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1965southpaw 01-19-2018 12:38 PM

McDaniels / Luck partnership
 
In a season devoid of anything positive, it's nice to have something to look forward to. I hope this author's predictions come true and I hope this is just the first of many articles celebrating the accomplishment that may ome from a mcdaniels / Luck combo. If it doesn't, well I guess we know how to handle disappointment.

http://patriotswire.usatoday.com/201...he-next-level/


Much like a tailoring a suit, McDaniels will devise a system fitted just for Luck, who will look awfully comfortable — and awfully good on Sundays.

rcubed 01-19-2018 01:21 PM

I am excited to see what McD will do with our offense.

Brylok 01-19-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 52582)
I am excited to see what McD will do with our offense.

Using players' strengths alone would be better than anything Chud did. I still don't know what the overall scheme was supposed to be or accomplish. They just had no identity at all.

YDFL Commish 01-19-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 52619)
Using players' strengths alone would be better than anything Chud did. I still don't know what the overall scheme was supposed to be or accomplish. They just had no identity at all.

Run for 3 yds on 1st down, run for 1 yd on 2nd down, on 3rd down, run 3 receivers, 25 yds straight down the field, ignore the RB out of the backfield, O-Line gets rag dolled back into QB's face, QB waits 5 + sec. for somebody to get open, QB scrapes himself off the turf, Pag's pats QB on the ass, and says good job.

Have I summed up the scheme accurately?

Brylok 01-19-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 52624)
Run for 3 yds on 1st down, run for 1 yd on 2nd down, on 3rd down, run 3 receivers, 25 yds straight down the field straight down the field, ignore the RB out of the backfield, O-Line gets rag dolled back into QB's face, QB waits 5 + sec. for somebody to get open, QB scrapes himself off the turf, Pag's pats QB on the ass, and says good job.

Have I summed up the scheme accurately?

Exactly. We've seen more than enough of that shit.

rcubed 01-20-2018 11:40 AM

Courtesy of dan orlovsky


https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/sta...90099308097536

YDFL Commish 01-20-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 52667)

This is what will win for us...scheming players open. How often did you hear Pags, Chud or TY say "we gotta win our matchups"? That's hard to do in the 2.5 sec a QB should be getting rid of the ball.

DrSpaceman 01-21-2018 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 52624)
Run for 3 yds on 1st down, run for 1 yd on 2nd down, on 3rd down, run 3 receivers, 25 yds straight down the field, ignore the RB out of the backfield, O-Line gets rag dolled back into QB's face, QB waits 5 + sec. for somebody to get open, QB scrapes himself off the turf, Pag's pats QB on the ass, and says good job.

Have I summed up the scheme accurately?

Or throw a screen pass to Gore instead of the younger and faster Mack.

And don't forget clapping, lots of clapping.

After the game you go chop some wood for the next week

GoBigBlue88 01-21-2018 07:27 PM

Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.

Indiana V2 01-21-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52845)
Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.

Keep in mind the Jags defense is very good.

daedge 01-21-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 52846)
Keep in mind the Jags defense is very good.

Meh.

They got owned by Brady and Amendola after Gronk was gone.

The Jags' D can STFU.

Colt Classic 01-21-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52845)
Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.

They can keep McDaniels. Send back Brad Stevens instead. The Colts can find another coach elsewhere.

DrSpaceman 01-21-2018 07:42 PM

Guess we will have to wait a few more weeks.

Fuckin' pats and fuckin' Jagoffs. Finish the job

Puck 01-21-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52845)
Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.


Lost Gronk and Edelman isn't there this season and they really dont have any other superstars on offense and they still marched up and down the field on one of the best D's in the nfl

I will be very glad to have him here, If indeed he is the choice

Brylok 01-21-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 52870)
Lost Gronk and Edelman isn't there this season and they really dont have any other superstars on offense and they still marched up and down the field on one of the best D's in the nfl

I will be very glad to have him here, If indeed he is the choice

McDaniels is having a better day than Shurmur currently is. It's a roll of the dice, but I'm interested in seeing what McDaniels can do.

Chromeburn 01-22-2018 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52845)
Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.

That defense has superior athletes all over the field. They probably should have shut NE down. A regular offense and they do. The Steelers have an amazing offense and the best them, and shut them down in regular season. This is one of the few times I have seenwhereoffense actually trumped defense.

albany ed 01-22-2018 08:24 AM

The Jags won TOP and the turnover battle, and for 50 minutes, they were the best team on the field. Too bad the game lasted 60 minutes. I hate the fuck, but Brady is the best ever. 11 fourth quarter comebacks in the playoffs.

dwilli57 01-22-2018 08:57 AM

Fuck Brady and all the rest of those dicks. I'm so sick of watching them I almost don't want to watch the SB. If I could, I'd almost give up my 401(k) to watch the Iggles beat the living crap outta those cheaters.

Maniac 01-22-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52845)
Be curious to hear what you guys thought of McDaniels' gameplan today. VERY up and down, IMO. The ups were terrific. The lows were Chud-esque.

He probably also has a lot going on right now with prepping for the various playoff games while forming a coaching staff and evaluating the Colts roster and coming up with his plan for his new team.

GoBigBlue88 01-22-2018 10:31 AM

I loved McDaniels' patience in setting up plays he later went back to, and willingness to empty the bag. Patriots ran some ballsy plays they put a lot of work into setting up. That's a big plus for me.

But I can also see where some of that game looked Chud-esque in Patriots abandoning the run game and looking to throw 30+ yards downfield so often.

njcoltfan 01-22-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 52936)
I loved McDaniels' patience in setting up plays he later went back to, and willingness to empty the bag. Patriots ran some ballsy plays they put a lot of work into setting up. That's a big plus for me.

But I can also see where some of that game looked Chud-esque in Patriots abandoning the run game and looking to throw 30+ yards downfield so often.

I thought the Jags looked more like a Chud offense, in the second half especially,it seemed like every first down was Fournette up the middle !

HoosierinFL 01-22-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 52940)
I thought the Jags looked more like a Chud offense, in the second half especially,it seemed like every first down was Fournette up the middle !

Sure, but no way could they ride Bortles' arm the whole second half. Big problem was that they didn't get creative with the running game, they kept running the same plays that worked in the first half, but weren't working in the second half.

YDFL Commish 01-22-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 52947)
Sure, but no way could they ride Bortles' arm the whole second half. Big problem was that they didn't get creative with the running game, they kept running the same plays that worked in the first half, but weren't working in the second half.

My biggest problem w/the Jags offense, is that they had no deigned runs for Bortles in the game plan.

njcoltfan 01-22-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 52947)
Sure, but no way could they ride Bortles' arm the whole second half. Big problem was that they didn't get creative with the running game, they kept running the same plays that worked in the first half, but weren't working in the second half.

That’s the definition of Chuds offensive, keep running the same thing even though it’s not working!!!

FatDT 01-22-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 52955)
My biggest problem w/the Jags offense, is that they had no deigned runs for Bortles in the game plan.

Yeah I thought that was a mistake in the 2nd half especially. They seemed to call a scared game on offense starting with their last possession of the 2nd quarter.

rcubed 01-22-2018 02:34 PM

https://nypost.com/2018/01/21/ref-co...ergnet_2464915

Racehorse 01-22-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dwilli57 (Post 52921)
Fuck Brady and all the rest of those dicks. I'm so sick of watching them I almost don't want to watch the SB. If I could, I'd almost give up my 401(k) to watch the Iggles beat the living crap outta those cheaters.

I would, and not almost. Of course, if it were MY 401k, I probably wouldn't. Yours, on the other hand...

GoBigBlue88 01-22-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 52955)
My biggest problem w/the Jags offense, is that they had no deigned runs for Bortles in the game plan.

Amen. I was astonished. They had so many RPO plays designed with, like, an X out, a slot/back swing or screen and a QB-keeper. So some of that may have been on Bortles, but I think you gotta call a few deliberate QB draws or read-option keeps to soften up the middle of that defense they kept driving Fournette into.

Also weird that they buried Grant in the 2nd half...

Spike 01-22-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 52981)

Patriots only had one damn penalty the whole game. Refs let the Pats get away with murder every damn game.

Racehorse 01-22-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 53002)
Amen. I was astonished. They had so many RPO plays designed with, like, an X out, a slot/back swing or screen and a QB-keeper. So some of that may have been on Bortles, but I think you gotta call a few deliberate QB draws or read-option keeps to soften up the middle of that defense they kept driving Fournette into.

Also weird that they buried Grant in the 2nd half...

Teams always go into stupid mode against them. That is one reason some people are calling the NFL the new WWE.

HoosierinFL 01-22-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 52955)
My biggest problem w/the Jags offense, is that they had no deigned runs for Bortles in the game plan.

I was thinking that during the game last night. Romo kept saying they were gonna run out of play action possibilities, which meant the NE defense wasn't going to bite on the run too hard, so as soon as those LBs are ready to defend the pass, that's when you let Bortles loose on a designed run. He's decently mobile, he could have got a first down at some point. Hell, 1 first down in the 4th quarter for the Jags might have made the difference in the game.

Chromeburn 01-23-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 52947)
Sure, but no way could they ride Bortles' arm the whole second half. Big problem was that they didn't get creative with the running game, they kept running the same plays that worked in the first half, but weren't working in the second half.

Because Belicheat adjusts at the half. I wonder if some of these other coaches even do this. You almost have to have two game plans against them. One for each half. And you need to save your best stufffor the end when it is close. So man teams go up on them, then can't maintain the momentum.

Butter 01-23-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 53142)
Because Belicheat adjusts at the half. I wonder if some of these other coaches even do this. You almost have to have two game plans against them. One for each half. And you need to save your best stufffor the end when it is close. So man teams go up on them, then can't maintain the momentum.

So much this, teams figure you out in the first half, so flip the script in the second. It takes a well-trained team and slid execution by the staff to pull it off, and I am sure the cheating helps.

Brylok 01-24-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 53155)
So much this, teams figure you out in the first half, so flip the script in the second. It takes a well-trained team and slid execution by the staff to pull it off, and I am sure the cheating helps.

...and referees

sherck 01-24-2018 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 53163)
...and referees

Saw this stat but have not verified it:

In the past 16 seasons in NFL post-season play, there have been 175 games played between 350 teams. Of those 350 team efforts, only 3 times has a team only been flagged 1 or 2 times.

All three teams? The New England Cheaters.

On the sack play early on, when Tommy Cheater tried to create time by moving around in the collapsing pocket, I counted 3 separate holding penalities none of which were called. The Jags finally got the sack but I was expecting Tommy Cheater to find an open receiver and gain 20.

On Gronk's play where he was knocked out of the game, he pushed off his defender with no call. That play should have been off-setting.

This more than the social justice stuff is going to kill the sport. Fans will not come back if they think it is pre-determined WWE crud.

Walk Worthy,

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rcubed 02-01-2018 01:24 PM

Quotes from McD. What is this "adapting" he is talking about? Something about scheming to players strengths or some wacky philosophy...

“The biggest thing for us is adapting to what our players do and try to put them in as many successful positions as we can during the course of a game. I think sometimes the word ‘system’ is overused. The best thing for us is our foundation is broad enough that we can accommodate most players and then fit them in and figure out what we do well as a team and do it as many times as we can.”

“No play is good without good players who execute it,” McDaniels said. “We can all sit here and draw up a bunch of pretty-looking plays. The guys who win the play are the players. So, if you’re putting together some play or plan that they can’t execute, it’s a bad play or a bad plan.


https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ls/1085766001/

Colt Classic 02-01-2018 02:59 PM

He probably means that if he were here at the time Pagano first arrived, he would've made use of the best pass rushing duo this town has ever seen rather than try to turn them into coverage linebackers who occasionally blitz.

DrSpaceman 02-01-2018 11:51 PM

First question he should be asked is how he feels about wood chopping?

Mr. Session 02-02-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Colt Classic (Post 53960)
He probably means that if he were here at the time Pagano first arrived, he would've made use of the best pass rushing duo this town has ever seen rather than try to turn them into coverage linebackers who occasionally blitz.

Watching Freeney be the sole difference in New England's win over ATL in the superbowl had to be one of the most infuriating things I have ever seen in my life.

He was in Brady's ass the entire night until the Patriots literally told their TE to just double him every play.

Spike 02-02-2018 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 54014)
Watching Freeney be the sole difference in New England's win over ATL in the superbowl had to be one of the most infuriating things I have ever seen in my life.

He was in Brady's ass the entire night until the Patriots literally told their TE to just double him every play.

Yep, that pissed me off too. Pagano was nothing but a fucking idiot.


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