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Kray007 04-09-2025 12:14 PM

Shadeur Sanders
 
As bizarre as it might seem, if he gets past NY, he might go into free fall. If he’s there at 14, do you pull the trigger?

apballin 04-09-2025 04:08 PM

Fuck no

ukcolt 04-10-2025 09:01 AM

He's a 2nd round talent in my mind. Someone who will probably be an NFL starter, but on the lower end, a Geno Smith or Teddy Bridgewater type of player.

We have two players on the roster who i believe are better talents.

I would prefer to grab Quinn Ewers in the 4th or 5th round. He has some upside to develop, but i am happy to stick with Richardson, Jones and Bean. Although i don't think Bean is ready to play in the NFL as a starting QB.

Chromeburn 04-19-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 323185)
As bizarre as it might seem, if he gets past NY, he might go into free fall. If he’s there at 14, do you pull the trigger?

Shadeur will be ok. Don’t listen to all the hype and nonsense. He’s mature, works hard, has good accuracy and his arm is good enough. Give him a line and he will be able to get you down the field. He won’t be a world breaker but he will be pretty good.

omahacolt 04-24-2025 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 323197)
Fuck no

what this guy said

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2025 10:42 AM

At this point, I wouldn’t mind the Colts taking him. Why not take a flyer on a guy like this?

It’s not like our qb room is hall of fame material.

HoosierinFL 04-26-2025 10:45 AM

5th round no sooner but also, its likely he brings too much media attention and/or distraction, so no.

YDFL Commish 04-26-2025 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 324011)
5th round no sooner but also, its likely he brings too much media attention and/or distraction, so no.

We don't need the circus atmosphere in the locker room, nor the interference from Deion.

We already have a two headed QB controversy.

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 324011)
5th round no sooner but also, its likely he brings too much media attention and/or distraction, so no.

I’m about 80 percent sure our qb of the future, the one who we could win a Super Bowl with, is not currently on the roster.

Sanders has talent. He’s a 70 percent completion guy.

Who gives a shit about the distractions?

Draft Sanders, cut Jones, and let them compete. Or let all 3 of them compete.

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2025 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 324013)
We don't need the circus atmosphere in the locker room, nor the interference from Deion.

We already have a two headed QB controversy.

At this point, the guy is going to have an ENORMOUS chip on his shoulder to prove everyone wrong.

I really think the Colts should take him if he’s still available.

Spike 04-26-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 323218)
He's a 2nd round talent in my mind. Someone who will probably be an NFL starter, but on the lower end, a Geno Smith or Teddy Bridgewater type of player.

We have two players on the roster who i believe are better talents.

I would prefer to grab Quinn Ewers in the 4th or 5th round. He has some upside to develop, but i am happy to stick with Richardson, Jones and Bean. Although i don't think Bean is ready to play in the NFL as a starting QB.

Well, it's the 4th round now, and nobody appears to want his ass. He and his dad have turned a lot of people off with their bullshit.

omahacolt 04-26-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 324015)
At this point, the guy is going to have an ENORMOUS chip on his shoulder to prove everyone wrong.

I really think the Colts should take him if he’s still available.

he isn't good

YDFL Commish 04-26-2025 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 324033)
he isn't good

I wouldn't say he isn't good. I would say his floor is Tyrod Taylor and his ceiling is Geno Smith.

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2025 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 324033)
he isn't good

Apparently not. So how the hell was he being mentioned as the number 1 overall pick?

Is the Deon factor that big?

nate505 04-26-2025 02:17 PM

I wouldn't object to him from this round on. His talent is more than a 5th rounder, and maybe this whole experience will both humble him and light a fire under him.

nate505 04-26-2025 02:23 PM

Welp, it's a moot point now. The Browns finally got him in the 5th round.

From the reports I've heard he didn't want to play there initially. Granted, who can blame anyone for not waiting to play for the Browns or to be in Cleveland, but still, that's really funny.

CletusPyle 04-26-2025 03:07 PM

I have no idea what Cleveland is doing? They must be going to trade one of those rookie QBs?

IndyNorm 04-26-2025 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 324057)
Welp, it's a moot point now. The Browns finally got him in the 5th round.

From the reports I've heard he didn't want to play there initially. Granted, who can blame anyone for not waiting to play for the Browns or to be in Cleveland, but still, that's really funny.

Yeah, I just wonder how many teams Deion pissed off early on by telling them to not draft Shaduer. I'm guessing that's the biggest reason why he dropped all of the way to the 5th.

nate505 04-26-2025 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 324065)
Yeah, I just wonder how many teams Deion pissed off early on by telling them to not draft Shaduer. I'm guessing that's the biggest reason why he dropped all of the way to the 5th.

He definitely was a big part of his draft stock falling.

That said, Shedeur didn't do himself any favors either, and apparently was a horrible interview who was disinterested. Seems like the perfect mix to drive a guy with some decent talent way down.

IndyNorm 04-26-2025 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 324078)
He definitely was a big part of his draft stock falling.

That said, Shedeur didn't do himself any favors either, and apparently was a horrible interview who was disinterested. Seems like the perfect mix to drive a guy with some decent talent way down.

Yeah, saw the interview stuff as well. If true then that definitely hurt his draft stock big time as well.

Racehorse 04-26-2025 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 324064)
I have no idea what Cleveland is doing? They must be going to trade one of those rookie QBs?

Shit is brown, so Browns gotta do Browns stuff.

Racehorse 04-29-2025 07:27 AM

Just curious what others think of the Sanders ordeal.

Was he drafted too high, too low, or just right? i mean, not to the right team, because we all know that he was.

Also, what do you make of the prank call?

sherck 04-29-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 324229)
Just curious what others think of the Sanders ordeal.

Was he drafted too high, too low, or just right? i mean, not to the right team, because we all know that he was.

Also, what do you make of the prank call?

A. I think his college stats and some highlight film I watched show someone who has the game and physical potential to succeed at the pro level.

B. I think that his father did him no favors with his behavior and catering the entire offense to fit his play style. Who knows if he can adapt to someone else's play style?

C. I think that, if true, the rumors of his poor attitude and diva-like personality drove his draft stock WAY the heck down.

D. I think that the media thinking they know better than the NFL professionals about the player potential of anyone is fraught with peril and listening to them is silly.

E. I think the prank call sucked. Life is too short to go out of your way to intentionally cause pain to someone else.

F. I think that he was probably drafted a bit low for the performance he showed in college but that it was modified by the attitude he also allegedly showed.

G. I think that, if he can be healthy with how he channels all the negativity around his draft status, that he could play with a good chip on his shoulder and show all his doubters that they were wrong. However, the general curse that surrounds all thing CLE football will probably not allow that to happen.

Colts And Orioles 04-29-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 324229)



Just curious what others think of the Sanders ordeal.





o


A) l I think that Sanders has the talent to be a good, or maybe even a very good starting QB in the NFL.


B) l Whether or not that talent will bring such a career to fruition remains to be seen.


C) l Easy to say, not necessarily easy to do ...... Sanders needs to completely shut out anything that his father has said about him, anything that the media has said about him, anything that the fans have said about him, and go about his business of making the team for the Cleveland Browns (and perhaps becoming their starting QB.)

o

CletusPyle 04-29-2025 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 324237)
A. I think his college stats and some highlight film I watched show someone who has the game and physical potential to succeed at the pro level.

B. I think that his father did him no favors with his behavior and catering the entire offense to fit his play style. Who knows if he can adapt to someone else's play style?

C. I think that, if true, the rumors of his poor attitude and diva-like personality drove his draft stock WAY the heck down.

D. I think that the media thinking they know better than the NFL professionals about the player potential of anyone is fraught with peril and listening to them is silly.

E. I think the prank call sucked. Life is too short to go out of your way to intentionally cause pain to someone else.

F. I think that he was probably drafted a bit low for the performance he showed in college but that it was modified by the attitude he also allegedly showed.

G. I think that, if he can be healthy with how he channels all the negativity around his draft status, that he could play with a good chip on his shoulder and show all his doubters that they were wrong. However, the general curse that surrounds all thing CLE football will probably not allow that to happen.




I was going to say he may be able to use this to motivate himself and personally I hope he does, I hope he proves them all wrong and hopefully a few rare honest media people will do the "I told you so" for him!

IndyNorm 04-29-2025 07:17 PM

I actually was feeling a little sorry for him until I read about him blowing off all of his interview prep and then acting like a total entitled douche when the teams he interviewed w/ called him out on it. He's actually lucky to get drafted when he did.

I do agree the prank call was out of line. Total shit move by the guys who did it.


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