2020 draft thread
 

Personally out on a limb prediction but I see Dolphins trading the 1.05 & 2.07 to the Lions to insure that they get Tua Tagovailoa.

Then the Lions trading the 1.05 to the Colts for the 1.13 & 2.02

Colts then take Justin Herbert leap frogging the Chargers @ 1.06 to do so?

Give Herbert this season or part of it to learn and step in for Jacoby next year or earlier should Brissett falter.

WORKING ON A 1ST ROUND MOCK :eek:

I've went hot, cold, and then hot again about Love.
I feel like I still want Kinlaw more than any QB not named Burrow.

I don't think Kinlaw falls past the Jags at 1.09 :cool:

We should have traded up for Simmons last draft. That's who I wanted. Kinlaw might not make it.

Its such a deep draft at WR we could get good ones later on. But I think Jeudy is the safest pick in the draft. I think he will be a 10 year vet at least and a multiple pro bowler. I like the comparisons to Marvin Harrison, the guys routes are just outstanding, he is always open, always.

Might depend who is throwing to him...


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True, but if the QB isn’t there, doesn’t mean we can’t get a WR. We drafted Marvin before Peyton. Worked out ok.

I'd rather trade up for him than take one any of these QB's besides Burrow or Tua

I could be wrong, but I like Herbert too... :cool:

Almost everything is dependent upon whether or not we need a left tackle. If we need a left tackle due to an early retirement you trade up and go get one. Because it doesn’t matter who will be playing quarterback if you get steamrolled every dog on time he goes back to throw.

If Costanzo decides to stay then you trade up if the quarterback that you want is still there within reach in the first six pics.

If the quarterback you really wanted goes really early, can you trade up so that you can get the best pass rusher in the draft who still available.

The Colts have a lot of pics and they have a lot of leverage to go get whoever they want. And I know this may sound crazy but if Drew Brees is hanging around he might want to come back to Indiana I’m not saying I’m just saying

We don’t need to trade up for an LT. There are plenty in this draft. Unless you want the very best one. But we could sit at 13 or even trade down and still get a decent LT in this draft. We could get one in the 2nd, might be more of a gamble. But that’s how many there are this draft.

But everything starts with that QB position. If they trade up, it’s for a QB. If we stay with JB, and don’t draft one, then it’s a rebuild year and probably embracing mediocrity again. If they like love, they might be able to trade back a little and get him. But it starts to get risky there. You fuck around too much and someone will jump in front of you and take your guy. And yeah there is the FA vet route as well. That is a win now proposition.

If they stick with JB and Castonzo retire, we probably draft LT
If we stick with JB and Castonzo stays, we probably draft DT
If we go FA vet QB and Castonzo leaves, we probably draft LT
If we go FA vet QB and Castonzo stays, we probably draft WR

Or we go after a QB in the draft

You do know that you can swear on this forum...right?

What the fuck when did that change? MODS... do somthing

No shit? When did that start? LOL :cool:

Not sold on him at 13. Not sold on any of them. Next yr is going to be a good QB yr Way better than this oneIMO Its almost like the Q deal. Build the trenches and get the Q of the Dline

After Trevor Lawrence (Clemson) and Justin Fields (Ohio State) who should both go in top 4 who is a potential franchise QB? Off top of my head these are the only two. Doubt we are drafting that early. I like Kinlaw too, but Herbert IMO would be the better pick, if not sold on Brissett who is in last year of contract I believe.

Herbert has all the physical attributes to check all the boxes for what NFL teams are looking for in a franchise quarterback. Shows consistency with both accuracy and velocity on passes. Has shown the ability to stretch the field vertically and also fit passes into tight windows. Ball placement is ideal. Knows when to put passes high, when to put them low, when to lead receivers away from contact, etc. Has good mobility and can maintain passing integrity with arm strength and accuracy when on the run.

Rather have him than Brady or Rivers as short term band aids?

What about Bridgewater? He looked like he was well on his way to becoming a franchise QB before a devastating knee injury with the Vikings, he filled in admirably for Brees this past year, and he's only 27. I like him more than any QB the Colts can access in this draft without mortgaging their future completely, and I think the Colts are a playoff team with him at QB before the draft or other free agent acquisitions.

The kid that is transferring to Georgia is gonna surprise people I think, the first surprise is I can't think of his name right now.

more surprises, I found him.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticl...2/#141914402_1

.https://youtu.be/-oM7HDqvOtg

I don't see the Saints letting him walk. If Brees does stay will only be year or two at most. But yes Bridgewater has looked decent filling in. So did Brissett for a stint. Who knows probably end up with Rivers for 2 years and back in QB market again?

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This tweet is a few weeks old, but Sean Payton made some remarks in which he didn't think it would be possible for the Saints to bring back all three QB's next season......


https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...47543694413824

I'd rather go after Stafford

Reich and Sirriani both have ties to Rivers. I hope he (Rivers) isn't their choice.

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Right now I hope Kinlaw is at 13.

That said the talent at 13 should be such that I don't want to see the Colts trade up to get a guy (baring a trade for Tua, and at that point I think it'll be too expensive) unless the capital used is a 4th round pick at best.

Brissett didn't look as good filling in as Bridgewater did, plus Bridgewater has a much better history and track record behind him than Brissett.

I don't think that anyone can dispute that Bridgewater is an upgrade over Brissett.

The question is, is he a significant enough upgrade to offer him $25 million a year or more...which is probably his market value?

Bridgewater had some receivers, as in one of the best in the league right now. The Colts best threat last year was Jack Doyle.

I'm not making excuses for Brisset, but I don't know if any back up QB could have done as well with the mess the Colts had at WR

FWIW - Bridgewater received two offers last year as a free agent.

the Saints offered a 1 year, $7.25MM + bonus incentives contract
the Dolphins offered a 2 year, $10MM + bonus incentives contract

When he was negotiating with the Dolphins, he reportedly asked for $16MM / year to be their starting QB.

nothing about Bridgewater interests me

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BridTe00.htm

I saw a couple of mocks with us getting Love at 34. Do you all think he slips into the second round? I don't.

If you think Bridgewater can be the starter, you can spend the 13th pick on Jerry Jeudy if you're really worried about T.Y. Hilton's health (which is a valid concern at this point), then invest in the defense.

Brisset didn’t end the season with many weapons. But his problems extend beyond that.
He won’t throw to a guy unless he is already open.
He doesn’t throw deep, if he does his timing is off and he misses his window.
He has a strong arm but he doesn’t have it under control and doesn’t throw with touch on his throws enough.
He is unwilling to take chances and takes his outlet too much.
He takes too long to get through his progressions and protection breaks down, with a good line he should get rid of the ball much faster.
I think he finished 24th in the league and that is with a good running game and protection.

He is a below average QB, and once teams started to figure him out he got exposed. I think any QB landing just in the teens would add to our win total. But I don’t think we should be looking for incrementally better. We should be looking for the best QB we can get and make teams worry about whether to defend the pass or the run when facing the offense.

No, I think he goes 15-32.

Still way early in the draft process but one trade that I think might be worthwhile is to package the two second round picks (Pick 34 and 44) and move up into the first round to gain a second Round 1 pick.

Even accounting for the Day 1 draft day premium, you should be able to snag a selection somewhere between Pick 21 - 25.

Basically do the opposite of last year's trade with Washington.

I think he goes 13.


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That's a lot of receivers. 30 receivers evens out to 10 receivers in each round. If only five go in the first, means by the third round, every other pick might be a receiver.

All those guys will need a good QB to get them the ball. Not all of them will end up with one of those. I just hope whichever one we draft gets a good one throwing the ball. That is Priority #1.

I agree QB is top priority. The team starts with the QB.

I do think a good receiver can make an average QB better. I don’t see a QB as a prerequisite for drafting a WR. You might add a better QB next year or in the future. It’s also like saying you should t draft a RB unless you have an offensive line. Regardless of position I believe in adding the best talent you can get. It all contributes to making a better team.

I agree with you, even if you don't think so. We got Marvin a year ahead of Peyton, and that worked out very well.

Nice article on the draft able QBs

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...r-top-five-qbs