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Brissett signs 2 year $30 million extension
$20 million guaranteed. Wow.
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Nice first post... Workhorse.. I believe that name goes way back? From another message board. |
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Depending on the cap hit and potential dead cap money, it certainly is for the Colts.
I’m not sure if it is for Jacoby. |
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For perspective, Mike Glennon got 3/$45MM from the Bears two years ago, then the Bears drafted Trubisky. Colts could take a similar path. This extension doesn’t prohibit any direction they decide to take. |
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Considering I feel Brissett is a Prescott type player, And Dak wants $40 frieken mil now...I'd say this is a bargain.
Granted many will point out Brissett hasn't 'earned' starting $ yet..but the fact is, he is the starter, and should be getting more that what he was being paid. Next year, Luck's contract will be basically void, (i think about 6.5 mil of signing bonus is paid, and that's it) So It's not like Indy is losing $$ in this deal in any way. They'll still have more cap space next year than this year..lol. |
Clearly they believe in him and Reich calling him a top 20 QB was not him just BSing. With the CAP space we have I am good with this, not sure he can really be a franchise QB, but I will trust Reich and Ballard on this.
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Surprises me they didn't just give him the year to play it out and then see if he deserves an extension
But then when you sign your back up $4 million a year and 9 guaranteed, that could easily have become an issue as the year went on |
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Irsay and Ballard are not messing around. They just spent a bunch of money to solidify the QB position.
They said this wasnt a lost season. Nice to see no half measures |
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Heh I say that and we have like 60 million in the bank. I can see us grabbing a QB like a Jordan Love in next draft and let him develop under Brisset. |
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A bit rich for my blood. I would have just assumed wait to see how he does before talking extension with him, given his limited track record (he threw only 4 passes all last year). However, listening to some of your comments I can see the rationale for doing it now I guess. That said, as we sit here today, I would have pegged his value on a new two-year contract at about $8-10 million per, particularly since we already had him locked in at $2-3 million this year.
But the Colts certainly know him better than I do, and I guess I could look at it as a positive that they like him enough to pay him that much (there’s also the lingering issue that we don’t know all the contract details yet, specifically what the $20 million is guaranteed against). |
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-Foles got $22MM/year from the Jags to start -Mike Glennon got $15MM/year from the Bears before they drafted Trubisky $15MM is the going rate for a low end starter. |
To me it is a great move because of the circumstances this team finds itself in. Whatever you think about Luck retiring, it had to be at some level a gut punch to this team. By giving Jacoby this contract (which they can easily afford) they get rid of a possible distraction if Brissett does as well as they think he will (ie. the starting qb making less than a ton of guys on the team including his backup), they put a stamp on the Luck era being over, and they 'put their money where their mouth was' thus doing everything in their power to put the focus on this season and winning it all. It sends a message that this regime knows how to take care of it's players (Jacoby has shown that he is all about the team the way he handled Luck's absence and Luck coming back-I'm assuming the Colts rewarded him for that among other things), should be of help in upping the emotional state of the team and seems to me at least to be a move of a front office that doesn't panic and know what in the hell they are doing.
One last thing about Ballard. Brissett for Dorsett is beginning to have the look of a pretty good trade isn't it? |
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If we just added another year at the low end starter rate you mentioned of $15M I probably wouldn't complain too much. |
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We are not locked in long term. If he is playing at a high level then we get him relativley cheap next year. If not or if they see him as a stop gap, then draft someone and the new QB plays behind brisset for a year. |
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Look, I know there's this celebratory attitude around here and in the media that they’ve signed Brissett to this deal, but I don’t really get it. What has Brissett done so far to make you think that he’s deserving of a $30M contract? I mean, if you read what everyone was saying here during the preseason, Brissett is not a very good QB. Really - take a minute and go back and read the commentary about Brissett PRIOR to Luck’s retirement, and tell me why we should be excited to see the team commit so much to him. I'll help you get started, here are a couple gems I found with just a quick search: Here's GBB on Brissett: Quote:
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The one thing he has going for him is that he seems to have the confidence of the Colts management, so blind faith in management might justify the excitement, but little else. |
He not only has the confidence of the Colts management but the players as well. There wasnt anyone available at this point. I think Ballard did the right thing.
I dont think Brissett is that good either. Can he play good enough to rally a team that has the talent and a team that will rally around him? I hope so and I think so. |
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From the teams perspective, it’s a no brainer. |
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Perhaps a small portion of this move was to ignite some kind of perception equals reality adage ........ pay him like a good quarterback, make him feel like he's a good quarterback, and perhaps it will contribute toward him playing like a good quarterback. Obviously that wouldn't work with somebody like Curtis Painter or Scott Tolzien, but with somebody who has already shown that he has above-average ability/potential at the NFL level like Brissett has, it may have an impact (however nominal.) o |
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I dont see anyone (or many) here celebrating it. But for our current situation it makes some sense to have brissett for two years. He knows the system. He will get us through this year and hopefully help the transition next year to a long term solution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Maybe over simplifying, but you cant bring in Hoyer and pay him 4 million a year and they pay brissett 2 million to start ahead of him.
Such a move would undermine the Ballard culture that he is thus far maintaining in a very consistent way. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk |
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It’s more about not paying the backup more than the starter, and solidifying the spot for at least next year. |
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Now a decision has to be made in two years instead of one long term. I don't have a problem with that they did, but I don't see it saving them any money on the long term. Whether it be next year or the year after, you have to eventually decide is he deserves to be paid like a typical starter in the league, which is way more than $15 million a year, more likely $30 million a year now for a decent one. If they franchise him in the 3rd year its hard telling how much money that will be when that comes up. That may not be a realistic option. Its an average of the top 5 player salaries at the position over the past 5 years. Its is $25 million a year right now for a QB and is most assuredly going up in the next few years, probably to at least $30 million. Plus he could choose to sit out, create another bad situation for the team at QB if their is a prolonged negotiation. The last thing this team needs is more unknowns at QB due to a salary dispute. So the idea they can just franchise tag him for a year is questionable at best |
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