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JAFF 01-10-2022 06:49 PM

Home much blame should be placed on the O line?
 
The Colts couldnt run the ball last Sunday, and they should shoulder 1/2 the blame for the sacks and hurries by an average at best Jags defense.

Wentz wasnt great,but I feel the O Line sucked, and are getting off light from the fans and press

Racehorse 01-10-2022 06:58 PM

Hard to quantify. Was Reich calling bad plays, or was Wentz checking out of them into bad plays? Was Wentz not seeing the mismatches, or did the line not give him enough time to spot them? Were the WRs not getting open, or were they open on the wrong side of the field for Wentz to throw to them? I would say you have to split them blame equally between the line and Wentz, with a touch of blame on the WRs and on Frank.

rcubed 01-10-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 220533)
The Colts couldnt run the ball last Sunday, and they should shoulder 1/2 the blame for the sacks and hurries by an average at best Jags defense.

Wentz wasnt great,but I feel the O Line sucked, and are getting off light from the fans and press

nah. it was a total team collapse and most know it.

wentz's performance was just the exclamation on his continued decrease towards the end of the season.

Chromeburn 01-10-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 220533)
The Colts couldnt run the ball last Sunday, and they should shoulder 1/2 the blame for the sacks and hurries by an average at best Jags defense.

Wentz wasnt great,but I feel the O Line sucked, and are getting off light from the fans and press

Whole team was to blame for the loss. Stars did nothing. Wentz was supposed to be the reason we won games like this and he can't do it.

JAFF 01-10-2022 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 220541)
Whole team was to blame for the loss. Stars did nothing. Wentz was supposed to be the reason we won games like this and he can't do it.

From where I was sitting (on my couch) Wentz was getting moved off his spot by a D line that isnt very good

Brylok 01-10-2022 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 220541)
Whole team was to blame for the loss. Stars did nothing. Wentz was supposed to be the reason we won games like this and he can't do it.

To beat the Colts, just stack the box and contain Taylor as best you can and make Wentz throw it. He can't carry a team. Secure the ball on offense to prevent the Colts defense from creating turnovers. Collect your win.

Oldcolt 01-10-2022 08:49 PM

This team is constructed for the line to dominate. That is what Ballard said he wanted to do and that is where he spent money and draft capital. It bombed, for two games. Plenty of blame to go around but these are the guys that are counted on to set the tone for our team, they didn't. Question for them is why?

Brylok 01-10-2022 09:07 PM

I'll also add this: we never get accurate injury information from the Colts going back to Peyton's neck surgery days. Never. So if those guys and Wentz had actual coronavirus, well, that shit drains your energy and you don't get back to normal for days and days. I had it last January and even after I was at home for two weeks and then tested negative, I still had issues here and there with fatigue. One of my bosses had it and he would get winded walking a flight of stairs. So if that was the case, no wonder they looked dead on their feet the last couple of weeks. But we'll never know, because the Colts.

Lov2fish 01-10-2022 09:26 PM

A perfect QBR is 100, Average is 50. Wentz was a 4.4 The line was shit for certain, but he did his usual overthrow, underthrow and hang onto the ball far to long. The talking heads talk about his low interception rate. They obviously have not watched any film to see the 75 other pics the defenders dropped or just had hands of stone. He got bailed out a lot this year by the defenders who should picked him clean.

I supported the trade and was doing my best to get on board with it, but Lord have mercy he made it difficult by midseason, and had me chewing a huge plate of crow by this past Sunday. He is a horrible decision maker with the ball.

ChoppedWood 01-10-2022 09:41 PM

This is a really good thread.

The OL has been bad at pass blocking all season. What we can never know is, as has been pointed out, the calls that are being made and where the ball is designed to go vs what is being done.

Perhaps there are some short quick hit routes dialed up, perhaps. My hunch after watching this team as closely as I do across many many years, is, no, they aren't. Instead my belief is Reich just says to himself "oh they'll get better" and continues to call the same overly complex routes just knowing his boy and that line will get it done. Which they NEVER did all year, but hey, why adjust anything?

As for the line itself, they share a LOT of blame for these losses. You can be Montana, Brady or Mahomes and if you have no time, you will lose- ala Mahomes in last years SB.

So combine a bad Pass Pro line, with a less than pedestrian WR corps, with a QB who is incapable of making a hot read let alone throwing on time, combine all that with an obtuse overly dogmatic coach, well combine all of that and you get kick ass drinks on the beach while a bunch of your buddies start battling for the Lombardi this weekend.


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