Adam Vinatieri
 

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Just grabbed Adam Vinatieri was he headed to the bus. He said “you’ll here from me tomorrow.” I told him we don’t see him tomorrow. And he said, “Yeah, you will.”




Wonder what he is thinking? :cool:

We will see his retirement announcement?:cool:

Guy has had a hell of a career with no more to prove.

Well if he retires my hats off to the dude. Can’t blame him for trying and at least he has the nads to hang it up knowing he can’t keep going out there kicking like that.

The first kick looked like a bad snap. The second, a total slice. I'm not going to call for his job. I've just never seen someone who is all over the place like Adam is right now

Good for him. I don't think he wants to go out there and embarrass himself for an entire season.

The question now is do they go with the dirty Sanchez as the kicker and just sign a backup? Maybe they can have Sanchez doing PK and bring back Omaha's favorite guy McAfee for punting. haha

His head's not in it...he's done. Have to love the guy though; he's done a hell of a lot for this team.

I love him but I think it's time. Nothing but love for AV.

I'm sad if he does retire, but I won't blame him either. Much rather see that than him get cut. A guy like him should never get cut.

"hear" is the word, Holder. "Hear".

You expect a journalist to spell correctly?

He is probably thinking "I wonder what kind of gift wrapping will be on my next paycheck"

I hope not. I’d rather gamble on him coming out of his funk than getting some guy off the street.

Should AV call it quits they will probably bring back Cole Hedlund who was the camp leg this year. Hedlund made 51-of-54 extra points and 19-of-22 field goals as a senior at North Texas. Also heard McAfee mentioned, but doubt that. :cool:

McAfee was considering a comeback for the Bears this year when they invited a ton of kickers to camp. His body said "No thanks," however.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/be...ich-eisen-show

I guess it comes down to his practicing for me. If the guy is fine in practice, but is just melting down in the games, then it’s a mental issue. And I have full confidence that Vinatieri can dig himself out of a mental hole. If he’s just as inaccurate in practice, however, I’d say it’s time to hang ‘em up.

Age catches up to everyone. AV has already beat the odds by a LONG shot, but there's no beating the clock forever. My first baseball hero was Willie Mays, to this day, the most exciting and talented player I've ever seen. It broke my heart to see him playing beyond his time and embarrassing himself and all his fans. AV needs to get out before the fans all turn against him. He cost us game 1 and he nearly cost us game 2. It's time to go. Better to get out a little too soon than a little too late.

1. I will always have admiration and respect for AV. True champion.
2. He knows he is done and we know he is done. so that just leaves...
3. Either IR that leads to retirement or just straight call it quits.

Guy hit a 61 yarder in pre game warm ups. Might be a case of the yips. Everyone wants to shuffle him off but grass may not be greener with some dude off the street.

I am not advocating for the guy to shuffle off IF he gets this turned around. I am saying time may be catching up to him in a hurry. A long FG in practice with no noise or rush is one thing, game time is another. It could be that the long practice FGs wear him down or perhaps he has an unlisted injury. I would love to see him get back to Mr. Automatic, don't get me wrong. I just feel like we are watching to end of a HOF career.

He has also dealt with a few injuries this season. He missed a good portion of camp and preseason activities due to a knee injury. Might have been more newsworthy but the Luck saga overshadowed it. I also saw mention of a toe injury which would probably hurt while kicking if it is on either the kicking foot or the planting foot.

AV downplayed the injury talk after the first game. Reich did the same. However, the injuries may now be healed or at a point where it is "good enough to go and play football" but he may have developed a few hitches in his normal mechanics to compensate for the injury. He mentioned that he saw a few problems with his mechanics when he reviewed the video of Game 1.

I’d MUCH MUCH rather take my chances that Vinny figures this out than bring in some dude off the street.

I would much rather they let Sanchez take over PK duties instead of continuing to struggle there. It almost cost this team 2 games already.

You are saying you want to go into a live contest with a guy who has never kicked a FG in the NFL than with the greatest kicker of all time. Sanchez kicking would also necessitate a new holder as well.

We have had 2 games so far this season. Vinatieri lost one game for us and almost lost the second one for us as well.

Look, I appreciate what he has done for us. We wouldn't have won a superbowl without him because he won that Ravens game for us that year, but it's pretty clear that there is an issue, and if Adam is considering retiring, it's something of concern, so yeah, at this point, I would rather go with a younger guy, and if we have a guy on the team who can do it, why not? I'm sure they'll bring in another kicker. If Sanchez is better than him, then let that guy be the holder.

Nostalgia will only get you so far. In the NFL you are paid to win games. Right now he is not doing that, or contributing to winning games. They cut friggin Peyton Manning, Vinny is not beyond approach. It is a what have you done for me lately business. Right now he hasn't done much.

I am a huge Adam fan, have one of his jersey's and he will go down as the greatest kicker in history. Every athlete wants to ride off in the sunset as a champion, but that is a rarity. Most go out making a mockery of their once great career. I don't want to see him degrade himself on the way to the hall of fame.

Sanchez will not be taking over as the placekicker, because no team is stupid enough to have only 1 kicker on the roster. If AV stays on the team, he kicks. If he retires, then a new PK will be signed.

I didn't say for them to have only one kicker on the roster. I think they should sign someone and let that person and Sanchez compete for it. If Sanchez wins the job, then the other guy would be the backup and holder. If the other guy they sign is better, then that's great.

All that would certainly mess with your kicking mechanics.

It's not nostalgia for me. I honestly don't really care about kickers and I think it is a little silly to have one as your main captain. But I appreciate the security a good one gives you.

But to me it's like saying we're gonna replace Tiger Woods with a golf pro from the local country club. I would rather ride Woods and hope he gets his swing back. We have had some good kickers over the years, we may find out what most other teams go through with their kicking woes.

There are quite a few guys on the street the have kicked field goals in the NFL.

In his conference call, Reich is backing AV:

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...88527852322816

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...89330679910400

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...90580137840656

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...91010335039488

He has had 2, i repeat two poor games, that have cost us 3 points on PAT's and then missed one FG......that could i admit have cost us two games....but in the grand scheme of things, Eric Ebron not making the TD catch against the Chargers cost us 4 points, the offside penalty etc etc. I have more faith that over the course of the rest of the season that AV will be better than any kicker we pick up off of the street.

Ebron has been targeted 7 times this season and has 4 catches and 1 TD. When he's not running routes, he's blocking for running plays. Vinatieri has one job, placekicking. Historically, no one has ever done it better, but shit brother, he's 46 years old. He's closer to collecting SS than he is to the younger NFLers in the game. If time has caught up to him, he has to go. He hasn't even had to kick when there's extreme pressure on him like the guy from the Bears yesterday from 53 yards. 1 game is an aberration, 2 games out of 2? If he were 30 years old I'd only be a little concerned, but at 46, I'm deeply concerned.

Reich said at his presser that Vinateri will kick for us Sunday. Good

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I'm glad.

Reich doesn't seem the type to suffer fools gladly, and I suspect that Vinatieri will be fine as the season progresses. I think that Reich really feels this way, that he isn't just giving us lip service.


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I promise you that AV will win us games this year.

AV has won so many games for us that I suppose he has the right to lose some as well. I will trust Reich and AV on this decision. I hope it works out

If you are Reich it is absolutely the correct move. Loyalty to players and what it will teach this young team if they watch a GOAT struggle, persevere and overcome is well worth the chance that he fails and we lose a game.

2 poor games out of 2 games this season.

From alwayssunny's post, maybe there is an injury issue. If that's the case, then they aren't doing him any favors by not reporting it properly on the weekly injury report.