AR to miss minicamp with injury to AC Joint in Throwing Shoulder
 

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-an...houlder-injury

So, who do we the the new GM and HC will be? And what number do you think Arch is going to wear?

Fucking Ballard.

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http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/show...highlight=Arch

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It isn't Ballard or Steichen's fault that AR is made of paper mache and masking tape.

Arch Manning is never going to be a Colt. Hell, I doubt the Manning family would let him.

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

Just saw this news myself and first thought was whether the shit will now roll downhill and stop with Anthony being shown the door sooner rather than later.

I was really hoping he would turn it all around this season in any case but the injury bugs seems to stick with him IMHO. :(

Me, too. I don't have much hope for him though. Daniel Jones is probably our starter.
The Brown thing is more interesting to me, as he was the biggest AR supporter prior to that draft. "Purple-spotted unicorn" and everything. I remember those videos. Now he's suddenly gone at the same time as this AR news. Hmm.

Yeah, it’s time to move on.

AR is the worst of both worlds. Inconsistent AND injury prone.

If one doesn’t get him, the other inevitably does.

AR is going to get beat out by Jones, no matter his injury status. Jone is just the better player, it's that simple.

The only way that Ballard saves face in the drafting of AR is they move him to TE and he becomes an All-Pro at that position. Both scenarios are highly unlikely.

As fro Morocco Brown...perhaps his dumping was Carlie first official act as Owner.

Also, I just heard Kent Sterling mention that there is a buzz in the Colts complex that Carlie has put people on notice.

I'm not sure that Arch will leave Texas early.

Ballard's scapegoat

Jamarcus Russell
Akili Smith
Anthony Richardson

Abundant talent from the neck down.

This is why the Colts should have drafted Dillion Gabriel or Will Howard! AR is a bust and the sooner they accept it the sooner we can get out of the cellar of the AFC South.

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

He’s done, Trey Lance 2.0

Agreed. With Indiana Jones at QB, the 2025 Colts will win 7-9 games, miss the playoffs or get in and be 1 and done.

The year to tank for Arch is NEXT season in 2026. Clean house, new GM, new HC, sell on veterans so the new managment can start roster construction how they think they need to in order to support a 2027 rookie QB.

As I stated in another post:

2026 SELL:

Pittman - $24.0m cap savings - 29 years old - 1 year left on contract
Buckner - $15.8m cap savings - 32 years old - 1 year left on contract
Nelson - $18.0m cap savings - 30 years old - 1 year left on contract
Taylor - $13.0m cap savings - 27 years old - 1 year left on contract
Stewart - $12.3m cap savings - 33 years old - 1 year left on contract
Moore - $10.0m cap savings - 31 years old - 1 year left on contract

By trading the above folks, we increase the Colts 2026 free cap space from $71.6m to $164.7m in order for the new GM to start shaping a younger team to help a new rookie QB in 2027 plus able to use the draft picks trading those players would bring.

This is actually a really good comparison. Minimal experience in college, all world talent, but unable to stay healthy enough to develop that talent.

AR's injury definitely sucks. Was hoping (as I'm sure we all were) that AR would make some significant strides w/ a healthy offseason. Suppose we'll be finding out whether or not Jones' immense struggles at NYG was mainly due to surrounding talent or not.

As far as drafting Arch:

- He has 3 years of eligibility remaining, no monetary needs for himself or his family, plenty of NIL money coming in even if that weren't the case, and a family history of not leaving college early. So it's unlikely he'll be in the draft until at least 2027 if not 2028. Maybe if he wins a national championship and the Heisman in '25 and/or '26 then he comes out early, but anything short of that then my guess is he doesn't.

- Even if Arch does leave for the draft in '26 the Colts will probably not be bad enough to be in position to draft him. I suppose another 2022 implosion could happen, but that's pretty unlikely.

Definitely interesting. I wonder if there's been a rift between Ballard and Brown w/ Ballard shifting to drafting more based on performance rather than solely based on physical traits.

That’s true but if I remember correctly, no one here wanted Baker at the time.

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This reminds me of a prediction that I made for the Orioles in a 3-game series that they had with the Boston Red Sox 2010, which went as follows ......


"The Orioles currently have a record of 4-18, which is the worst in all of baseball. They have not had a winning season in more than a decade. The Red Sox are one of the best teams in all of baseball, and they have not had a losing season in more than a decade. The Red Sox have better starting pitching than the Orioles, better relief pitching than the Orioles, and a better offense than the Orioles. In addition to all of that, Oriole Park has become known as "Fenway South" because almost half of the fans in the stadium root for the Red Sox when they play the Orioles there, even though the stadium is in Baltimore ...... so based of all of that, I think that the Orioles will sweep all 3 games from the Red Sox."


Sure enough, the Orioles swept all 3 games from the Red Sox.


https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...e-scores.shtml

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That's right. I mentioned him once, quickly got shot down, and we moved on. Nobody was making a case for him here.

That particular decision was Jim Irsay's. Jim really, really wanted Matt Ryan as QB.

Actually I think that a lot of the QB1 decisions over the last few years have been made by Irsay...which I don't think is surprising or that unusual. I believe there are many owners that get involved in the QB1 decision if that position is unsettled.

Each NFL team is valued at a minimum of 4 billion dollars. The QB1 position is usually the face of the franchise, someone who may command a $40 million per year contract (currently half the teams in the league pay a QB $40 million per year). So not surprising that a owner will want to be involved in the process or ultimately make the final decision.

And I think this is one reason why Jim graded Ballard on a curve...because Jim was making the QB1 decision.

And with Jim's passing...someone else will be making the QB1 decisions going forward.

I actually think that DJ will win 10 or 11 games as the Colts QB. But maybe, just maybe it's more of a hope than a projection.

Go Colts.

If he can be a game manager, he could do that. I think he could be better for us than Wentz, because he will be less likely to play hero ball.

Aside from the QB position, I think the Colts remaining 54 are better than the other 3 AFC South teams. Would you agree? disagree?

That's funny, I just heard an analyst two days ago phrase it similarly. Basically saying the Colts have one of the better 2-through-53 rosters in the league, but never have a QB.

The holes we have are depth spots at a couple of positions, which is not what fans of most teams think of when they talk about "holes."

Isn't much being made of nothing here?
What I've seen is that he's got soreness, which also happened last year around this time didn't it?
It is likely just a lingering side effect of structural changes to his shoulder after Aaron Donald crushed it.

At most he probably needs rest and will be at 100% soon enough.

He most likely also needs someone to manage his off season throwing and workout routine to both keep his shoulder in shape to minimize these sprains when the intensity picks up, but also to minimize fatigue and wear & tear.

He probably wasn't doing much until a couple of months ago when the Colts signed Jones. Then, he started throwing a lot when he realized he was in a competition for the starting role. I agree he needs someone to manage his off season workouts. He's a natural talent and doesn't seem to have a clue on how to train.

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That could be the case ...... somewhat similar to a pitcher in baseball having UCL surgery, and then having his throwing/pitching carefully monitored for a year or 2 after coming back from the surgery.

Either way, we'll find out soon enough.

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We've heard this story before. Dude is done

https://x.com/ColtsFilmRoom/status/1...95491095421053

Yeah, there wasn't much support either here or elsewhere for us to trade for Baker. In hindsight it definitely looks like bringing him in would have been the best move. IMO though he would have struggled here w/ our OL being such a shit show that year (to be fair almost anyone would have), which would have likely turned into a short stay similar to the one he had in Carolina.

Oh fuck. Yeah, he's done :cool:. Hope Jones is up for a Darnoldesque turn around.

Well, I guess that means it's time for Danny Dimes to displace defensive deficiencies disturbingly deftly deciding definitively destinies of diligent disciple dart-throwers desperate to define the days developing.

In other words, get ready for the March for Arch.

Once again, once over and over, and over and over...

This organization just completely botches the injury reporting process. Never seen anything like it with any other organization.

"just some soreness, we're gonna be a little cautious to just give it some rest; we expect him to be fully ready for training camp"

"clinically speaking, the young man is very close to death and will never be able to lift his arm from his waist because his shoulder is destroyed and he could easily die tomorrow from the extent of the injury".

Just don't understand how this franchise has been this bad with injury PR for decades now.

I always knew you liked the D

The QB's name starts with a D, I was just going for the alliteration.

Stephen Holder reporting that the Colts are bringing Desmond Ridder in for a tryout this week. Make of that what you will.

Yikes

He sucks!

For those of you who are concerned about AR's future with this team go to around 26.10 point of this video, when Carlie says if Anthony wants it?

https://www.colts.com/video/indianap...ess-conference

This is a clear insinuation that AR is just happy to be in the NFL, and that greatness and winning are not part of his mindset.

Man enough with the excuses for this dude… didn’t he just go workout with Josh Allen’s guy? Guess he didn’t teach him anything about throwing through pain.

Him missing any time is valuable right now I don’t care, he should be building chemistry with Tyler Warren from day 1 and all throughout the off season.

He doesn’t suck, I’d take him over Richardson as my backup right now