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Kray007 12-04-2024 02:07 PM

Anthony Richardson’s last 3 games per PFF
 
I know that PFF’s analytics have flaws, but they are what they are, and I thought that I would just toss them out there for, in the words of Rod Serling, your consideration.

Over the past three games, since he returned as a starter, his passing grades have been:

80.3 against the Jets
77.9 vs Detroit
72.9 against the hated weasels from Foxboro.

For comparison, over the same span:

Joe Burrow has gone: 68.6, 72.0, 85.5
For Lamar Jackson: 57.5, 75.2, and 74.4
Justin Herbert: 75.8, 73.2, and 68.7
Patrick Mahomes: 73.3 72.6, 72.1
And Josh Allen: 70.0, 83.7, and 73.3

This might well be case that Mark Twain had in mind when he said: “There are lies, damned lies, and statistics,” I don’t know. I do know, however, that to my tired old eyes, Richardson has looked like a different quarterback than the one who first stepped foot into Colts camp last season. We can only hope that the improvement we’ve seen proves to be more substantial that a mirage. Hope springs eternal.

albany ed 12-05-2024 07:21 AM

I'm hopeful he can keep improving. It needs to happen soon though because the way he runs, he may not be in the league when he's 30.

Mr. Session 12-05-2024 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 314133)
I'm hopeful he can keep improving. It needs to happen soon though because the way he runs, he may not be in the league when he's 30.

It's fun as shit to watch but I am right there with you.

Cam Newton was unlike any quarterback I've ever seen and his drop off was HARD. I partly blame Carolina for that, but Cam played hard.

Colts And Orioles 12-05-2024 03:48 PM

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Statistic )))))))))))llllllllllllllllllll Weeks 1-8 lllllllllllllllllllll.) Weeks 11-13


Drop-backs )))))))))))))))))))llllll 100 ))))))))))))))))))).llllllll 51

Completion % )))))))))))))))t,llll 48.4% ))))))))))))))))))tllll 60%

Yards/Attempt )))))))))))))))tlllllll 7.4 ))))))))))))))))))tlllllllll 7.4

Passer Rating )))))))))))))))))tllll 57.9 ))))))))))))))))))))tllll 96.1

Touchdowns )))))))))))))))))))))ttll 2 ))))))))))))))))))))))t.lllll 2

Interceptions ))))))))))))))))).,,llllll 5 ))))))))))))))))))))))t.lllll 0

Average Time to Throw ))))))llllll 2.64 )))))))))))))))))t,,llllll 2.33

PFF Pass Grade ))))))))))t..llllllllll 51.2 ))))))))))))))))t,lllllllll 93.3



SOURCE: ) J.J. Stankevitz


https://www.colts.com/news/5-colts-t...offensive-line

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Colts And Orioles 03-26-2025 04:47 PM

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(LATE MARCH, 2025)


I'm still in Richardson's corner, warts and all.

YDFL Commish l recently pointed out that very few people believed in Terry Bradshaw and Bert Jones after their first 2 seasons in the NFL, and I think that that's a great point.

Perhaps the high point of his entire 2024 campaign was when he literally willed the Colts' offense to the game-winning TD-drive along with the subsequent 2-point conversion against the Patriots late in the season ...... on the 2-point conversion, everybody in the solar system probably knew that he was going to run the ball himself ...... and yet he still powered forward, straight into the Patriots' defensive line and across the goal-line for the game-winning play.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygsfkUQicdM

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albany ed 03-26-2025 05:02 PM

I think all Colts fans are in AR's corner. Daniel Jones could end up being a serviceable QB, but not much more than that and that will not lead to post season success. AR has not even come near what his potential could be. He may never do that, but then again?????

As Colts fans, we would all love to see him soar and take this franchise to great heights.

apballin 03-27-2025 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 322664)
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(LATE MARCH, 2025)


I'm still in Richardson's corner, warts and all.

YDFL Commish l recently pointed out that very few people believed in Terry Bradshaw and Bert Jones after their first 2 seasons in the NFL, and I think that that's a great point.

Perhaps the high point of his entire 2024 campaign was when he literally willed the Colts' offense to the game-winning TD-drive along with the subsequent 2-point conversion against the Patriots late in the season ...... on the 2-point conversion, everybody in the solar system probably knew that he was going to run the ball himself ...... and yet he still powered forward, straight into the Patriots' defensive line and across the goal-line for the game-winning play.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygsfkUQicdM

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A game where a guy has 100 yards passing and 2 interceptions 50 percent completion percentage… your like Rocky in Apollos corner when he’s fighting Drago….. throw the dam towel!!!!

Lov2fish 03-27-2025 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322688)
A game where a guy has 100 yards passing and 2 interceptions 50 percent completion percentage… your like Rocky in Apollos corner when he’s fighting Drago….. throw the dam towel!!!!

The apologist will grasp any small nugget to hang onto. I said from day 1, wasted pick and 100% a bust. His previous tape prior to the draft shows who we were getting, and it was a spot on. He is not an NFL QB and that is a factual. A case of can't see the forest through the trees.

Colts And Orioles 03-27-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322688)



A game where a guy has 100 yards passing, 2 interceptions, and a 50 percent completion percentage ...… you're like Rocky in Apollo Creed's corner when he’s fighting Ivan Drago ….... throw the dam towel !!!




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As I also stated in my post, the Steelers and the the Colts didn't throw in the towel after Terry Bradshaw's and Bert Jones' first 2 seasons ...... in both of those cases (especially Bradshaw's), they were worse than Richardson was.

So yes, you are correct in pointing out that Richardson did not play well overall in that particular game against the Patriots ...... but the bigger picture is more long-sighted than that. 2024 was Richardson's first full season in the NFL, after playing a total of 20 games in the NCAA.

This is from a previous post of mine, and is a better example of Richardson's improvement from earlier in the season. Richardson may or may not not sustain that improvement, but I believe that it is indeed still too early to throw him away.



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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 314166)
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Statistic )))))))))))llllllllllllllllllll Weeks 1-8 lllllllllllllllllllll.) Weeks 11-13


Drop-backs )))))))))))))))))))llllll 100 ))))))))))))))))))).llllllll 51

Completion % )))))))))))))))t,llll 48.4% ))))))))))))))))))tllll 60%

Yards/Attempt )))))))))))))))tlllllll 7.4 ))))))))))))))))))tlllllllll 7.4

Passer Rating )))))))))))))))))tllll 57.9 ))))))))))))))))))))tllll 96.1

Touchdowns )))))))))))))))))))))ttll 2 ))))))))))))))))))))))t.lllll 2

Interceptions ))))))))))))))))).,,llllll 5 ))))))))))))))))))))))t.lllll 0

Average Time to Throw ))))))llllll 2.64 )))))))))))))))))t,,llllll 2.33

PFF Pass Grade ))))))))))t..llllllllll 51.2 ))))))))))))))))t,lllllllll 93.3



SOURCE: ) J.J. Stankevitz


https://www.colts.com/news/5-colts-t...offensive-line

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apballin 03-27-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 322701)
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As I also stated in my post, the Steelers and the the Colts didn't throw in the towel after Terry Bradshaw's and Bert Jones' first 2 seasons ...... in both of those cases (especially Bradshaw's), they were worse than Richardson was.

So yes, you are correct in pointing out that Richardson did not play well overall in that particular game against the Patriots ...... but the bigger picture is more long-sighted than that. 2024 was Richardson's first full season in the NFL, after playing a total of 20 games in the NCAA.

This is from a previous post of mine, and is a better example of Richardson's improvement from earlier in the season. Richardson may or may not not sustain that improvement, but I believe that it is indeed still too early to throw him away.





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Those stats mean nothing to me, weeks 1-8 he left 1 game before halftime and then missed 2 games after that. So in the first 8 weeks he played 5 and a half games which was concluded with the tap out debacle.

So let’s get into weeks 11-13

Jets was his best game all season but it was his return after the tap out so he responded well for 1 game ill give you that.

Week 12 was the Lions and I’d hardly call that a good game, the only thing he did effective was run the ball and yet and still he accounted for zero TDs.

Week 13 was the Patriots game which I’ve already touched on.

So let’s pickup the weeks you seem not interested in 15 and 16

15 - broncos, 170 yards and 2 INTs he did have 46 yards rushing and a TD, the only thing they could get working that game was JT and he nearly carried us to the playoffs singlehanded

16- His final game due to a back injury since middle school…. He went a whopping 7-11 131 1td 1 int. Once again JT put the team on his back 29 fuckin carries for 218 yards and 3 tds

17-18 DNP Back

The jets game was an anomaly the entire staff knew it and that’s why they started leaning on JT similar to the end of the Wentz season.

Hurt at every level and has only played QB since high school and plays the position with a diva WR mentality

YDFL Commish 03-27-2025 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322717)

15 - broncos, 170 yards and 2 INTs he did have 46 yards rushing and a TD, the only thing they could get working that game was JT and he nearly carried us to the playoffs singlehanded

Taylor vs Broncos: 20-for 107, with the criticaly most retarded fumble in NFL history...which totally changed the momentum of the game.

Taylor vs Giants: Do people realize that made 4 embarrassing mistakes in last weeks game alone?

1. Forgot the play and forgot the ball when Flacco tried to hand off.
2. Forgot to turn around for the ball and the pass hits him in the helmet.
3. Ran out of bounds (untouched) 1 yd short of the first down on 3rd down.
4. dropped a simple lateral from 2 yds. away on the 2-point conversion.

I think it would be more accurate to say that Taylor prevented the embarrassment of this team being in the playoffs.

apballin 03-27-2025 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 322719)
Taylor vs Broncos: 20-for 107, with the criticaly most retarded fumble in NFL history...which totally changed the momentum of the game.

Taylor vs Giants: Do people realize that made 4 embarrassing mistakes in last weeks game alone?

1. Forgot the play and forgot the ball when Flacco tried to hand off.
2. Forgot to turn around for the ball and the pass hits him in the helmet.
3. Ran out of bounds (untouched) 1 yd short of the first down on 3rd down.
4. dropped a simple lateral from 2 yds. away on the 2-point conversion.

I think it would be more accurate to say that Taylor prevented the embarrassment of this team being in the playoffs.

Give Taylor a halfway competent QB that doesn’t make dumbass turnovers and the Colts can beat anyone. The team goes as Taylor goes, he makes ARs job even easier or whoever the QB is gonna be. Complete the short passes, utilize play action, control the clock, most importantly don’t turn the fuckin ball over.

That was a fucking TD

YDFL Commish 03-27-2025 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322723)
Give Taylor a halfway competent QB that doesn’t make dumbass turnovers and the Colts can beat anyone. The team goes as Taylor goes, he makes ARs job even easier or whoever the QB is gonna be. Complete the short passes, utilize play action, control the clock, most importantly don’t turn the fuckin ball over.

That was a fucking TD

Edge or even Addai do not do anything so stupid. If we deem JT's situational awareness as acceptable, then my god, what low standards we now have!

Colts And Orioles 03-27-2025 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322717)





So let’s pickup the weeks you seem not interested in, 15 and 16.




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Let’s pickup the subject that you seem not interested in ...... Bert Jones and Terry Bradshaw.

As I stated earlier, both Jones and Bradshaw were awful in the first 2 years ...... in fact, Bradshaw was bad for FOUR years between 1970 and 1973. In fact, he was bad enough that Chuck Noll started Joe Gilliam in the first 6 games of the 1974 season after Gilliam played better than Bradshaw in the pre-season. Even though Gilliam didn't play that badly, Noll had an instinct that Bradshaw was his man for the long-term, so he reinstated him as the starting QB in the 7th game of the 14-game season. In the first Super Bowl that the Steelers won, Bradshaw was not a factor, as it was all Franco Harris and the Steelers' defense that carried the day to beat the Vikings. But in the next 3 Super Bowls (1975, 1978, and 1979) Bradshaw shined, especially in the final 2 Super Bowls in which he won back-to-back MVP's.

So ...... how many Steelers fans were screaming to "throw in the damned towel" in regard to getting rid of Terr Bradshaw in those first 5 seasons between 1970 and 1974 ??? A lot. In fact, most of them. The fans didn't get their way, Noll made what HE THOUGHT were the right moves, and the rest is history.

Bert Jones had a similar story to Bradshaw with a an awful start to his career, except that he only had 2 very bad season in 1973 and 1974 before he started to shine in 1975, and then won the MVP of the league in 1976.



Ted Marchibroda didn't throw the towel in on Bert Jones after 2 bad seasons. Colts fans are glad that he didn't.

Chuck Noll didn't throw the towel in on Terry Bradshaw after 4 and-a-half bad seasons. All of the Steelers fans that were screaming for Bradshaw's head were glad that he didn't.

You want to throw the towel in on Anthony Richardson after his first full season in the NFL ...... I'm glad that you aren't making that decision.

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apballin 03-28-2025 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 322726)
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Let’s pickup the subject that you seem not interested in ...... Bert Jones and Terry Bradshaw.

As I stated earlier, both Jones and Bradshaw were awful in the first 2 years ...... in fact, Bradshaw was bad for FOUR years between 1970 and 1973. In fact, he was bad enough that Chuck Noll started Joe Gilliam in the first 6 games of the 1974 season after Gilliam played better than Bradshaw in the pre-season. Even though Gilliam didn't play that badly, Noll had an instinct that Bradshaw was his man for the long-term, so he reinstated him as the starting QB in the 7th game of the 14-game season. In the first Super Bowl that the Steelers won, Bradshaw was not a factor, as it was all Franco Harris and the Steelers' defense that carried the day to beat the Vikings. But in the next 3 Super Bowls (1975, 1978, and 1979) Bradshaw shined, especially in the final 2 Super Bowls in which he won back-to-back MVP's.

So ...... how many Steelers fans were screaming to "throw in the damned towel" in regard to getting rid of Terr Bradshaw in those first 5 seasons between 1970 and 1974 ??? A lot. In fact, most of them. The fans didn't get their way, Noll made what HE THOUGHT were the right moves, and the rest is history.

Bert Jones had a similar story to Bradshaw with a an awful start to his career, except that he only had 2 very bad season in 1973 and 1974 before he started to shine in 1975, and then won the MVP of the league in 1976.



Ted Marchibroda didn't throw the towel in on Bert Jones after 2 bad seasons. Colts fans are glad that he didn't.

Chuck Noll didn't throw the towel in on Terry Bradshaw after 4 and-a-half bad seasons. All of the Steelers fans that were screaming for Bradshaw's head were glad that he didn't.

You want to throw the towel in on Anthony Richardson after his first full season in the NFL ...... I'm glad that you aren't making that decision.

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It’s hard to talk about guys I wasn’t alive when they were playing but I’ll do some homework and get back to you

Ok right off the bat, Bradshaw was considered the best QB coming out of high school that year. He played 4 years of college football only started 2 and had 6 thousand passing yards. *Started every game * his junior and senior seasons. Your comparison ends there for me.

Richardson keeps getting a pass because of his age, Will Levis is in the exact same position and Titans are done with him. How long did the Steelers give Kenny Pickett?

apballin 03-28-2025 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 322724)
Edge or even Addai do not do anything so stupid. If we deem JT's situational awareness as acceptable, then my god, what low standards we now have!

Edge and Addai played with the greatest QB of all time. Edge was great at everything a true every down workhorse. However he was never asked to single handedly win games without a passing threat. What Taylor has done in his career here without a QB is crazy.

rm1369 03-28-2025 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322728)

Richardson keeps getting a pass because of his age, Will Levis is in the exact same position and Titans are done with him. How long did the Steelers give Kenny Pickett?

Exact same position? Levi’s is 3 years older, started twice as many games in college, was a 2nd round pick, and the titans have the #1 pick this year. There is damn near nothing similar.

Picket was also 3 years older when drafted, started almost 4 times as many games in college, and started 9 more games for Steelers than AR has for the Colts.

There is a pretty good argument that AR shouldn’t have even seen the field yet. The fact so many are already ready to move on from him shows how colossally Ballard has fucked this team up. You don’t draft a guy so young, so immature, and so raw at 4 and fucking bail this quickly. They’ve done absolutely nothing to support or develop him. Nothing.

apballin 03-28-2025 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 322752)
Exact same position? Levi’s is 3 years older, started twice as many games in college, was a 2nd round pick, and the titans have the #1 pick this year. There is damn near nothing similar.

Picket was also 3 years older when drafted, started almost 4 times as many games in college, and started 9 more games for Steelers than AR has for the Colts.

There is a pretty good argument that AR shouldn’t have even seen the field yet. The fact so many are already ready to move on from him shows how colossally Ballard has fucked this team up. You don’t draft a guy so young, so immature, and so raw at 4 and fucking bail this quickly. They’ve done absolutely nothing to support or develop him. Nothing.


Only given him a top 5 oline, RB, and offensive minded coach. You made my point he continues to get a pass because he’s so “young”. He regressed terribly and that’s on him. So what you’re telling me is a guy is better off playing 1 shitty season in college padding his stats when his teams getting blowout most of the time then train for the combine like crazy put up a fast 40 and as long as your 20 the team should give you atleast 3-4 years no matter how terrible you are.

Good thing Colts don’t have a top 5 pick because they would’ve fallen in love with Jalen Milroe

rm1369 03-29-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 322759)
Only given him a top 5 oline, RB, and offensive minded coach. You made my point he continues to get a pass because he’s so “young”. He regressed terribly and that’s on him. So what you’re telling me is a guy is better off playing 1 shitty season in college padding his stats when his teams getting blowout most of the time then train for the combine like crazy put up a fast 40 and as long as your 20 the team should give you atleast 3-4 years no matter how terrible you are.

Good thing Colts don’t have a top 5 pick because they would’ve fallen in love with Jalen Milroe

I prove your point by pointing out a true statement? I’m curious why Flacco wasn’t significantly better than him then if he had all those huge advantages? He looked pretty good for Cleveland the prior year.

Top 5 RB that can’t catch, can’t block, and who prioritizes showboating over winning in the biggest game of the year. A GM always planning for next year, until this year where everyone knows he’s finally about to be fired. An elite coach who always likes to make sure the other team scores before half and has no sense of game management. No TE. And a D that makes scrub QBs look like hall of famers and at points couldn’t have stopped Trent Richardson if he came out of retirement. And a fucking loosing culture in the locker room that even a couple vet players called out.

None of that means AR was good last year. You can’t say he regressed because of the sample size his first year. Him not staying healthy is the biggest indictment of him. The rest should not be unexpected. Anyone that didn’t realize he was young, inexperienced, immature, and had bad mechanics is a fucking idiot. Apparently that applies to the Colts organization. They’ve fucked this up about as well as they could have My point is the team never should have drafted him if they weren’t going to give him time to develop. But then Ballard has never had an actual plan.

Sounds like we agree colts management is fucked up

Colts And Orioles 03-29-2025 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 322777)



I prove your point by pointing out a true statement ??? I’m curious why Flacco wasn’t significantly better than him then if he had all those huge advantages? He looked pretty good for Cleveland the prior year.

Top 5 RB that can’t catch, can’t block, ) and who prioritizes showboating over winning in the biggest game of the year. ) A GM always planning for next year, until this year where everyone knows he’s finally about to be fired. An elite coach who always likes to make sure the other team scores before half and has no sense of game management. No TE. And a D that makes scrub QBs look like hall of famers and at points couldn’t have stopped Trent Richardson if he came out of retirement. And a fucking loosing culture in the locker room that even a couple vet players called out.

None of that means AR was good last year. You can’t say he regressed because of the sample size his first year. Him not staying healthy is the biggest indictment of him. The rest should not be unexpected. Anyone that didn’t realize he was young, inexperienced, immature, and had bad mechanics is a fucking idiot. Apparently that applies to the Colts organization. They’ve fucked this up about as well as they could have My point is the team never should have drafted him if they weren’t going to give him time to develop. But then Ballard has never had an actual plan.




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I like Jonathan Taylor, but his dropping the ball at the goal-line was the most infuriating single Colts play of the 2024 season for me. In fact, it's probably the single most infuriating Colts play since the fake-punt against the Patriots back in 2015 ...... that play is so infamous that it has its own Wikipedia page, and is known as The Colts Catastrophe.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colts_Catastrophe


I think that the ball barely crossed the plane of the goal-line before Taylor dropped it, but that isn't the point ...... players who have been eating, breathing, and sleeping football since they were in 5th grade are doing this shit at the highest level of the sport, and they deserve to ravaged about it for not learning from the more than one hundred times that it's happened since around the mid-1990's in both college and pro football. It probably happened a lot before then, but the refs didn't start calling it and reviewing it on a regular basis via a replay until about 25 or 30 years ago.

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Colts And Orioles 03-29-2025 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 322777)



Anyone who didn’t realize that he was young, inexperienced, immature, and had bad mechanics is a fucking idiot.




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I realized that Richardson was young, inexperienced, immature, and had bad mechanics, but I'm still a fucking idiot.

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rm1369 03-29-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 322781)
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I like Jonathan Taylor, but his dropping the ball at the goal-line was the most infuriating single Colts play of the 2024 season for me. In fact, it's probably the single most infuriating Colts play since the fake-punt against the Patriots back in 2015 ...... that play is so infamous that it has its own Wikipedia page, and is known as The Colts Catastrophe.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colts_Catastrophe


I think that the ball barely crossed the plane of the goal-line before Taylor dropped it, but that isn't the point ...... players who have been eating, breathing, and sleeping football since they were in 5th grade are doing this shit at the highest level of the sport, and they deserve to ravaged about it for not learning from the more than one hundred times that it's happened since around the mid-1990's in both college and pro football. It probably happened a lot before then, but the refs didn't start calling it and reviewing it on a regular basis via a replay until about 25 or 30 years ago.

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Even minus that play I’m not really a JT fan. I prefer complete RBs. My all time favorite player is Edge. JT to me is simply a luxury RB. He may maximize the holes the lines gives him but he doesn’t create yardage when none is there, he’s not a power runner at the LOS, he can’t block, and can’t catch. He’s one dimensional. Ap is calling out ARs lack of improvement from yr 1 to yr 2 (which is valid), but I’d love to hear where the apparently great JT has improved. He’s got major holes in his game and I’ve seen zero improvement.

apballin 03-29-2025 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 322783)
Even minus that play I’m not really a JT fan. I prefer complete RBs. My all time favorite player is Edge. JT to me is simply a luxury RB. He may maximize the holes the lines gives him but he doesn’t create yardage when none is there, he’s not a power runner at the LOS, he can’t block, and can’t catch. He’s one dimensional. Ap is calling out ARs lack of improvement from yr 1 to yr 2 (which is valid), but I’d love to hear where the apparently great JT has improved. He’s got major holes in his game and I’ve seen zero improvement.

Even with what you’re calling major holes he’s still a top 5 back in the league. He is what he is at this point, it’s like complaining about Derrick Henry not being a great receiver but he can get you 2 thousand yards and 20tds.

JT improved on his fumbling which is why he was even available to be drafted when we got him. I never expected him to turn into Marshall Faulk, but he has to be accounted for by every guy on the defense and he punishes defenders which should go hand in hand with this offense. Not a great receiver or pass blocker I’ll give you that. You go back and watch nearly every deep ball Richardson completed last year and it was off play action, same with Flacco.

Nobody is afraid of Richardson or Daniel Jones for that matter… like I said this team goes as JT goes he sets everything up

omahacolt 03-30-2025 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 322690)
The apologist will grasp any small nugget to hang onto. I said from day 1, wasted pick and 100% a bust. His previous tape prior to the draft shows who we were getting, and it was a spot on. He is not an NFL QB and that is a factual. A case of can't see the forest through the trees.

I mean you could be right. probably are right that he won't ever turn into a consistent good qb


but


he has played very little ball. I have a hard time being that definitive about a guy with such a great skill set.

Colts And Orioles 03-31-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 322815)



I mean, you could be right. You probably are right that he won't ever turn into a consistently good QB.


but ......


Richardson has played very little ball ...... I have a hard time being that definitive about a guy with such a great skill set.




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That's where I'm at.

When I say that I'm "still in his corner", I'm not necessarily predicting that he will have a good career, but rather that he might ...... and a 22 year-old who has 15 games as a starting quarterback under his belt is still in the proverbial wildcard status, as far as I'm concerned.

I have no problem with bringing in Daniel Jones as competition for the starting job QB, either ...... Chuck Noll benched Terry Bradshaw for the first 6 games of the 1974 because Joe Gilliam was playing better than he was, and in 1974 Bradshaw was 26 years-old and in his 5th NFL season.

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apballin 06-06-2025 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 322726)
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Let’s pickup the subject that you seem not interested in ...... Bert Jones and Terry Bradshaw.

As I stated earlier, both Jones and Bradshaw were awful in the first 2 years ...... in fact, Bradshaw was bad for FOUR years between 1970 and 1973. In fact, he was bad enough that Chuck Noll started Joe Gilliam in the first 6 games of the 1974 season after Gilliam played better than Bradshaw in the pre-season. Even though Gilliam didn't play that badly, Noll had an instinct that Bradshaw was his man for the long-term, so he reinstated him as the starting QB in the 7th game of the 14-game season. In the first Super Bowl that the Steelers won, Bradshaw was not a factor, as it was all Franco Harris and the Steelers' defense that carried the day to beat the Vikings. But in the next 3 Super Bowls (1975, 1978, and 1979) Bradshaw shined, especially in the final 2 Super Bowls in which he won back-to-back MVP's.

So ...... how many Steelers fans were screaming to "throw in the damned towel" in regard to getting rid of Terr Bradshaw in those first 5 seasons between 1970 and 1974 ??? A lot. In fact, most of them. The fans didn't get their way, Noll made what HE THOUGHT were the right moves, and the rest is history.

Bert Jones had a similar story to Bradshaw with a an awful start to his career, except that he only had 2 very bad season in 1973 and 1974 before he started to shine in 1975, and then won the MVP of the league in 1976.



Ted Marchibroda didn't throw the towel in on Bert Jones after 2 bad seasons. Colts fans are glad that he didn't.

Chuck Noll didn't throw the towel in on Terry Bradshaw after 4 and-a-half bad seasons. All of the Steelers fans that were screaming for Bradshaw's head were glad that he didn't.

You want to throw the towel in on Anthony Richardson after his first full season in the NFL ...... I'm glad that you aren't making that decision.

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Ready to throw in that towel yet Rocky?

Colts And Orioles 06-06-2025 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 325812)



Ready to throw in that towel yet, Rocky ???




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No, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on a 22 year-old QB who just sustained another injury to his throwing arm.

Are you having fun gleefully celebrating the misfortune of a Colts player to show how prudent you are ???

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Racehorse 06-06-2025 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 325815)
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No, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on a 22 year-old QB who just sustained another injury to his throwing arm.

Are you having fun gleefully celebrating the misfortune of a Colts player to show how prudent you are ???

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It really is annoying when fans are gleeful about failures on the part of anything related to the team.

apballin 06-06-2025 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 325815)
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No, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on a 22 year-old QB who just sustained another injury to his throwing arm.

Are you having fun gleefully celebrating the misfortune of a Colts player to show how prudent you are ???

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I’m not celebrating, I merely asked a question in response to your glowing remarks that you were glad I wasn’t running the team. Running a team means being able to make tough decisions no matter how much you make like a guy personally.

You’re like the rest of us, you fell in love with the story and not the player and you’re clinging to hope.

Him missing any time right now is not gonna win the starting job I’ll tell you that

apballin 06-06-2025 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 325818)
It really is annoying when fans are gleeful about failures on the part of anything related to the team.

I call it like I see it regardless, I wanna win as much as anyone on here.

Again there’s nothing gleeful about my post, but I did say Jones would be the starter and I’d be surprised if Richardson made it through preseason.

He doesn’t want the job let’s be real here

YDFL Commish 06-06-2025 05:57 PM

AR was never going to win the job anyway. The kid may never play another down at QB in the NFL, and that's the truth.

I'm not predicting that Daniel Jones is going to have a bounce back season. But, he doesn't have to. Jones on bad Giants teams, with no weapons and piss poor offensive line still has a career completion percentage of 64% and a positive TD to int ratio. IT is truly like comparing apples and oranges.

Colts And Orioles 06-06-2025 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 325825)



I’m not celebrating, I merely asked a question in response to your glowing remarks that you were glad I wasn’t running the team.



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Oh, really ??? You weren't celebrating, it's just a mere coincidence that you bumped this thread shortly after Richardson was injured, AND you facetiously asked me (Rocky) if I was ready to throw in the towel. You're as transparent as Scotch tape. And you're damned right that I'm glad that you're not running the team with your attitude.

apballin 06-06-2025 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 325830)
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Oh, really ??? You weren't celebrating, it's just a mere coincidence that you bumped this thread shortly after Richardson was injured, AND you facetiously asked me (Rocky) if I was ready to throw in the towel. You're as transparent as Scotch tape. And you're damned right that I'm glad that you're not running the team with your attitude.

You always bring up old threads so yeah there was some humor meant to be in there specifically for you. Not about anyone being injured


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