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Spike 08-14-2020 07:56 PM

Don't vote for Biden and Kamala Harris.
 
If you love your constitutional rights don't vote for these two clowns, they will take them away. Just two fucking idiots that will destroy America. I am a gun owner and they won't take them away from me, as long as I am still alive.

Oh yeah, fuck CNN, the View and MSNCB.

Maniac 08-14-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165905)
If you love your constitutional rights don't vote for these two clowns, they will take them away. Just two fucking idiots that will destroy America. I am a gun owner and they won't take them away from me, as long as I am still alive.

Oh yeah, fuck CNN, the View and MSNCB.

Trump has been shitting on your constitutional rights since taking office, but you don't seem to mind that.

BTW, the whole "taking your guns" thing is fear based propaganda. Biden is on record saying he supports the 2nd ammendment. Quit believing all the propaganda.

Trump is a con man. You're literally falling for a con if you believe all the bullshit and lies coming out of that dude's mouth and twitter account.

Spike 08-14-2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165909)
Trump has been shitting on your constitutional rights since taking office, but you don't seem to mind that.

BTW, the whole "taking your guns" thing is fear based propaganda. Biden is on record saying he supports the 2nd ammendment. Quit believing all the propaganda.

Trump is a con man. You're literally falling for a con if you believe all the bullshit and lies coming out of that dude's mouth and twitter account.

Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.

Spike 08-14-2020 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165909)
Trump has been shitting on your constitutional rights since taking office, but you don't seem to mind that.

BTW, the whole "taking your guns" thing is fear based propaganda. Biden is on record saying he supports the 2nd ammendment. Quit believing all the propaganda.

Trump is a con man. You're literally falling for a con if you believe all the bullshit and lies coming out of that dude's mouth and twitter account.

Serious question, how has Trump been shitting on my constitutional rights? Give me examples please.

Spike 08-14-2020 11:03 PM

Crickets, I thought so. Anybody who supports the left needs to move to Cuba. Look at Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NY and California. All run by democrats and those places are garbage. Luckily I live in a city in California that is conservative.

Maniac 08-14-2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165913)
Crickets, I thought so. Anybody who supports the left needs to move to Cuba. Look at Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NY and California. All run by democrats and those places are garbage. Luckily I live in a city in California that is conservative.

LOL Are you serious? You post and immediately expect me to respond as soon as you hit "submit"? You can't be serious.

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165911)
Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.

He isn't. The NRA is not the 2nd amendment. The NRA and it's shady russian money and influence can go away and it won't have any effect on us owning guns at all.

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165912)
Serious question, how has Trump been shitting on my constitutional rights? Give me examples please.

really quick examples...

He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.

He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.

He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.

The list goes on and on and on. He is a liar and a con man. You're getting suckered by someone who doesn't give two shits about you and your rights. He just says a few key phrases to instill fear like the whole "taking away your guns" lie. Stop falling for the lies.

This is the last post I'm going to make on this, because I'm quite sure that no matter what I post, you're not going to believe it.

Oldcolt 08-15-2020 01:10 AM

Why is this on a Colts board?

Spike 08-15-2020 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 165916)
Why is this on a Colts board?

I don't know. I got drunk and felt like posting here. What else is there to talk about now? But you are right, wrong platform for politics. Smitty or Puck can delete this thread if they wish to.

Spike 08-15-2020 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165914)
LOL Are you serious? You post and immediately expect me to respond as soon as you hit "submit"? You can't be serious.



He isn't. The NRA is not the 2nd amendment. The NRA and it's shady russian money and influence can go away and it won't have any effect on us owning guns at all.



really quick examples...

He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.

He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.

He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.

The list goes on and on and on. He is a liar and a con man. You're getting suckered by someone who doesn't give two shits about you and your rights. He just says a few key phrases to instill fear like the whole "taking away your guns" lie. Stop falling for the lies.

This is the last post I'm going to make on this, because I'm quite sure that no matter what I post, you're not going to believe it.

I don't agree with everything Trump says or tweets. Is he a liar and a con man, hell yes he is. But what politician isn't?

Do you really think the democrats give two shits about you?????

I live in California and it is run by democrats. Newsome, Waters, Harris, Pelosi etc... SF use to be a great city and now there is shit on the sidewalks.

I only voted for Trump because I hated that corrupt POS Hillary. I personally don't trust anyone in the political arena. The only one I know who I can trust is myself. I just don't like the leftist agenda. Maybe I am just stupid and my wife would probably agree with you, well, not probably, she would definitely agree with you all.

Look Maniac, I only want what is best for this country and I am sure you feel the same way. Is Trump perfect, hell no he's not. He's just better than some of the democrats running against him. That's my final word on the subject.

Dam8610 08-15-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165911)
Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.

Biden doesn't have to go after the NRA, the New York AG is doing a fine job shutting them down without Biden's help.

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165912)
Serious question, how has Trump been shitting on my constitutional rights? Give me examples please.

That amendment right above the second one. You know, the first amendment. Trump has shat all over that.

Ironshaft 08-15-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165914)
He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.

Not to nitpick, but the question was how Trump has trampled our Constitutional rights. Those rights laid out in the Constitution and through Amendment to that Constitution.

You have pointed out something that you believe is happening (assuming you are not a prosecuting attorney in a case against the President) that would be illegal for the President to engage in.

That is not a trampling of any citizen right as stated in the Constitution or Amendments. That is illegal activity (if proven) by a Presidential administration.

Those are two very different things.

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165914)
He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.

Okay, he said that. Can you please point me to the link that shows a signed Executive Directive ordering a state Governor to open their economy, please? What? He did not sign an Executive Directive ordering a state to open?

Sorry, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights. Trump can say whatever he wants, even from the press room of the White House. It makes for bad optics and bad politics but it is not illegal nor does it actually have ANY effect until he signs an official order directive or bill making it into a law, it is just talk.

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 165914)
He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.

Sorry, a twitter post is not an attempt to "delay" the election. Again, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights.

===

I don't like Trump the man. I think he sucks.

However, honestly, the SIGNED policies, directives and laws that have come out of his White House have been much more pleasing to me than I ever thought a lifelong NY liberal would ever do.

But, be honest about his faults. He has not taken a single Constitutionally granted right away from a single U.S. citizen during his Presidency.

However, Biden and Harris have both said time and time again that they plan on limiting the right to own firearms which is directly counter to what the Constitution states is a citizen right that "shall not be infringed."

11 May 2019: Former Vice President Joe Biden admitted that the “Second Amendment exists” but stressed during his speech in New Hampshire on Tuesday that it does not say everyone is “entitled” to own a gun.

Sorry Maniac, but if you would point out not generalities of issues you don't like about the President but instead show an actual limiting of a Constitutional right, I would love to hear it.

TheMugwump 08-15-2020 04:40 PM

The right to peaceably assemble comes to mind.

You know, having stormtroopers fire tear gas and rubber bullets at folks exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

But other than that, yeah, he's perfectly harmless...

JAFF 08-15-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165911)
Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.

Really? When?

Spike 08-15-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 165947)
Really? When?

Biden has stated he wants a limit on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYoi5gRSMg

I live in California who has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation, but it looks like the NRA won a court battle here.

https://twitter.com/NRA/status/12943...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Dam8610 08-15-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 165938)
But, be honest about his faults. He has not taken a single Constitutionally granted right away from a single U.S. citizen during his Presidency.

He had peaceful protestors removed from the streets by unidentified federal agents in Portland. That is a direct violation of those protestors' first amendment rights.

rm1369 08-15-2020 09:48 PM

Let me ask, how can Biden and Harris trample on constitutional rights? They would be checked by the courts just as any president would be. It comes down to YOUR view what is a constitutional right. All rights have limits. There are limits on the 2nd amendment that constitutional scholars disagree on. Hell, Supreme Court judges disagree on them. Biden can not do away with the 2nd amendment. He can chip around the fringes at areas some think are protected and others think aren’t. But any insinuation he will write an executive order that would do away with it is complete and utter BS. And if he tried it would be quickly struck down in the courts.

As to Trump, he has infringed on the constitution in plenty of ways in many people’s opinions. Including the courts. His Muslim ban? Struck down as initially written. His attempt to meddle with the census? Currently rejected as done. He won on his side stepping the constitution by declaring an emergency for his wall funding. I personally can’t wait for Democrats to do the same when in power. Jesus fucking Christ, he’s blatantly asked foreign governments to interfere in our elections. But I suppose that doesn’t matter as long as he supports the unrestricted interpretation of the 2nd amendment. Well, except his bump stock ban. Does that make him guilty of trampling on, what to you seems to be, the only important part of the constitution?

HoosierinFL 08-15-2020 10:35 PM

Right because all those times democrats were president or controlled some part of the senate or house, they totally tried taking away rights and guns. Where do you get this nonsense that is repeated every time an election comes around. Oh don’t vote for the Dems they’ll take away all your rights. This time I mean it not like last time.

Chromeburn 08-15-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165905)
If you love your constitutional rights don't vote for these two clowns, they will take them away. Just two fucking idiots that will destroy America. I am a gun owner and they won't take them away from me, as long as I am still alive.

Oh yeah, fuck CNN, the View and MSNCB.

I remember being at my buddy’s place and he was showing me his guns. There was a pamphlet on a table next to the rack and I picked it up. It talked about how fema was building camps to house gun owners and they were in the works to round up gun owners and take away all the guns. He told me all about it and how they were going to take everyone’s guns away. That was about 20 years ago or so. Sure is taking a long time to build those camps. Turns out the pamphlets were put out by one of the gun companies.

Seems every time there is a dem president this pops up. Gonna take away your guns. Suddenly gun sales skyrocket. Weird, almost like they are using fear mongering to manipulate people into buying more guns.

Oh yeah fuck Fox News, and fuck the view too.

Dam8610 08-16-2020 12:47 AM

I really hope the New York AG's efforts work, the NRA is dissolved, their funds have to go to real charities actually doing good work, and Wayne LaPierre is permanently barred from serving on any board. That should stop the second amendment nonsense for a while.

JAFF 08-16-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165949)
Biden has stated he wants a limit on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYoi5gRSMg

I live in California who has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation, but it looks like the NRA won a court battle here.

https://twitter.com/NRA/status/12943...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

They passed a law so you can only kill 10 people and then reload. How is that restricting your gun ownership?

There are more guns in this country than there are people. I really do believe there’s no way to get rid of them. This is what the NRA has done, ramping up false fear.

JAFF 08-16-2020 09:08 AM

Oh and btw, anyone who has paid dues to the NRA, should be furious how that money has been spent.

The NY AG is going after them for RICO statutes, like the mob and how they launder money.

The least they could do With that money is give you a gift when you join like a universal gun mount for your lawn tractor, or a gun cozy for your rocket launcher

Chromeburn 08-16-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 165969)
Oh and btw, anyone who has paid dues to the NRA, should be furious how that money has been spent.

The NY AG is going after them for RICO statutes, like the mob and how they launder money.

The least they could do With that money is give you a gift when you join like a universal gun mount for your lawn tractor, or a gun cozy for your rocket launcher

What! No this is an attack on FREEDOM! Don’t worry they will just say “___________ is gonna take all the guns!” Then the bucks will roll in again and it’s back to bitches and champagne on the Lear jet. Suckers.

Dam8610 08-16-2020 10:18 AM

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020...t-dissolve-nra

I know some of you are NRA members, did you sign on to pay for Wayne LaPierre and his friends and family to take exorbitant luxury trips on the NRA's dime? Or give themselves lucrative "consulting" contracts?

Chromeburn 08-16-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 165979)
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020...t-dissolve-nra

I know some of you are NRA members, did you sign on to pay for Wayne LaPierre and his friends and family to take exorbitant luxury trips on the NRA's dime? Or give themselves lucrative "consulting" contracts?

This is a problem with charities and non profits in general I think. Some are great, some spend all their money trying to get more money, and some are just outright corrupt like the NRA.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...s&overallrtg=4

Is a good site to determine who spends funds on their cause and not fundraisers or salaries.

JAFF 08-16-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 165970)
What! No this is an attack on FREEDOM! Don’t worry they will just say “___________ is gonna take all the guns!” Then the bucks will roll in again and it’s back to bitches and champagne on the Lear jet. Suckers.

The gun companies never had it so good with Obama. They ramped up the fear, and made money hand over fist. With Trump, a couple have come close to bankruptcy. Funny world

Chromeburn 08-17-2020 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 166015)
The gun companies never had it so good with Obama. They ramped up the fear, and made money hand over fist. With Trump, a couple have come close to bankruptcy. Funny world

Well you think about it, a gun is a fairly simple mechanism, and properly taken care of can last a really long time. Also how many do you really need? The market is so flooded with them also, go to a gun show and you can pick up one cheap. So you got a product that lasts a long time With care, is plentiful, and you only need at most one? Two? For the average citizen. So yeah, probably hard to maintain high sales.

So really the best method is to stir up the base to generate sales. And what better method than to say the big bad govt is gonna kick in your door and take them. Gets the ole freedom blood pumping. Guys start cranking out lines from Rambo. I bet secretly the gun companies are hoping Biden wins simply because it should drive up sales. I’m sure they are donating to his campaign. Well most corporations donate to both campaigns. Gotta hedge your bets.

Spike 08-17-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 165965)
They passed a law so you can only kill 10 people and then reload. How is that restricting your gun ownership?

There are more guns in this country than there are people. I really do believe there’s no way to get rid of them. This is what the NRA has done, ramping up false fear.

I don't want any politician telling me how many rounds per magazine I can have, especially with all the nut jobs going around looting and destroying. I know a lot of you don't agree with me and that's fine.

Spike 08-17-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 165979)
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020...t-dissolve-nra

I know some of you are NRA members, did you sign on to pay for Wayne LaPierre and his friends and family to take exorbitant luxury trips on the NRA's dime? Or give themselves lucrative "consulting" contracts?

.

LaPierre should be jailed. What a POS. Not making excuses for his sorry ass, but he is really no different than most politicians such as the Clintons. All of these corrupt assholes need to be put in prison.

Hoopsdoc 08-18-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 165951)
He had peaceful protestors removed from the streets by unidentified federal agents in Portland. That is a direct violation of those protestors' first amendment rights.

Sorry, but this is incorrect. All of the agents in Portland were clearly identified.

JAFF 08-18-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 166081)
I don't want any politician telling me how many rounds per magazine I can have, especially with all the nut jobs going around looting and destroying. I know a lot of you don't agree with me and that's fine.

So how many times have you been looted?

Dam8610 08-19-2020 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 166139)
Sorry, but this is incorrect. All of the agents in Portland were clearly identified.

Marked and identified are two different things. They were marked by the uniforms they wore, but they did not provide identification. Regardless, the important point there was that the protestors' first amendment rights were stripped by these federal agents.

Racehorse 08-19-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 166186)
Marked and identified are two different things. They were marked by the uniforms they wore, but they did not provide identification. Regardless, the important point there was that the protestors' first amendment rights were stripped by these federal agents.

Yes, Trump is denying the First Amendment right to exercise their religion by shutting down churches for months. Wait, that was the democrat governors.

rcubed 08-19-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 166191)
Yes, Trump is denying the First Amendment right to exercise their religion by shutting down churches for months. Wait, that was the democrat governors.

gathering in groups while in the midst of a highly contagious viral outbreak is stupid. people can still worship their gods, just be smarter about it by not gathering.

omahacolt 08-19-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165905)
If you love your constitutional rights don't vote for these two clowns, they will take them away. Just two fucking idiots that will destroy America. I am a gun owner and they won't take them away from me, as long as I am still alive.

Oh yeah, fuck CNN, the View and MSNCB.

Jesus Christ. This same fucking shit was said about Obama. Nothing happened. You kept your guns.

Voting for trump and claiming it has anything to do with the constitution is fucking insane. Trump completely shit on the constitution for 4 years now

What an idiot

omahacolt 08-19-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 165949)
Biden has stated he wants a limit on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYoi5gRSMg

I live in California who has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation, but it looks like the NRA won a court battle here.

https://twitter.com/NRA/status/12943...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Trump banned bump stocks. How is that for you gun lovers?

He also said “I will take the guns and worry about due process later”

omahacolt 08-19-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 166081)
I don't want any politician telling me how many rounds per magazine I can have, especially with all the nut jobs going around looting and destroying. I know a lot of you don't agree with me and that's fine.

Lol what a hypocrite

JAFF 08-19-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 166191)
Yes, Trump is denying the First Amendment right to exercise their religion by shutting down churches for months. Wait, that was the democrat governors.

They may have shut the doors to churches, they didnt stop people from praying. There are numerous cases of large infections due to church attendance with or without masks.

Its the job of health officials to use sensible practices to slow or stop the spread of the virus to protect all the citizens. How do close sports, schools and stores but allow church gatherings. This is rendering to Caesar what is Caesars.

Spike 08-19-2020 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 166266)
They may have shut the doors to churches, they didnt stop people from praying. There are numerous cases of large infections due to church attendance with or without masks.

Its the job of health officials to use sensible practices to slow or stop the spread of the virus to protect all the citizens. How do close sports, schools and stores but allow church gatherings. This is rendering to Caesar what is Caesars.

And yet, some of the democrats see no problem in thousands of protesters getting together.

Spike 08-19-2020 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 166212)
Jesus Christ. This same fucking shit was said about Obama. Nothing happened. You kept your guns.

Voting for trump and claiming it has anything to do with the constitution is fucking insane. Trump completely shit on the constitution for 4 years now

What an idiot

Trump hasn't shit on our constitutional rights.

But here you go again Omaha, calling people names like you are still in junior high school. When are you going to grow the fuck up? Many people have left this board because you constantly attacked them. Don't call me a fucking idiot for my beliefs. If you disagree with my posts, fine. But name calling is so damn childish.

Spike 08-20-2020 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 166211)
gathering in groups while in the midst of a highly contagious viral outbreak is stupid. people can still worship their gods, just be smarter about it by not gathering.

Yeah, tell that to the thousands of protesters. Democrats and the media are crickets regarding this. Damn, I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left.


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