Ballard vs Grigson - Change of Culture
 

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That was a very good read. Ballard comes across as a real professional, he was on the Herd yesterday and was a breath of fresh air. He appears to know what the hell he is doing, unlike Griggs and Pags. Not that it matters much, but Colin Cowherd, who is a big Luck supporter, is really impressed with Ballard. Pags better improve or I believe his ass will be gone soon, Ballard is not shy when it comes to canning incompetent asses.

Sounds like Ballard is getting along just fine with Pagano. Could be fluff, but a GM relying heavily on coordinator input to bring players in doesn't seem like a guy who's ready to clear the building.

Seems like he was told to give pags a one year tryout by irsay. Seems like ballard is a no-shit straight laced guy. He is doing what he said and will evaluate pags at the end of the year. He relied on the whole colts staff and his own opinions on the draft and its not like the guys drafted are reaches that pags talked him into.

pags will F it up with inept coaching and ballard will bring in his guy from KC.

From your mouth, to Gods ears !!

Grigson's fatal flaw is that he never had a real vision for what this team should be. If Ballard can bring one thing to the mix, vision is the thing.

just wait until he sees pagano in action. he will clear the building

and every gm listens to the coordinators. of course he would. would be a failure not to. that is his fucking job

Pags is a dead man walking! He is one of the most incompetent head coaches I have ever seen.

I want Pags gone, but that seems pretty damn extreme.

"We’ve revamped the outside linebacker position. And I’ve made this clear — we will always look for rushers in the draft. You can never have enough."
Amen to that!

Not talking about his real life, talking about his coaching life. Should have made it clearer.

I'm going to get flamed big time for this but I think keeping Pagano is the right thing to do. Couple of reasons. First is the injury to Luck. Putting in a new offense without you qb to run thru it would be daunting. Second was the improved offensive line play the last half of the year. Third he never 'lost' the locker room. Most important, I don't know how many of you have ever worked for a total asshole. I have and am. I am a professional (38 years an obstetrician, recently went from private practice to working for a hospital) but it takes all I have to give good care working with the jerk who runs this hospital. What I do requires a team effort to work and when the top of the team is an ass it makes it impossible to do your best work. Get rid of the cancer at the top and everything works better. I am hoping that this is what happens to my Colts. What other choice is there anyway but to hope that Pagano shines in this new environment. But I must admit its hope, not belief.

Is it?

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We'll see how much Ballard still likes Clappy when the Colts show up week one at the Rams with no clue as to what the hell is going on and end up being down by 3 tds before realizing they're actually supposed to be playing football that day.

Your reason number one may very well be the only reason Irsay and Ballard kept Pagano. Knowing Luck was hurt and his availability in doubt, not right time... :cool:

That was one of the dumbest, most asinine plays I have ever witnessed. A complete and utter embarrassment. I mean who even practices a formation like that? The Traveling Chuckles Clown Show on full display there.

If you judge anyone by the worst decision of their career, you will find everyone incompetent, including the overly idolized cheater.

Still washing paganos balls I see

Not all worst decisions are created equal and some are so blatantly bad (like this one) that they should be held against someone for their entire career since it clearly shows their incompetence.

Perfectly played.

What compunds the level of stupidity if memory serves me correct is running the play with only one of the two players who had been practicing it. Whalen was subbed in wasn't he?

Problem here is you can actually go back and comprise a ranking of particularly bad decisions by Pagano that he then steadfastly defends after the game by stating he wouldn't change a thing. It's not single play calls however that will doom Pagano. It will be a and/or combination of poor game starts leading to large deficits or second half performances that show an inability to make effective adjustments withint the game itself.

If I recall correctly, I believe he was subbed in. Whalen at center and Colt Anderson at QB, now that's a winning combination. Pags sure fooled the Pats. Hell, even if they accomplished what they wanted with that stupid play, it would have been a penalty on the Colts for an illegal formation. Coaching at its finest.

This guy pretty much sums up how I felt after watching that botched trick play.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/10/...in-nfl-history

I heard Grigson got a job changing cultures at a yogurt factory.

Yeah he does. I love how it sums it up with:

Absolute and total coaching malpractice. I know people say a coach shouldn't be fired over one play, but this is the exception to that rule.

Fuck the pats!

The play was dumb as fuck but I like the fact Pagano was pulling out everything to beat those motherfuckers!

Next time leave the offense in and GO FOR IT!! Fuck them!!

It was fucking bizarre to watch. It was almost surreal, like I was in some sort of alternate drug induced universe that I couldn't fully comprehend. It's like the stupidity of the moment made time slow down. I do remember thinking, in a vein attempt to snap me back to reality thinking "ok, they'll call a timeout. That's fucking stupid and a waste of a timeout, but he couldn't possibly be absolutely stupid enough not to call one." And holy mother of fucks, he was. It was like a calming measure of disbelief when I saw it happened, only to be replaced by an angry wave of profanities that a coach could be so fucking worthless and incompetent to call a play like that, of which my wife came down to see what was inducing my rage.

I'd rank 4th and 2 and neglecting to take the points (twice) as worse decisions made by the cheater. Neglecting to take the points cost him an AFC Championship.

I've been a critic of Pagano for a long time. He's just not HC material. However, no matter who coaches the team this year, they're not ready for the SB. Pagano will once again fail, the Colts will get another top 15 draft position and by 2018, will be solid enough to possibly go all the way. Provided Ballard's selections perform as well as expected and he has another solid draft and signs a few free agents. Also, he gets a good HC.

I try not to look backwards in life too much, but could you imagine where we would be if someone like ballard had been hired when we first drafted luck? Most likely better drafting and FAs, probably no pagano, a better plan for how to construct the team around a very good, cost controlled QB. Man, where we could be right now....

I agree on the SB part, but this team was a game away from the playoffs last season, so a top 15 pick is not such a sure thing. I would not be surprised if we one the south buying Pags another shitty year to coach.

Yeah, hopefully Pagano's shitty coaching can lead to a lot more shitty division titles and shitty playoff appearances, a few shitty deep playoff runs, and maybe even some shitty Super Bowl wins. And everyone here can bitch about it the entire time. It'll be great.

You're sexually attracted to Pagano, aren't you?

No, but I am sick of the prevailing attitude around here that would prefer to see Pagano fail instead of the Colts succeed.

I don't want to see him fail, but his past record indicates he will fail. I want him gone.

His literal past record indicates the opposite, as he has an over .600 career winning percentage and is currently the 30th best coach all time in winning percentage. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

He also gets credit for one of the... nope. THE STUPIDEST PLAY INT HE HISTORY OF THE NFL!

Also the epic blow outs by the Pats and Steelers And he also gets credit for not getting above a 8-8 record last yr

But don't let those facts get in the way of YOUR argument

You have objectively demonstrated a measure of intelligence by your interest in stats, your ability to write clearly, some of your analysis. I don't believe you are actually a stupid person. But I do not understand why you choose to narrow the set of facts to only fit your chosen narrative and then pretend like you aren't doing it. Why be intentionally dense? You know just as well as everyone else that your winning percentage argument, and the implied conclusion that it justifies his coaching, is nonsense. Just stop it with this superior "I know better" shtick. The case against Pagano is well-established. Demanding that it be reproven to you is just a tactic meant to wear others down so you can appear right.

No one here hates Pagano. No one wants him to fail, that means the Colts fail and it's not logical to be a fan but want your team to fail. The fear you are mischaracterizing is that the increase in talent and competence in the front office will mask Pagano's incompetence and keep him in charge of the team despite his demonstrated lack of ability to handle it. You know this but you still set up straw men and then pretend you've won something by defeating them.

Sorry to write so much but I've had a few beers and am feeling verbose.