now. But it’s the most important position on the team so of course you want someone elite. Ballard should absolutely be looking for an improvement, but he can’t force it if the right guy isn’t there. He slow rolled when the team had Luck, so it would make no sense to force it now without him.


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