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JAFF 07-30-2019 01:42 PM

Luck has a set back
 
http://https://www.indystar.com/stor...lf/1865787001/

And news on Shear

http://https://www.indystar.com/stor...rd/1813672001/

Colt Classic 07-30-2019 05:32 PM

No way! Shocked, I say. He'll return by week 4 at least.

JAFF 07-30-2019 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt Classic (Post 124669)
No way! Shocked, I say. He'll return by week 4 at least.

Didnt he miss 4 games last year?

DrSpaceman 07-31-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 124681)
Didnt he miss 4 games last year?

No he did not. Started every game

In fact he has started 15 or 16 games in 5 of the 7 years he has been in the league.

he played 7 games the year he lacerated his spleen in 2015 and missed all of 2017. Otherwise he has started basically every game each year.

he missed the Steelers game in 2016, I don't recall why. The unforgettable Scott Tolzien filled in for him. That is the only game he has missed in the other years.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...L/LuckAn00.htm

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 07-31-2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 124745)

he missed the Steelers game in 2016, I don't recall why. The unforgettable Scott Tolzien filled in for him.


Luck suffered a concussion in the prior week's win vs. Tennessee. He was in concussion protocol during a short prep week - the Colts played the Steelers on Thursday night on Thanksgiving.

YDFL Commish 07-31-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 124753)
Luck suffered a concussion in the prior week's win vs. Tennessee. He was in concussion protocol during a short prep week - the Colts played the Steelers on Thursday night on Thanksgiving.


Isn't Tolzien another Grigson pickup who is no longer in the NFL?

Hoopsdoc 08-01-2019 04:46 PM

I’m very uneasy about this situation. He suffered this in April and it hasn’t healed yet? Who’s to say it will heal in another 4 weeks?

I’m resigned to the fact that he’s gonna miss some regular season time, potentially a lot.

DrSpaceman 08-01-2019 06:00 PM

I don't think he will miss any time

My feeling is this is a situation where if it was a regular season game he'd be playing, but since its not and none of these games or work outs are critical for him, they are giving it as much time as he needs.

If he misses the 3rd preseason game, we should be worried. I don't that happens.

Hoopsdoc 08-01-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 124862)
I don't think he will miss any time

My feeling is this is a situation where if it was a regular season game he'd be playing, but since its not and none of these games or work outs are critical for him, they are giving it as much time as he needs.

If he misses the 3rd preseason game, we should be worried. I don't that happens.

This was my first impression. It’s gotten a lot more ominous lately, though.

Combine the fact that it happened in April and is still no better with Andrews recent cryptic comments about mental “scars” from 2017, and there’s plenty there to be concerned about.

I’m pretty sure at this point, he’s not playing at all in the preseason.

YDFL Commish 08-01-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 124852)
I’m very uneasy about this situation. He suffered this in April and it hasn’t healed yet? Who’s to say it will heal in another 4 weeks?

I’m resigned to the fact that he’s gonna miss some regular season time, potentially a lot.

Possibly re-injured during procreation activities?

DrSpaceman 08-01-2019 11:45 PM

We will see, but I am not getting upset over him missing what would probably be one series in a preseason game. Preseason game one is low reward, high risk situation for any veteran QB.

Even if he wasn't injured I wouldn't care much if he played this upcoming game

Preseason Game 3, if he doesn't play or is limited there I will start worrying

Hoopsdoc 08-02-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 124870)
Possibly re-injured during procreation activities?

Calf strain seems like an odd injury to suffer during copulation. Maybe they were getting creative. :D

CanuckColt 08-02-2019 08:45 PM

CBS Sports article 'Inside Colts Camp' says the Colts are now targeting a Week 1 return for Andrew and that we should not expect to see him in preseason.

Colt Classic 08-02-2019 09:24 PM

Is he able to do any work with all of the new targets?!

IndyNorm 08-03-2019 09:08 AM

Not good at all :mad: Obviously I hope I'm wrong, but this seems to have 2017 written all over it. At the very least the injury was probably much more than just a calf strain.

Hoopsdoc 08-03-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 124962)
CBS Sports article 'Inside Colts Camp' says the Colts are now targeting a Week 1 return for Andrew and that we should not expect to see him in preseason.

I knew it. I’ll be surprised if he plays week 1 at this point.

Even if he does, he’ll be rusty and the early schedule is brutal.

It’s setting up to be a lonnnnng season.

Chromeburn 08-03-2019 10:21 AM

3 and a half months for a calf strain. He said when he makes sharp turns or jumps it feels like it is straining and is pushing too hard.

indycolts2 08-03-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 124962)
CBS Sports article 'Inside Colts Camp' says the Colts are now targeting a Week 1 return for Andrew and that we should not expect to see him in preseason.

Yeah, remember the speculation about week 1 in 2017 all too well.

smitty46953 08-03-2019 08:37 PM

Could our QB be a head case? :eek:

Luck recently said … “I still have some emotional scars from that (shoulder injury) and that lives with me still, but I’m trying to use it in a positive way certainly for myself.”

Didn't Irsay say last year

“It’s been said before, all sports is played on a 4-inch field between your ears. It’s really important we continue to help Andrew emotionally, mentally, get his confidence and his endorsement, deep down his rubber stamp (in) his heart of hearts because in the end, that carries the biggest weight.”

and later from TV booth

“…You have to be able to deal with this, not only physically but mentally,” Irsay said. “I have no doubt that Andrew, the person that he is, he’s going to come out of this thing not just how he was but a better quarterback. ‘When’ is the question. That timetable is more on the football gods and Andrew’s gut feeling on how he’s feeling.”


:cool: Could it be more mental than physical/ Afraid he will hurt himself again?

ChoppedWood 08-04-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 125023)
Could our QB be a head case? :eek:

Luck recently said … “I still have some emotional scars from that (shoulder injury) and that lives with me still, but I’m trying to use it in a positive way certainly for myself.”

Didn't Irsay say last year

“It’s been said before, all sports is played on a 4-inch field between your ears. It’s really important we continue to help Andrew emotionally, mentally, get his confidence and his endorsement, deep down his rubber stamp (in) his heart of hearts because in the end, that carries the biggest weight.”

and later from TV booth

“…You have to be able to deal with this, not only physically but mentally,” Irsay said. “I have no doubt that Andrew, the person that he is, he’s going to come out of this thing not just how he was but a better quarterback. ‘When’ is the question. That timetable is more on the football gods and Andrew’s gut feeling on how he’s feeling.”


:cool: Could it be more mental than physical/ Afraid he will hurt himself again?


One of the earlier quotes about the situation had him admitting there had been some talk of minor surgery but after evaluations they didn't think it was necessary. Can't help but to think we're now heading toward something early this week along the lines of:

Tuesday: "Andrew's going to get another opinion on this thing simply because the pain shouldn't be there now and it is"

Friday: "Andrew is going to have a minor procedure on that leg this weekend, we'll know more on any time he will miss after that"

Monday on ESPN alert: "Andrew Luck to miss at least the first 4 regular season games after surgery to repair a tear in his calf dating to April of this year"

Just has that ominous feel unfortunately...

Hoopsdoc 08-04-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 125056)
One of the earlier quotes about the situation had him admitting there had been some talk of minor surgery but after evaluations they didn't think it was necessary. Can't help but to think we're now heading toward something early this week along the lines of:

Tuesday: "Andrew's going to get another opinion on this thing simply because the pain shouldn't be there now and it is"

Friday: "Andrew is going to have a minor procedure on that leg this weekend, we'll know more on any time he will miss after that"

Monday on ESPN alert: "Andrew Luck to miss at least the first 4 regular season games after surgery to repair a tear in his calf dating to April of this year"

Just has that ominous feel unfortunately...

Wednesday on ESPN alert: “Andrew Luck’s leg amputated at the knee, Colts place him on IR, sign Curtis Painter”

ChoppedWood 08-04-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 125088)
Wednesday on ESPN alert: “Andrew Luck’s leg amputated at the knee, Colts place him on IR, sign Curtis Painter”

It's the Colts, it will have to also include something along the lines of:
"despite the leg amputation, the organization feels confident he will be back by the playoffs"

ChoppedWood 08-06-2019 12:23 PM

on DD he just reported:
- Luck has high ankle sprain not associated with football but another snow boarding accident.
- Will miss a minimum of 3 games.

This is apparently being reported by some guy named Daniel Wilson. I've searched around, I cannot find this guy associated with any local sports programming or national for that matter so take it for what it is... hopefully just some bullshit...

That being said, if this turns out to be true like the shoulder thing...

Hoopsdoc 08-06-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 125270)
on DD he just reported:
- Luck has high ankle sprain not associated with football but another snow boarding accident.
- Will miss a minimum of 3 games.

This is apparently being reported by some guy named Daniel Wilson. I've searched around, I cannot find this guy associated with any local sports programming or national for that matter so take it for what it is... hopefully just some bullshit...

That being said, if this turns out to be true like the shoulder thing...

Wouldn’t surprise me at this point.

Maniac 08-07-2019 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 125270)
on DD he just reported:
- Luck has high ankle sprain not associated with football but another snow boarding accident.
- Will miss a minimum of 3 games.

This is apparently being reported by some guy named Daniel Wilson. I've searched around, I cannot find this guy associated with any local sports programming or national for that matter so take it for what it is... hopefully just some bullshit...

That being said, if this turns out to be true like the shoulder thing...

If he got injured further AGAIN from snowboarding, then the team better ban him from ever doing that again.

Chromeburn 08-07-2019 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 125270)
on DD he just reported:
- Luck has high ankle sprain not associated with football but another snow boarding accident.
- Will miss a minimum of 3 games.

This is apparently being reported by some guy named Daniel Wilson. I've searched around, I cannot find this guy associated with any local sports programming or national for that matter so take it for what it is... hopefully just some bullshit...

That being said, if this turns out to be true like the shoulder thing...

I heard his leg fell off. They actually called Pagano and he came back. He is currently making Luck a new leg out of wood.

Oldcolt 08-07-2019 10:57 AM

This has got me a little worried now. A level 3 calf strain can take up to months to completely heal, so there is that. I'm worried, obviously, because of how his last injury played out. The silver lining is A) we get to showcase Brissett and B) I think we have a good enough roster to survive a few games without Luck

Butter 08-07-2019 07:45 PM

Showcasing Brisset for what? Him getting a bigger FA contract next season, I guess that might improve the comp pick they might get.

JAFF 08-07-2019 08:19 PM

I heard he was in the same cryotherapy bath with Antionio Brown

Oldcolt 08-08-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 125464)
Showcasing Brisset for what? Him getting a bigger FA contract next season, I guess that might improve the comp pick they might get.

My thought was that if Brisset plays well we might get the chance to move him in the season for a pick. Agreed its a pretty damn dull silver lining.

Hoopsdoc 08-08-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 125464)
Showcasing Brisset for what? Him getting a bigger FA contract next season, I guess that might improve the comp pick they might get.

Of course, the flip side to that is, they showcase Brisket who plays with a good OLine, unlike 2017, and he blows.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-08-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 125566)
Of course, the flip side to that is, they showcase Brisket who plays with a good OLine, unlike 2017, and he blows.


Well - besides the much better O-Line, he will be playing under a competent coaching staff. If something is not working, I think Reich and Sirianni will make some adjustments and try to game plan to Brissett's strengths. Instead of sitting back and saying - "we do what we do - just need to keep chopping wood."

JAFF 08-08-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 125567)
Well - besides the much better O-Line, he will be playing under a competent coaching staff. If something is not working, I think Reich and Sirianni will make some adjustments and try to game plan to Brissett's strengths. Instead of sitting back and saying - "we do what we do - just need to keep chopping wood."

No one is game planning for the preseason.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-08-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 125583)
No one is game planning for the preseason.

I wasn't talking about the preseason.

JAFF 08-08-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 125585)
I wasn't talking about the preseason.

Sorry. With the game tonight, I wasn't looking 5 weeks from now

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-08-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 125589)
Sorry. With the game tonight, I wasn't looking 5 weeks from now

No problem. Only 1 more month until Sept 8 vs the Chargers!! :cool:

Butter 08-08-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 125544)
My thought was that if Brisset plays well we might get the chance to move him in the season for a pick. Agreed its a pretty damn dull silver lining.

With Luck hobbling into the season I can't see any way they consider trading him.

1965southpaw 08-09-2019 08:55 AM

I heard Dr House spent a week with Jacoby in Indy a couple of weeks ago.......since he's helped Andrew and Drew Bree's so much, maybe that bodes well for improved accuracy from Brisset. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might say that they are making that investment cause they know they may need to ride him into the regular season.

smitty46953 08-09-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 125659)
I heard Dr House spent a week with Jacoby in Indy a couple of weeks ago....

Did he bring 13 with him ? :cool:

ChoppedWood 08-09-2019 04:20 PM

Just got an alert, out at least the next 3 PRACTICES... Hmmmm wonder if that's what the report into DD earlier this week was supposed to be...

In any regard, either playing it very very very conservatively (word is they are taking a really passive approach with even a slight injury in camp this year) and he would be fine if we played game 1 Sunday, or dude has a major injury and we're going to need to see Jacoby carry for a while...


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