quick thoughts on getting blown out by the jags.....again
 

1) we got blown out by the jags. again. at home.

2) bortles looked like tom fucking brady. there is one team in the league that makes borltes look like tom brady. a pagano lead colts. a pagano lead defense constantly lets backup qb's or terrible qb's have career days. but have no fear. this is a well coached team. right dam? you fucking moron

3) what part of this team leads anyone to believe they are well coached. forget about execution. do they play a full 60 minutes? no. are they fundamentally sound? no. do they exploit weaknesses of the opponents? no. how exactly can anyone, and i open this up to anyone, explain how this is a well coached team? if you can make a solid argument that this team is well coached, and this board agrees that that was a sound argument, i will personally send you $100. not even joking. step up dam. if you prove it, i will send it. gladly

4) we all know the truth (except 2). this team is terrible. but the crux of the situation is the coaching. on defense they have no idea what to do. they miss tackles, they bite on playfakes, they blow assignments, before the snap they are confused. firing manusky was a huge mistake and just a complete sacrifice that pagano offered up to save his job. pagano is a piece of shit as a person to orchestrate this. manachino is a fucking disgrace.

5) brissett is a backup. i think he will eventually be better than he is showing but holy shit was he bad today. he had zero idea what to do with the ball. he stared at the rush instead of checking down. held the ball instead of throwing it away. and had poor pocket awareness.

6) chud sucks. he does nothing to help his olinemen or qb. and this isn't just a chud thing. pep didnt either. which speaks to a bigger problem of pagano but rumor is that pagano is hands off with the offense. so that has to be just a fucking crazy coincidence that both coordinators have zero idea how to handle a blitz.

chud seriosly couldn't even call a game to play field positioin. we were incapable at times of gaining a yard. 2nd and 2 and we run twice and get stuffed when we really need a 1st down. that is unacceptable.

7) stupid penalties all game long. just a stupidly poorly coached team

8) this team has no idea who can play. the coaches are clueless. aiken should not play. he is terrible. he does nothing well.

9) there is no way vagitch beat out haeg or clark for the lg spot. no way. that didn't happen. vagitch was atrocious

10) irsay has to fire pagano now. i am not a fan of in season firings but this can't continue

11) i am probably a bigger fan of vontae than anyone here but he was bad at times today. like he was disinterested

12) no way green beat out any other corner to start the season. pagano has no idea who is good

13) how is wilson sitting the bench? he can't use some time? he isn't better than milton?

14) what advantage do we gain by constantly splitting our rbs out wide? when does this ever turn into a good play? we do it constantly but to what gain?

15) pagano needs to explain how bostic and morrison are our best players at ilber. and ballard should weigh in as well.

16) we sure had a lot of money to spend this offseason and spent a lot. i said at the time and i say again, how did we upgrade the roster?

17) under pagano, this is a guarantee every week. the other teams offense will be in 3rd and short all day and the colts offense will be in 3rd and long all day.

18) we have years of evidence with multiple players, coaches and front office people and there remains 1 common theme. pagano. the team constantly gets worse.

19) pagano is the worst coach i have ever seen. this isnt merely a talent issue. what team has been blown out with as much regularity as a pagano coached team?

20) i am rambling because i am drunk and i hate pagano. i am over it. he seriously brings this team to new lows every single year.

oh by the way chud and pagano

we can't block the jags. might want to take that into account. morons

I hate to admit it, but Puck was right when he said firing Pep would not change things. I thought HE was the moron making the stupid calls, but it continued with his replacement, so it HAS to be Pagano.

Puck was talking out of his ass though. I don't know what to believe. Reporters say pagano is hands off but it looks the exact same.

It's a distinction without a difference as far as I'm concerned. Chuck hand picked Chud and Chud is Chuck's mini-me. At the end of the day both need to go.

#3- They won 2 games with this bullshit talent and a QB they just picked up

The fact they've won 2 games is a fucking miracle

the fact that they have won a single game under pagano period is a miracle. worst coach i have ever seen

He can only coach whats on the field Lucks situation has destroyed the season

perhaps post of the year. Btw, I salute you for drinking early. I haven't
been able to bring myself to do it during the noon games but I might
start. Maybe a reasonable compromise would be to smoke a doobie
and then start drinking.
If Irsay does pull the trigger who do you like as interim coach? I think
the OC and DC are woeful too so maybe that leaves Philbin as the last man
standing?

honestly a point by point break down is pointless at this point. We sucked in every single phase of the game except maybe the RBs (and then only when used correctly).
Pagano has to go before the morale gets even worse, and the fan base goes with it.

i think you make shotty the hc. see if he can get some semblance of an offence going. the defense is fucked with munchichi calling plays. chud can't call a good offensive game so i don't think he needs more on his plate

Exactly, Irsay risks losing some of the fan base that may lose interest, especially if they don't think he's committed to winning, and they may not come back next season. If they fire Pagano now the fans will rally around this team, because there's actually hope for the future.

Firing Pagano isn't going to get fans back without Luck, it will be like waving the towel on the season

Pagano waves that towel every week.

So you honestly don't think there aren't 1000's of people that have said until Irsay fires Pagano I'm not buying a ticket ?

Is it Pagano or the players?

The longer Luck is out and the more they lose the more guys will shut it down thinking about their future and not risking injury for a bullshit season

No because they already bought tickets this year

Luck is what brings the fans not the coach

Not sure if you know it yet but you could've bought a ticket to today's game for 7.00.

Plenty of empty seats today.

Yeah empty re sale tickets

Yup, clearly nothing is Pagano's fault. It's all on the players. Yup. Case closed. Move on.

Seriously, go fuck yourself.

I'm saying it goes both ways, you can't tell me guys aren't laying down as a business decision feeling like the season is lost without Luck

The main reason this seasonis fucked is Luck's injury not Pagano let's be real here

Yes I can tell you that because the players making shitty plays -- like Chris Milton or TJ Green -- shouldn't be on the fucking field in the first place.

I can also tell you that because the defense literally has no idea what to do when the ball is snapped.

Or because the players are currently fighting each other.

Or because this team lacks pee wee football technique.

Or...

If Pagano was a good coach he wouldn't have to rely so heavily on Andrew Luck to win games, he should actually, you know, coach the team he has, and get them prepared to play, and hold them accountable, and not accept them lying down because they don't have Luck. Your argument is terrible if you are supporting Chuck only because he doesn't have Andrew Luck.

I honestly think both share culpability. Grigson and Pags put together a talent poor roster that cannot be corrected in one year. Grigson must take most of the blame for that. Pags must shoulder the blame for who he chooses to play each week as well as how much time they see the field and in what role. Execution on the part of the players has been poor for the most part. They must carry that responsibility but certainly any decent coach recognizes execution is also a reflection of coaching, good or bad. It seems quite obvious to me that there are both a lack of in game adjustments as well as player accountability and that rests squarely on the coaches shoulders. Undeniably this is a better team with Luck under center but it would also be undeniable that this team would be far better off with most current NFL coaches were they on our sideline. My opinion has not changed, Irsay should have gotten rid of both Grigson AND Pagano last year. Removing the undesirables on the roster will take some more time but Pags should be gone already. Based on your posts I imagine we will have to agree to disagree.

At least paGONEnow didn't blow another halftime lead

Nope.... He just blew

That makes it Pagano's job to keep the team. These are professional athletes making a shitload of money!

With Luck we're still shit.... not even good shit, we're runny loose hungover binged on White Castle shit...

And instead of Luck on the sideline he is getting the sh** beat out of him.

tell that to hooker.

He's won games without Luck

The backup QB situation was a trainwreck, what they've done with Brissett is impressive to me. We're lucky to have any wins with the circumstances the way they were

guys are laying down? what guys? what guys on this roster are comfortable enough to do that?

explain that to me. explain what guys are laying down?

Vontae, Doyle (though he may just be overly concussed), and Moncrief.

Obviously Moncrief and Davis are the obvious choices and the more the losses pile up the more guys will make business decisions for next year

Because the best business decision is to look like garbage in a contract year? :eek:

Exactly

I love how some fat dude sitting on his ass questions guys laying down on the job. Does anyone really think Doyle wants to play like that? Moncrief doesn't want to perform well and get paid? And Davis hasn't even been bad.

You are truly a stupid person

People are taking Davis' first game back from injury and not seeing the improvement he's made since.

trade him immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

i really don't understand the hate davis has always gotten since he got here. he isn't revis, but he has always been good. sure he has had bad games but so did peyton manning.

davis gives up a pass and people lose their minds