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Dam8610 05-07-2020 04:03 PM

2020 Draft Class Scouting Reports
 
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WR Michael Pittman Jr. USC

Strengths
Has a great combination of size and athleticism for a WR. Uses size to make high point catches and win 50/50 balls frequently, and makes himself a deep threat as a result. Catches the ball with his hands and drops are very rare. Runs routes well with sharp cuts that help him to lose coverage. Has deceptive speed that he can occasionally use to break a long play. Will work back to his QB when in trouble and tries to provide an outlet in those situations. Fights for the football whenever it is thrown his way. Competes on every down, always plays at full speed, doesn't take plays off. Excellent blocker from the WR position.

Weaknesses
Does not have elite speed and won't run away from many DBs. Gets caught pushing off too often and was flagged for OPI several times last season. Needs to work on body control and field awareness to be able to make boundary catches more frequently. About one third of his yardage and TD production came in 2 games against Utah and Colorado.

Notes
Team captain for USC. Second team All-American. First team All-PAC 12. Son of former NFL RB Michael Pittman.

NFL Player Comparison
Mike Evans

YDFL Commish 05-07-2020 05:08 PM

I was going to post today...floor Alshon Jefferey, ceiling Mike Evans/Vincent Jackson?

Dam8610 05-07-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 160938)
I was going to post today...floor Alshon Jefferey, ceiling Mike Evans/Vincent Jackson?

My player comps are always ceilings. I went with Evans because their builds and physical testing are remarkably similar and it felt less lazy than the Vincent Jackson comparison, which I feel like people are saying just because they're both big bodies and Rivers threw to Jackson and Reich coached him. I wanted to give a different name.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 05-07-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 160943)
it felt less lazy than the Vincent Jackson comparison, which I feel like people are saying just because they're both big bodies and Rivers threw to Jackson and Reich coached him.


Are you calling Ballard lazy with his comps? :D


Vincent Jackson is the comp that Ballard made when he was describing Pittman to Irsay on the "With the Next Pick" series. That is probably another reason why you see so many people making that particular comparison.....they are repeating Ballard.

Dam8610 05-07-2020 09:15 PM

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RB Johnathan Taylor Wisconsin

Strengths
One cut, north south runner who will fight for every possible yard. Has an excellent stiff arm and uses it to great effect to extend runs. Has the ability to run over a DB, or use a juke to get a step on him. Has breakaway speed, once he gets even with a defender, he's gone. Patient runner who will typically allow his blocks to develop in front of him before charging through the hole. Has good vision and is constantly searching for a hole to open. Isn't afraid to dance in the backfield a bit to create a lane, but also isn't afraid to run full steam ahead to pick up 2-3 yards when it's not there. Does well as a receiver out of the backfield, and has surprised defenses with this aspect of his game. Willing blocker in pass protection, and usually does well at it.

Weaknesses
Has a lot of mileage on him already coming into the NFL with 926 carries in 3 seasons at Wisconsin. Ball security is frequently an issue, and one he will need to improve at the NFL level. Dropped some catchable balls in the flat as a receiver. Could benefit from processing a little more at times when he charges into the line to try to make a positive play.

Notes
Team Captain at Wisconsin. Unanimous First Team All-American in 2018 and 2019. Doak Walker award winner in 2018 and 2019.

NFL Player Comparison
Arian Foster (with breakaway speed)

Dam8610 05-07-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 160949)
Are you calling Ballard lazy with his comps? :D


Vincent Jackson is the comp that Ballard made when he was describing Pittman to Irsay on the "With the Next Pick" series. That is probably another reason why you see so many people making that particular comparison.....they are repeating Ballard.

Jackson is the comp the Colts front office would make because they are more familiar with him than Evans. The people who are just repeating it are being lazy. Plus, I don't like using the same player comp as everyone else.

Pez 05-08-2020 11:44 AM

Here's 11 mins of highlights on our draft picks.... pittman and taylor look awesome.

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rcubed 05-08-2020 12:42 PM

Looked like pittman was under thrown on all those highlights.


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Chromeburn 05-08-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 160938)
I was going to post today...floor Alshon Jefferey, ceiling Mike Evans/Vincent Jackson?

I would take both of those in a heartbeat from a 2nd round pick. Best thing I like are his hands. He rarely drops the ball.

Dam8610 05-09-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 161031)
I would take both of those in a heartbeat from a 2nd round pick. Best thing I like are his hands. He rarely drops the ball.

Brett Kollman said several times that Pittman would be WR2 or WR3 in most drafts and an easy pick in the 20s.

Pez 05-10-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 161018)
Looked like pittman was under thrown on all those highlights.


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I agree, highlights are not a great guide to a player, but I think despite the underthrows he showed serious toughness multiple times to go up and get it. He's an exciting player.

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Dam8610 05-14-2020 01:10 AM

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S Julian Blackmon Utah

Strengths
Former CB with good coverage skills in man and short zones. Shows coverage ability to run with and cover backs, tight ends, and slot receivers. Can sometimes bait a QB into a bad throw in short zones. Displays excellent closing speed in the quick game and has a knack for creating negative plays against screens, swing passes, and mesh. Willing tackler who shows no fear in run support and can both deliver punishing blows or use good wrap up technique. Usually is an excellent tackler in the open field and rarely allows a ballcarrier to beat him in a one on one situation. Was playing an excellent game in PAC 12 Championship vs. Oregon prior to ACL injury, and his absence clearly made a difference once he left.

Weaknesses
Needs to improve in deep coverage. Was used a lot as high safety but struggled to close on deep half or deep third assignments. Displayed poor recovery speed consistently, play was usually over if the receiver got a step on him. Seems to not trust his reads in deep coverage. Poor game vs. USC, probably his worst tape. Tore ACL vs. Oregon in PAC 12 Championship.

Notes
Second Team All-American, First Team All-PAC 12, One of 13 players on team's "leadership council"

NFL Player Comparison
Vonn Bell

Dam8610 05-14-2020 10:16 PM

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QB Jacob Eason Washington

Strengths
Has the arm strength to make any NFL level throw, and some throws only a handful of QBs in the NFL can make. Routinely fits balls into very tight windows. Ball placement is exactly what it should be on most throws, and many drops disguise solid accuracy in completion percentage. Regularly hits his receivers in stride, allowing them a better opportunity to create RAC yardage. Deep ball placement and accuracy is usually excellent. Knows how to put loft into his deep throws and place the ball where only his receiver can get it. Occassionally displays sneaky athleticism and ability to extend a play and turn a broken play into a positive one. Always keeps his eyes downfield even in the face of pressure. Can use his eyes to manipulate defenders into creating open throwing lanes. Unafraid to stand in and take the big hit to deliver the ball where it needs to be. Excellent at converting short yardage third downs on QB sneaks, taking full advantage of his size. Give him a clean pocket and he'll pick apart any defense. Played in a similar style of offense at Washington to the Colts offense, so learning curve may not be as steep.

Weaknesses
Needs to put in a lot of work in the film room. Ability to read defenses pre-snap and post-snap is not NFL ready and must improve. Decision making is not NFL ready and must improve. At times puts too much confidence in his arm and makes throws to receivers who aren't open and are double or triple covered. At other times is too quick to take the checkdown and misses an opportunity for a big play. Has a tendency at times of making decision pre-snap on who the ball is going to and locking in on that receiver instead of going through progressions. Sense for pressure is not NFL ready and needs to improve, leading to unnecessary sacks sometimes and an unnecessarily quick trigger at other times. Throws short and medium throws that should be touch throws as fastballs too often. Situational awareness must improve. Needs to know when to take an incompletion instead of trying to do too much and creating a negative play for the offense. Ideally would be a little more concerned with not losing the ball on giveaways.

Notes
Transferred from Georgia after losing starting job to Jake Fromm in 2017. Son of former Notre Dame WR Tony Eason.

NFL Player Comparison
Ben Roethlisberger

Dam8610 05-18-2020 11:24 PM

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OG Danny Pinter Ball State

Strengths
Athleticism stands out from RT position. Displays good kick slide ability and frequently forced speed rushers to run the arc, providing his QB with a clean pocket. Keeps his head on a swivel looking for blocks in the run game and pass game. Rarely misses assignments in pass protection, and usually makes the correct read when switching blocks, and effectively blocked two players frequently as a result. Displays good footwork and recovery ability in pass protection and shows the ability to recover and win a snap when initially overwhelmed. Finishes blocks in the run game. High effort player who always plays to the whistle. Excels at pulling and blocking effectively in the run game at the second level where his athleticism is on display. Converted tight end who shows some receiving ability. Did not look overmatched against NFL caliber competition against Notre Dame (2018) or NC State (2019). Could provide value as a versatile backup, athleticism indicates he could play guard or tackle in a backup capacity.

Weaknesses
Upper half technique needs a lot of work. Needs to extend arms and punch into rushers instead of allowing them to use their hands and arms against him. Consistently tries to catch the pass rush instead of meeting the rush forcefully. Was beat by both speed and power as a pass protector on occasion, but only when the rusher used good hand and arm technique against him. Held his ground in the run game, but struggled to gain ground against defenders. Occasionally would be too overzealous in space and miss a block trying to get to it too quickly.

Notes
Team Captain. Was named First Team All-MAC in 2019 and Ball State's Most Outstanding Player.

NFL Player Comparison
Jake Scott

Ironshaft 05-19-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 161524)
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OG Danny Pinter Ball State

Strengths
Athleticism stands out from RT position. Displays good kick slide ability and frequently forced speed rushers to run the arc, providing his QB with a clean pocket. Keeps his head on a swivel looking for blocks in the run game and pass game. Rarely misses assignments in pass protection, and usually makes the correct read when switching blocks, and effectively blocked two players frequently as a result. Displays good footwork and recovery ability in pass protection and shows the ability to recover and win a snap when initially overwhelmed. Finishes blocks in the run game. High effort player who always plays to the whistle. Excels at pulling and blocking effectively in the run game at the second level where his athleticism is on display. Converted tight end who shows some receiving ability. Did not look overmatched against NFL caliber competition against Notre Dame (2018) or NC State (2019). Could provide value as a versatile backup, athleticism indicates he could play guard or tackle in a backup capacity.

Weaknesses
Upper half technique needs a lot of work. Needs to extend arms and punch into rushers instead of allowing them to use their hands and arms against him. Consistently tries to catch the pass rush instead of meeting the rush forcefully. Was beat by both speed and power as a pass protector on occasion, but only when the rusher used good hand and arm technique against him. Held his ground in the run game, but struggled to gain ground against defenders. Occasionally would be too overzealous in space and miss a block trying to get to it too quickly.

Notes
Team Captain. Was named First Team All-MAC in 2019 and Ball State's Most Outstanding Player.

NFL Player Comparison
Jake Scott

Crud, I loved Jake Scott's play when he was a starter for the Colts. That would be a great ceiling for him to hit.

If Pinter can turn into that level of a starter after he irons out his play strength deficiencies and adjusts to the higher level of play, that would be a fantastic find in the 4th round.

IndyNorm 05-19-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 161540)
Crud, I loved Jake Scott's play when he was a starter for the Colts. That would be a great ceiling for him to hit.

If Pinter can turn into that level of a starter after he irons out his play strength deficiencies and adjusts to the higher level of play, that would be a fantastic find in the 4th round.

5th round*, and agreed on if he ends up being at the same level as Scott then he will have been a great find.

Pez 05-20-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 161559)
5th round*, and agreed on if he ends up being at the same level as Scott then he will have been a great find.

I watched highlights (vs film) on Pinter and he seemed pretty legit. I would not be surprised if around mid season he is the starter over Glowinski.


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