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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2020 12:07 PM

Colts releasing Pierre Desir
 
Per Rapoport:


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241393881364791298

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Source: The #Colts are releasing Pierre Desir.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241394639229386752

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The #Colts owed Pierre Desir almost $7M this year and have no dead money against the cap. But they did extend him just last year, paying him $9M in 2019. Now, he’s a free agent.

Luck4Reich 03-21-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 157210)

Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?

Racehorse 03-21-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157211)
Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?

That is the only way this makes sense. I mean, we had $45M in cap. Maybe they asked for a redo and he balked. Someone will snatch him up.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157211)
Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?


Just added the second tweet from Rapoport.

Looks like it results in $6.85MM in cap savings (with no dead money) according to the website Overthecap.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 157212)
That is the only way this makes sense. I mean, we had $45M in cap. Maybe they asked for a redo and he balked. Someone will snatch him up.


$45MM doesn't include the Rivers signing. It was closer to $20MM after deducting the Rivers contract and prior to this move.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2020 12:27 PM

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...98332804812801

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Desir was not expecting this move, I can tell you that.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1241394637308338176

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Had a disappointing 2019. Battled injuries throughout.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1241396853624709120

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Colts release Pierre Desir.

Indy's cornerbacks at the moment:
— Kenny Moore
— Rock Ya-Sin
— Marvell Tell
— Quincy Wilson

Cutting Desir was a financial move, I'm told, but team hasn't ruled out bringing him back if opportunity presents itself.

rcubed 03-21-2020 12:33 PM

Weird move. Do we really need the cap space? Targeting another bigish signing?

Goes a bit against what ballard used to preach in terms of competition, play well, get paid. Maybe they weren’t happy enough with his play last year.


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ChoppedWood 03-21-2020 01:00 PM

I left for a long time just fed up with the overall NFL product in general, not necessarily anything happening with the shoe. Of course now I am parched and my stomach rumbles with hunger pains...

Consider me puzzled... Desir can play the position, maybe it is a question about chronic injury that will limit him going forward... otherwise I don't get it...



I don't like the Rivers move, why, who the F is he going to throw to? I get the whole "as recently as 2018 he was in the MVP hunt late into the season", but man- we got NOTHING going at WR for him to work with this year...

I love Buckner, should free up Darius to get back to running around smacking people downhill... and listening to him on the radio, I think that dude is going to come in here looking to prove he may be 1A to Donald's 1 this year but looking to take the mantle the following year.

YDFL Commish 03-21-2020 01:20 PM

Any good FA CB"s left? I doubt it. I guess we will draft another CB or two and hope they play well.

apballin 03-21-2020 01:43 PM

Yeah I didn’t see this coming either, perhaps not as valuable with Hopkins gone

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 157223)
Any good FA CB"s left? I doubt it.

Free agent CB's:

-Logan Ryan
-Pierre Desir
-Nickell Robey-Coleman
-Ronald Darby
-Jimmy Smith
-Rashaan Melvin
-Prince Amukamara
-Bashaud Breeland
-Trumaine Johnson
-P.J. Williams
-Jason Verrett
-Morris Claiborne
-Daryl Worley
-Johnathan Joseph
-Brandon Carr

Colt Classic 03-21-2020 03:53 PM

no thanks to that list--look draftward.

Oldcolt 03-21-2020 05:11 PM

Ballard must have more faith in Tell/Wilson than most folks do.

Oldcolt 03-21-2020 05:15 PM

Reading where this has to do with cap savings. WTF? Does Ballard have his eye on another big time free agent defensive lineman?

Maniac 03-21-2020 05:54 PM

Hope this doesn't come back to bite us.

Puck 03-21-2020 06:56 PM

I think he goes CB early in the draft

Discflinger 03-21-2020 07:58 PM

There is a ton of rollover, 40 mil?, from last year that we won’t have next year. I doubt we make anymore big splashes unless JB is traded/cut.

Thorgrim 03-21-2020 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 157270)
I think he goes CB early in the draft

I hope he didn’t create an unnecessary need. Our early picks were earmarked for WR and OL or QB I had hoped.

YDFL Commish 03-22-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 157229)
Free agent CB's:

-Logan Ryan
-Pierre Desir
-Nickell Robey-Coleman
-Ronald Darby
-Jimmy Smith
-Rashaan Melvin
-Prince Amukamara
-Bashaud Breeland
-Trumaine Johnson
-P.J. Williams
-Jason Verrett
-Morris Claiborne
-Daryl Worley
-Johnathan Joseph
-Brandon Carr

If the mandate is win now, wouldn't Logan Ryan be a good signing?

Luck4Reich 03-22-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 157297)
If the mandate is win now, wouldn't Logan Ryan be a good signing?

Read he isnt willing to accept less than 10 million annually. I would like to have him. 2 year 22mil ?

IndyNorm 03-22-2020 11:21 AM

This one is a head scratcher for me. Despite his drop off last year (presumably due to injury) he's probably our best outside CB and since his remaining contract is all non-guaranteed salary we could have cut him during camp w/out any cap implications.

Hopefully Ballard has a plan in place for increased cap space.

Thorgrim 03-22-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157302)
Read he isnt willing to accept less than 10 million annually. I would like to have him. 2 year 22mil ?

Would have preferred we kept Desir. Ryan is a bit of a feast or famine type player, makes some big plays but has a penchant for giving up the TD as well.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-22-2020 02:09 PM

Didn't take long.......Desir signs with the Jets

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/...84791256662016

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SOURCE: The #Jets have agreed to a 1-year deal with CB Pierre Desir.

There’s your new starting DB

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241802107310804992

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The #Jets are giving CB Pierre Desir a 1-year contract worth up to $5.5M max, source said. He lands quickly after the surprising release.

Chaka 03-22-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 157325)
Didn't take long.......Desir signs with the Jets

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/...84791256662016

Bummer. I always liked Desir

YDFL Commish 03-22-2020 08:00 PM

So the Jests have signed Desir and Andrews. No team like Coats castoffs more than the Jests. There may be over half a dozen former Coats on the Jests roster.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-22-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 157350)
So the Jests have signed Desir and Andrews. No team like Coats castoffs more than the Jests. There may be over half a dozen former Coats on the Jests roster.


It is the Rex Hogan effect.

Brylok 03-23-2020 01:20 AM

The Desir decision is the weirdest one so far this year. I don't like it, but I'm trusting in Ballard. I don't like keeping JB either, especially at that wage, but as I said before...
I don't think they'll play the NFL season this year anyway, so ultimately it probably won't matter.

Luck4Reich 03-23-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 157357)
The Desir decision is the weirdest one so far this year. I don't like it, but I'm trusting in Ballard. I don't like keeping JB either, especially at that wage, but as I said before...
I don't think they'll play the NFL season this year anyway, so ultimately it probably won't matter.

It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

Spike 03-23-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157365)
It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

I agree. Too much tv revenue to not have a season, even if the stands are empty. Just look at Monday Night Raw. It's still going on without fans in the arena.

Spike 03-23-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157365)
It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

Didn't like this move at all.

Chaka 03-24-2020 06:17 AM

Looks like Desir got a one year deal from the Jets at $3.75M, and could increase to $5.5M with incentives.

http://www.profootballrumors.com/202...le-desir-henne

omahacolt 03-24-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 157265)
Hope this doesn't come back to bite us.

It will. This move was retarded

rm1369 03-25-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 157572)
It will. This move was retarded

Unless they have something in the works where they needed the cap space it makes absolutely no sense.

Puck 03-25-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 157572)
It will. This move was retarded

I think it means the Colts might be moving more to man to man and less Zone. Desir was not very good in M2M

Just a thought

Dam8610 03-25-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 157607)
I think it means the Colts might be moving more to man to man and less Zone. Desir was not very good in M2M

Just a thought

Wasn't Desir their Hopkins coverage specialist?

smitty46953 03-26-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 157477)
Looks like Desir got a one year deal from the Jets at $3.75M, and could increase to $5.5M with incentives.

http://www.profootballrumors.com/202...le-desir-henne

Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.

Luck4Reich 03-26-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 157733)
Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.

No kidding! That would have been serious depth.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-26-2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 157733)
Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.


Well Z. Keefer mentioned that the Colts were open to his return "if the opportunity presented itself" (tweet on first page of this thread)

In the past, if Ballard doesn't want to pay top dollar on a free agent contract, he usually tells the player / agent to go explore the open market and see what you can get. Then come back to the Colts before you sign and see if they want to match / beat. For instance, they did that with Geathers last year. If Desir had a sour taste from his release, maybe he didn't come back to Ballard after he scored the Jets offer.

Luck4Reich 03-26-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 157738)
Well Z. Keefer mentioned that the Colts were open to his return "if the opportunity presented itself" (tweet on first page of this thread)

In the past, if Ballard doesn't want to pay top dollar on a free agent contract, he usually tells the player / agent to go explore the open market and see what you can get. Then come back to the Colts before you sign and see if they want to match / beat. For instance, they did that with Geathers last year. If Desir had a sour taste from his release, maybe he didn't come back to Ballard after he scored the Jets offer.

Playing for the Jests is sour taste all by itself. :cool:

Puck 03-26-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 157629)
Wasn't Desir their Hopkins coverage specialist?

I think he gave up 105 yd in M2M against the chiefs last yr


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