AR update after Steeler game
 

Seems he suffered a hip pointer. Could have played if he had too but they kept him out as a precaution.

https://x.com/aroundthenfl/status/18...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

I was curious about this...I remember the commentators confused about him being ruled "out" if he was back on the sideline still in full gear.
And they had the sideline report ask about it and she had reported back after talking to Steichen that he replied with a short "he got hit, he's out"

I wasn't sure if that was just some coach-speak and not wanting to elaborate. Or was it frustration with AR? If the latter, I kinda felt that was a risky thing to do, given how the game almost slipped away. WIthout AR, the offense lost a few dimensions, like the RPO. Even though Flacco played fairly well, there was definitely some stalled drives.

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Thanks for the info.

I'm glad that they held him back, and I have no problem with them keeping him off of the field for at least one additional game. The last thing that I want to happen is a repeat of what the Washington Redskins did with Robert Griffin III. Late in his rookie season, Griffin sustained aa Grade 1 LCL sprain. What happened in a playoff game against the Seahawks shortly after that was an absolute travesty. He WAS NOT cleared to play, but the Redskins trotted him out there anyway. He reinjured his knee late in the 1st quarter, AND THE REDSKINS KEPT HIM IN THE GAME !!! ) :eek: ) Griffin wound up tearing both his LCL and ACL while continuing to hobble around the field for the final 3 quarters of that game, which of course required surgery.

Griffin III was the Rookie of the Year in 2012, playing to the tune of 102.4 QB rating. In only 15 games that year he completed 65.6% of his passes, 20 TD's and 5 INT's, and rushed for 815 yards for a 6.7 YPC average ...... if the Redskins had not done the unthinkable in terms of recklessness with him, he may have wound up with a long, distinguished career, instead of the abbreviated, decent career that he had.

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I think there is some frustration in all of this. The question is what is the frustration? Is it AR not really getting out of harms way- so basically not doing what he has been coached to do- especially in a game where at the time there is no benefit to the extra couple yards opening up the hit opportunity? Or is the frustration with what was probably a "are you good to go back in" "yes" and then immediately coming back out? I could see Steichen being kind of ticked at that as a coach. He is counting on you to be straight and either say yes and go full tilt or explain you can't. But for it to go the way it did, I could see Steichen just saying fuck it, done dealing with you right now, we're going to go with Joe for the rest of it and in turn sending AR a message about how quickly the NFL can show you that Not For Long is applicable to absolutely everyone in the league.

Bingo...that is what I am thinking as well. When ask about AR's return Steichen comment to the field reporter was, he got hit so he's out! He may even be feeling like AR needs to man up a little, sometimes you have to play through some pain, the great ones did/do it all the time! I remember Peyton nearly getting his head torn off by the Redskins, and came back in after one play!

I’m not because he clearly needs as many reps as possible. This narrative of he’s so raw and inexperienced is getting old real quick. He’s the leader of the team and with every other QB this has been unacceptable. Wentz even gutted it out with 2 sprained ankle’s

Agreed. Hopefully he sat in front of a screen last night and watched Allen and Lamar just get blasted over and over, and come right fucking back at it. He was drafted #4 for his dual threat ability- he cannot be the franchise without the full deck being available every time out.

Extremely confusing injury status updates.

This morning on Bowen and Sweeny- Will something or other said oblique and abdominal strain. Uncertain of grade but if Level 2- would be 4-6 weeks.

Just now on Query- Holder just said the team injury updates indicated no structural issue and this is now just a pain management thing and hopeful he would be the starter Sunday.

Taylor- low level high ankle. Uncertain of status for Sunday, told Holder after the game it was not a big deal.

The WORST news of all of this - Tyquan Lewis to IR with elbow injury. Uncertain right now if that is full season IR or short term IR.

This team is getting destroyed with injuries.

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I'm not worried about him being raw and inexperienced, and I didn't say or insinuate that at all. I would say that same thing about a 7-year veteran franchise quarterback as I would Richardson. I'm concerned about his long-term health. If he has a hip-pointer and he plays with it, it could develop into a degenerative hip injury that ends his career. What's old is the notion that players are necessarily soft if they don't play with injuries that could affect their long-term health. None of us know the extent of Richardson's hip injury, and if the Colts are making sure that it won't endanger his season or his career, they are doing the right thing.

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Goddamn, Lewis. This poor bastard can't buy a smooth ride. 7 seasons in and he's missed half the season 5 times.

DL is taking an absolute pummeling so far.

Let's assume that we win this weekend. The question then becomes, is Ballard willing to fortify the DE position with a veteran addition?

There is not much out there to choose from. But I don't wanna live in a world of what if's either.

I'd roll with Latu, Paye, and Dayo. Those are 3 of the top 4 at the start of the year anyway. Get Buck back and the D should get rolling.

When does Paye return? Also, it seems like the pass rush is not as effective when Latu is not on the field.

Absolutely the case. Even when he isn't getting pressure, he is forcing movement in the pocket most of the time.

Also notice he is moving around some- which I love. Tells me they see a multi-talented DL in him vs just a straight edge rusher with only sack skills.

Not to mention Adebare and Land seem to have some explosive potential as well

He cannot keep putting himself in harms way and losing out on valuable on field time. You can’t be a dual threat QB that leaves the field every time you take a hit

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You'll get no argument from me there. I have specifically stated that he needs to learn from last season, and only put his head down and fight for yards in crucial situations ...... last year, he was reckless in situations that did not warrant it (usually on 1st and 2nd downs.)

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AR downgraded to doubtful for tomorrow in Jacksonville.

Looks like old man Flacco will start.

Probably just as well. We aren’t winning anyway. No need to send him out there less than 100 percent on a lost cause.

Colts are going to need to think about drafting a qb again. Love everything about AR's potential but he just can't stay healthy. Need a a reliable qb.

Suck this year....draft a couple of lock down CBs in 2025.

Suck next year....draft Arch Manning at #1 in 2026
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Trade for Marvin Harrison Junior!

He’s soft and after Luck they’re overprotective but I think he’ll learn from this and play accordingly when running

Hahaha! I do keep thinking how big sweater is rubbing his head, thinking how he went wrong...duh

To be honest...Let's Go Coats!

Who is big sweater?

Oh well, maybe old man Flacco can end our curse in Jacksonville.

If AR comes back and gets hurt again missing multiple games, is it time for the Colts to start looking at other options next season? If not, at what point do we consider this guy not durable enough to play this position?

We’re not anywhere near there yet.

He still has unlimited potential.

Just have to teach him to get the fuck down.

Yeah he’s making himself look soft and clearly the lack of experience has him playing reckless and sloppy football. Is it correctable? I have no idea all I know is after last season and him sitting and watching all year I thought it would be beneficial for him this year. I’m disappointed in where he’s at to say the least the main thing is his taking unnecessary hits that he can’t seem to withstand at 6-4 250

I sincerely hope today was an inflection point. He sure as hell seemed to sound like he could have come back in the game last week. Sounded like he very likely could have gone this week. I really hope this was a Steichen message sender today- no, you sit, you watch, you watch a geriatric old man go out and sling that shit around and play at a high level, nope you are hurt, go ahead and heal- but watch and get more anxious that your job can be gone as soon as tomorrow if you aren't on the field and performing. Time for a lot of people to find a little more sac than what we've seen to date.

I agree, sadly if he isn't durable enough, he won't be the first or last. We have seen it many times, I hope he has just been unlucky, but if it keeps happening, at some point it will be determined it isn't bad luck!

Patience has to be wearing thin regardless of how young he is. He’s benefited from the Luck situation tremendously but at some point the pamper has got to get taken off

I coach runners, and I am starting to see a decline in the levels of mental toughness in the youngest generation.