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Puck 11-09-2019 07:01 PM

2020 QB prospects
 
I thought this needed its own thread so it doesn't get lost in the original threads.


I don't watch much college football but I know a few of you do and have some real knowledge.

The kid from LSU looks good....very good against Alabama

Anyway you smart guys give us the take

smitty46953 11-09-2019 07:35 PM

My Top 8 are as follows:

Tua Tagovailoa Alabama 6'1" 218
Joe Burrow LSU 6'4" 216
Jalen Hurts Oklahoma 6'2" 210
Jacob Eason Washington 6'6" 228
Justin Herbert Oregon 6'6" 225
Jordan Love Utah State 6'4" 220
Jake Fromm Georgia 6'2" 220
Sam Ehlinger Texas 6'3" 235

Haven't decided just yet on my final ranks :cool:

Puck 11-09-2019 07:42 PM

As much as I thought that Lamar would be a bust...... His skill set would be amazing with Reich

Who is like him?

smitty46953 11-09-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141475)
As much as I thought that Lamar would be a bust...... His skill set would be amazing with Reich

Who is like him?

Probably Jalen Hurts from Oklahoma, but hard to not like QB's named Joe ? :cool: Actually think Hurts a bit better than Lamar Jackson was coming out of Louisville. IMHO :cool:

Imagine 3-4 QB's go fairly early so might require a trade up. I do like this class better than last year. The WR's and RB's are also better this year.

Puck 11-09-2019 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 141476)
Probably Jalen Hurts from Oklahoma, but hard to not like QB's named Joe ? :cool: Actually think Hurts a bit better than Lamar Jackson was coming out of Louisville. IMHO :cool:

Imagine 3-4 QB's go fairly early so might require a trade up. I do like this class better than last year. The WR's and RB's are also better this year.

Probably wont be available for us

I am digging this Burrows kid...... he wont be there either

albany ed 11-09-2019 07:59 PM

I like Burrows too. Reminds me of Jim Harbaugh. Not the best talent, but a HUGE heart for the game.

smitty46953 11-09-2019 07:59 PM

Coming in Joe Burrow was 205/260 for 78.8% 2805 yds, 30 TD, 4 INT, 350.6 YPG against good competition. Kid could be 1st QB chosen. To bad Tua playing on sore ankle he is real deal too. :cool:

Spike 11-09-2019 09:06 PM

Just finished watching the LSU/Bama game. Burrow was a beast. Both he and Tua are going to be fine QB's in the NFL in my opinion. Tua throws a great deep ball. He was hampered with an ankle injury and still played his ass off. Don't think we have a chance at either one though because both will be top 10 draft picks.

If the Colts have a chance, I would take Burrow or Tua over the rest of QB's you listed Smitty. Not that sold on Herby.

smitty46953 11-09-2019 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 141481)
Just finished watching the LSU/Bama game. Burrow was a beast. Both he and Tua are going to be fine QB's in the NFL in my opinion. Tua throws a great deep ball. He was hampered with an ankle injury and still played his ass off. Don't think we have a chance at either one though because both will be top 10 draft picks.

If the Colts have a chance, I would take Burrow or Tua over the rest of QB's you listed Smitty. Not that sold on Herby.

I agree with Burrow or Tua :cool:

smitty46953 11-09-2019 09:44 PM

If you are watching Iowa State vs Oklahoma you can check out Hurts. Also like Cee Dee Lamb the WR from OU :cool:

Spike 11-09-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 141485)
If you are watching Iowa State vs Oklahoma you can check out Hurts. Also like Cee Dee Lamb the WR from OU :cool:

Really like Lamb. He could be a damn good piece for our Colts team.

ChoppedWood 11-10-2019 03:34 AM

Love Burrows- kid is a killer, steps on the throat and stabs you in the gut guy- LOVE IT, and the dude is tough as all fuck.

Hurts- shit, that dude is playing so balls out with fury based on how things played out at Alabama- he is an absolute stud as well.

Both those guys are top 10 IMO.

After that, I like some of those other guys, but not so much that I try to jump up to get them by sacrificing other areas.

njcoltfan 11-10-2019 07:51 AM

Colts brass love Brissett, doubt they try to draft his replacement this year.

Luck4Reich 11-10-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 141502)
Colts brass love Brissett, doubt they try to draft his replacement this year.

None of us know how Ballard really feels about JB. Of course he is going to say great things about him. What else would they say when that is the only option at the moment. If you believe he and Reich are not looking at and talking about QBs in the next draft and who might be a best fit you are delusional.

If by some chance let's say you were right then I dont know if I want Ballard as a GM because it's obvious that JB is not the type of QB that will get you next level.

And let's say all things lined up and JB had a Flacco season and Colts win 1 Superbowl? Irsay wants to win multiple SuperBowls. Ballard knows he cant win multiple with JB. Reich has to know as well.

So yes they are looking at a QB in next draft.

njcoltfan 11-10-2019 12:19 PM

Might be looking, won’t draft one this year, maybe next

omahacolt 11-10-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141477)
Probably wont be available for us

I am digging this Burrows kid...... he wont be there either

Going up to get a qb should be on the table

Luck4Reich 11-10-2019 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 141529)
Going up to get a qb should be on the table

Most definitely.

Why do people think they are just going to be satisfied with JB?

smitty46953 11-10-2019 03:47 PM

Depending on who is available and possible trading partners I would consider moving up a bit for a QB. We have the Redskins 2nd and the Jets 2nd sixth-round selection. :cool:

Washington traded a second-round selection and a 2019 second-round selection to Indianapolis in exchange for a 2019 first-round selection

The New York Jets traded their 2nd sixth-round selection to Indianapolis in exchange for cornerback Nate Hairston

Not sure what this will bring: Miami traded an undisclosed 2020 NFL Draft pick to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for an undisclosed conditional 2020 NFL Draft pick and center/guard Evan Boehm

Puck 11-10-2019 04:05 PM

Is JB signed through next season? Or just this one

smitty46953 11-10-2019 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141572)
Is JB signed through next season? Or just this one

Through 2020
Jacoby Brissett signed a 2 year, $30,000,000 contract with the Indianapolis Colts, including a $13,000,000 signing bonus, $20,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000.

Puck 11-10-2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 141573)
Through 2020
Jacoby Brissett signed a 2 year, $30,000,000 contract with the Indianapolis Colts, including a $13,000,000 signing bonus, $20,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000.

So. He "could" be traded if we draft a QB.


Noe of that is gonna happen though

smitty46953 11-10-2019 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141598)
So. He "could" be traded if we draft a QB.


Noe of that is gonna happen though

Or start one more year while new guy learns system... :cool:

omahacolt 11-10-2019 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141598)
So. He "could" be traded if we draft a QB.


Noe of that is gonna happen though

Yeah but he also affords is the ability to take a Jordan Love like kid and see if he can develop

TheMugwump 11-10-2019 07:13 PM

Haven't seen more than one game of his this season, but in past seasons, I like the Texas QB Ehlinger's compete. He's a scrapper with some talent. Reminds me of Harbaugh.

Spike 11-10-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 141816)
Haven't seen more than one game of his this season, but in past seasons, I like the Texas QB Ehlinger's compete. He's a scrapper with some talent. Reminds me of Harbaugh.

I've seen him more than once. Let him go bust for some other team.

Chromeburn 11-10-2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 141475)
As much as I thought that Lamar would be a bust...... His skill set would be amazing with Reich

Who is like him?

Lamar was pretty unique even in the diverse realm of college QBs. He gave Clemson fits in several games. I didn’t think he would make it either though because his passing game never seemed to improve at Louisville.

Chromeburn 11-10-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 141474)
My Top 8 are as follows:

Tua Tagovailoa Alabama 6'1" 218
Joe Burrow LSU 6'4" 216
Jalen Hurts Oklahoma 6'2" 210
Jacob Eason Washington 6'6" 228
Justin Herbert Oregon 6'6" 225
Jordan Love Utah State 6'4" 220
Jake Fromm Georgia 6'2" 220
Sam Ehlinger Texas 6'3" 235

Haven't decided just yet on my final ranks :cool:


There are some more to add to this list. Not first rounders.

Kellen Mond T A&M 6’4
Steven Montez. Colorado 6’5
KJ Costello Stanford 6’5
Nate Stanley Iowa 6’4

There are some more developmental guys and sleepers as well.

smitty46953 11-10-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 141986)
There are some more to add to this list. Not first rounders.



Kellen Mond T A&M 6’4

Steven Montez. Colorado 6’5

KJ Costello Stanford 6’5

Nate Stanley Iowa 6’4



There are some more developmental guys and sleepers as well.

I am in a 32 team dynasty league along with vevejones. I have list of top 40 draft prospects for every position that I maintain throughout the year with exception of OL. Rankings constantly change. Players I listed are only ones I feel will have a shot at going top 2 rounds. IMHO Iimagine Bengals Dolphins both go QB early. We could possibly move up to grab one of the next guys? I think Burrow goes to Bengals and Tua to the Dolphins. My way to early prediction.

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Chromeburn 11-10-2019 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 142000)
I am in a 32 team dynasty league along with vevejones. I have list of top 40 draft prospects for every position that I maintain throughout the year with exception of OL. Rankings constantly change. Players I listed are only ones I feel will have a shot at going top 2 rounds. IMHO Iimagine Bengals Dolphins both go QB early. We could possibly move up to grab one of the next guys? I think Burrow goes to Bengals and Tua to the Dolphins. My way to early prediction.

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I see a lot of depth in this class, not necessarily a lot of talent at the top. I think s lot of the QBs are flawed in some way or another and see them grouped similarly. Probably best to find a guy that fits your system.

CanuckColt 11-10-2019 11:40 PM

I would take Herbert if he dropped down within range of us moving up.

Dam8610 11-11-2019 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 141474)
My Top 8 are as follows:

Tua Tagovailoa Alabama 6'1" 218
Joe Burrow LSU 6'4" 216
Jalen Hurts Oklahoma 6'2" 210
Jacob Eason Washington 6'6" 228
Justin Herbert Oregon 6'6" 225
Jordan Love Utah State 6'4" 220
Jake Fromm Georgia 6'2" 220
Sam Ehlinger Texas 6'3" 235

Haven't decided just yet on my final ranks :cool:

I haven't done a deep dive yet on any of them, but what I've seen of Burrow really impresses me. He made so many elite NFL level throws against Alabama. Accuracy and ball placement have been off the charts good based on what I've seen of him. Of course if the Colts want him, they'll probably have to give up a lot of draft capital to get him.

Also, I don't have a good reason for saying it right now and I could entirely change my mind after watching him, but something about Tua makes me think he'll bust. Part of it I think is that too many of his big plays are him standing in a clean pocket for 5+ seconds to hit a deep ball for a big play or a score. He's not likely to have that luxury in the NFL, and he may not respond well to that.

Dewey 5 11-11-2019 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 142150)
I haven't done a deep dive yet on any of them, but what I've seen of Burrow really impresses me. He made so many elite NFL level throws against Alabama. Accuracy and ball placement have been off the charts good based on what I've seen of him. Of course if the Colts want him, they'll probably have to give up a lot of draft capital to get him.

Also, I don't have a good reason for saying it right now and I could entirely change my mind after watching him, but something about Tua makes me think he'll bust. Part of it I think is that too many of his big plays are him standing in a clean pocket for 5+ seconds to hit a deep ball for a big play or a score. He's not likely to have that luxury in the NFL, and he may not respond well to that.

I agree about Tua. Not a fan.

smitty46953 11-11-2019 09:31 PM

Personally I like Burrow :cool:

Chromeburn 11-12-2019 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 142029)
I would take Herbert if he dropped down within range of us moving up.

I’ve seen a lot of Herbert since I watch a lot of PAC 12. He disappears more than he should. The potential and talent is there. Just wondering why it’s happening. He did not rise to the occasion against Auburn and that worried me.

Chromeburn 11-12-2019 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 142181)
Personally I like Burrow :cool:

I was raving about him at the beginning of the season after watching him against Texas. He stepped up in the pocket well and found guys with great accuracy when under pressure. Stood in the pocket and threw even when a hit was coming. I like his quick decision making and accuracy, I think accuracy is the most important trait for a QB today. Also teammates seem to love him. I think he has played himself into the top ten though and perhaps past us.

Oh I’m not sold on Tua either.

smitty46953 11-12-2019 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 142239)
I’ve seen a lot of Herbert since I watch a lot of PAC 12. He disappears more than he should. The potential and talent is there. Just wondering why it’s happening. He did not rise to the occasion against Auburn and that worried me.

I agree Herbert has all the potential of the traditional QB, size 6'6" 225#.
Has flashes of greatness then nothing. Perhaps with coaching ? :cool:

Spike 11-16-2019 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 142181)
Personally I like Burrow :cool:

Burrow is a beast again tonight. Damn, I would love to have that guy on the Colts, won't happen though.

Tua got fucked up today, may be gone for the season. Reports are that he has a dislocated hip.

Spike 11-16-2019 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 142239)
I’ve seen a lot of Herbert since I watch a lot of PAC 12. He disappears more than he should. The potential and talent is there. Just wondering why it’s happening. He did not rise to the occasion against Auburn and that worried me.

Totally agree, not a fan of Herby.

Chromeburn 11-17-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 142737)
Burrow is a beast again tonight. Damn, I would love to have that guy on the Colts, won't happen though.

Tua got fucked up today, may be gone for the season. Reports are that he has a dislocated hip.

He’s done for the year. Wonder if that will affect his stock.

JAFF 11-17-2019 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 142794)
He’s done for the year. Wonder if that will affect his stock.

Depends on the physical at the combine


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