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Kray007 09-19-2024 12:58 PM

Let’s make no mistake…this season is about one thing…
 
Molding Anthony Richardson into a top tier, NFL quality Quarterback; a Quarterback who can make all the throws and who’s capable of routinely executing a signature 12 play, 80 yard drive.

If they accomplish that, Ballard can spend draft day concentrating on filling holes on D. He can look for the next Troy Polamalu or Sauce Gardner. He doesn’t have to deal with the niggling tickle, the siren song of casting around, trying to find a gem at QB amid the dreck.

If they accomplish that, Chris Ballard is probably a little more willing to delve into the veteran free agent market. He could be uncomfortable with the idea of building a roster through free agency, but he might be willing to spend on one or two pieces if he thinks they’re the kind of moves that push Colts over the top and into the promised land.

If they accomplish that, 2025 could be the start of the kind of run we saw, 20 years ago, under Peyton Manning.

Discflinger 09-19-2024 02:22 PM

Trading baaaaaaaaaaaack...

Which isn't always bad...but STFU! It's only week 3!

apballin 09-19-2024 05:04 PM

We will never see another run like we saw with Manning, he’s the goat and it’s not even close. The stretch of dominance Manning had will never be duplicated.

If we’re talking about this season and what their plans are, I have no clue but if having him throw it 30 times a game was it they should’ve let all the free agents walk and started from scratch

Dewey 5 09-19-2024 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 304379)
Molding Anthony Richardson into a top tier, NFL quality Quarterback; a Quarterback who can make all the throws and who’s capable of routinely executing a signature 12 play, 80 yard drive.

If they accomplish that, Ballard can spend draft day concentrating on filling holes on D. He can look for the next Troy Polamalu or Sauce Gardner. He doesn’t have to deal with the niggling tickle, the siren song of casting around, trying to find a gem at QB amid the dreck.

If they accomplish that, Chris Ballard is probably a little more willing to delve into the veteran free agent market. He could be uncomfortable with the idea of building a roster through free agency, but he might be willing to spend on one or two pieces if he thinks they’re the kind of moves that push Colts over the top and into the promised land.

If they accomplish that, 2025 could be the start of the kind of run we saw, 20 years ago, under Peyton Manning.

Agree with all of this except the Ballard part. He needs to go.

ChoppedWood 09-19-2024 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 304429)
Agree with all of this except the Ballard part. He needs to go.

Averaging 235 given up on the ground- league worst
Averaging 72.5% completion rate- 2nd worst in the league


This dude's build from the inside out- is a fucking enormous failure! HE MUST BE SHITCANNED!!!

CletusPyle 09-19-2024 09:52 PM

I agree, the Colts do not appear to be a team that has a goal of winning the division, in fact if they keep playing the way they have been they may get the number 1 pick! I am so disappointed in the product on the field, and I don't see Steichen as the long term answer here, he seems to be taking a step backward this season, right now....this is not a good football team!

Chromeburn 09-19-2024 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 304436)
Averaging 235 given up on the ground- league worst
Averaging 72.5% completion rate- 2nd worst in the league


This dude's build from the inside out- is a fucking enormous failure! HE MUST BE SHITCANNED!!!

Running game league wide is about to have a rennaisance. Soon won’t be just the colts struggling with it.

ChaosTheory 09-19-2024 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 304406)
We will never see another run like we saw with Manning, he’s the goat and it’s not even close. The stretch of dominance Manning had will never be duplicated.

Yeah, gotta pump the brakes expecting AR to reach that level. Good thing is, we got to experience that run. Bad thing is, it'll likely not happen again.

Only the Patriots have had more wins in a 5-year span. Only the Patriots and 49ers have had more wins in a 10-year span. Technically, the Colts had the record for wins in a given decade until the 2010's Patriots topped it.

We're hoping for Josh Allen caliber, which is a different level. Fans want AR to have Allen's year-three leap in year-one. Understandable, but need to be realistic.

rm1369 09-20-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 304440)
Running game league wide is about to have a rennaisance. Soon won’t be just the colts struggling with it.

So Ballard and Bradley are visionaries!

rm1369 09-20-2024 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 304379)
Molding Anthony Richardson into a top tier, NFL quality Quarterback; a Quarterback who can make all the throws and who’s capable of routinely executing a signature 12 play, 80 yard drive.

If they accomplish that, Ballard can spend draft day concentrating on filling holes on D. He can look for the next Troy Polamalu or Sauce Gardner. He doesn’t have to deal with the niggling tickle, the siren song of casting around, trying to find a gem at QB amid the dreck.

If they accomplish that, Chris Ballard is probably a little more willing to delve into the veteran free agent market. He could be uncomfortable with the idea of building a roster through free agency, but he might be willing to spend on one or two pieces if he thinks they’re the kind of moves that push Colts over the top and into the promised land.

If they accomplish that, 2025 could be the start of the kind of run we saw, 20 years ago, under Peyton Manning.

There is no doubt ARs development is the most important thing for this season. Wouldn’t having the ball more than 20 mins a game help? Wouldn’t having a defense get the ball back quickly help him and the offense get a rhythm? Wouldn’t having a D get some stops, get some short fields help? Do you want him learning that to win he has to play Superman? Because that’s the way this team would win right now - AR playing great. Through two games Ballard’s next year approach is actively hurting ARs developmen IMO.

For the life of me I can’t understand why some people believe Ballard will change when the QB is in place. Hopefully thinking is the only explanation, because he’s shown nothing else. What is the draw back to getting vets now? If AR fails everything starts over. So why the fuck would you not be doing everything you can right now to make it as easy on this kid as possible?

apballin 09-20-2024 07:13 PM

The only thing I can think of is they want him to have as many throwing reps as possible and quickly to speed up his timing and feel for defense speed and reading coverages. Otherwise the offense should have gone through Taylor the first 2 games as we all expected.

This was the approach with Cam Newton and Andrew Luck when they entered the league and after 4 games it seemed things started clicking for both, only difference is those 2 had a lot more experience than AR so we’ll see how it pans out but these next couple games are going to be very pivotal in his development/ confidence and career in my opinion

YDFL Commish 09-20-2024 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 304471)
There is no doubt ARs development is the most important thing for this season. Wouldn’t having the ball more than 20 mins a game help? Wouldn’t having a defense get the ball back quickly help him and the offense get a rhythm? Wouldn’t having a D get some stops, get some short fields help? Do you want him learning that to win he has to play Superman? Because that’s the way this team would win right now - AR playing great. Through two games Ballard’s next year approach is actively hurting ARs developmen IMO.

For the life of me I can’t understand why some people believe Ballard will change when the QB is in place. Hopefully thinking is the only explanation, because he’s shown nothing else. What is the draw back to getting vets now? If AR fails everything starts over. So why the fuck would you not be doing everything you can right now to make it as easy on this kid as possible?

Because Ballard wants all choir boys. At some point he's gotta turn the locker room over to the vets. He's letting the entire team down by not showing a desire to win.

Get them some damn help when they need it!

Chromeburn 09-21-2024 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 304468)
So Ballard and Bradley are visionaries!

Running is going up. Not hard to predict. Dline are lighter. Linebackers are safety size and safeties are small and fast. Offenses are struggling to score against two deep looks, scoring is the worst it’s been in 20 years. Offenses have to adjust and we will likely see more RPO and running game. Hell the packers installed a power running game over the usual zone blocking they do just for this game.

Mr. Session 09-21-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 304522)
Running is going up. Not hard to predict. Dline are lighter. Linebackers are safety size and safeties are small and fast. Offenses are struggling to score against two deep looks, scoring is the worst it’s been in 20 years. Offenses have to adjust and we will likely see more RPO and running game. Hell the packers installed a power running game over the usual zone blocking they do just for this game.

I feel like I've been hearing about this for 10-15 years now and it's finally showing up.

I have to wonder if it's not tied to the fact these teams do not practice as much, but I find the arguments for why we're seeing this really fascinating and fun.

apballin 09-21-2024 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 304533)
I feel like I've been hearing about this for 10-15 years now and it's finally showing up.

I have to wonder if it's not tied to the fact these teams do not practice as much, but I find the arguments for why we're seeing this really fascinating and fun.

I believe the defensive guys are getting pissed at the paydays these offensive guys are receiving and they’re taking out their frustrations on the field

Indystu2 09-21-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 304533)
I have to wonder if it's not tied to the fact these teams do not practice as much, but I find the arguments for why we're seeing this really fascinating and fun.

I was thinking about this too. Less actual game practice time. With less preseason games, it will likely take teams longer to get their sh*t together. The progress we used to see in week 2/3 we may not see until week 4/5 now. Yes, some teams have started out good, but overall, it seems like teams just need more time on the field, actually in games. I am not saying the Colts are going to be good this year, just that I am holding off on writing them off until I see more. It's just 0-2 right now. We are what are record says we are.

Chromeburn 09-21-2024 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 304533)
I feel like I've been hearing about this for 10-15 years now and it's finally showing up.

I have to wonder if it's not tied to the fact these teams do not practice as much, but I find the arguments for why we're seeing this really fascinating and fun.

We were in a passing era for awhile there. But all the vets have retired. Everyone is complaining now about QB development. Brady had a big spiel on it recently talking about how kids are not developed anymore. I think the running game is going to have to come back some. League is always about adjusting to what defenses do to stop them. If they are all going light, run the ball.

ChoppedWood 09-21-2024 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 304557)
We were in a passing era for awhile there. But all the vets have retired. Everyone is complaining now about QB development. Brady had a big spiel on it recently talking about how kids are not developed anymore. I think the running game is going to have to come back some. League is always about adjusting to what defenses do to stop them. If they are all going light, run the ball.

Roger Goodell is not about to let this continue for much longer, it is a very real safety concern. At some point we're going to have to protect these ball carriers because safety is paramount!

What do you think, by week 8 he institutes a new rule limiting total team rushes to 20 per game?

Thank God we have a guy like him that is so focused on player safety to save this game from itself.

Racehorse 09-22-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 304558)
Roger Goodell is not about to let this continue for much longer, it is a very real safety concern. At some point we're going to have to protect these ball carriers because safety is paramount!

What do you think, by week 8 he institutes a new rule limiting total team rushes to 20 per game?

Thank God we have a guy like him that is so focused on player safety to save this game from itself.

He would do it to spare the defenders, who are lighter than the backs, but your point is still valid.

apballin 09-22-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 304557)
We were in a passing era for awhile there. But all the vets have retired. Everyone is complaining now about QB development. Brady had a big spiel on it recently talking about how kids are not developed anymore. I think the running game is going to have to come back some. League is always about adjusting to what defenses do to stop them. If they are all going light, run the ball.

Titans and Ravens already tried this

Offense sells tickets, fantasy football is good for ratings, all that’s happening now is teams are treating week 1 and 2 as preseason and treating preseason like camp and camp is nothing more than a parade for fans

Chromeburn 09-22-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 304558)
Roger Goodell is not about to let this continue for much longer, it is a very real safety concern. At some point we're going to have to protect these ball carriers because safety is paramount!

What do you think, by week 8 he institutes a new rule limiting total team rushes to 20 per game?

Thank God we have a guy like him that is so focused on player safety to save this game from itself.

That would be hilarious if he did that. But no I don’t think he will. League has a QB health problem though. Last year was a record year for injuries.at some point something has to give, maybe another incentive to do more running also.

Colts And Orioles 09-22-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 304387)



Trading baaaaaaaaaaaack ......

Which isn't always bad ...... but STFU !!! It's only week 3 !!!




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In addition to the Colts beating the Bears today, the Texans were crushed by the Minnesota Vikings by a score of 34-7 ....... so I agree with you, it's way too early to be making presumptions as to whether or not the Colts should be thinking of shrugging off the importance of the season and to strictly focus on the development of Anthony Richardson. In fact, part of a young quarterback's development IS presuming that the team can win and possibly go deep into the post-season. If that's added pressure on Richardson and the team, then I believe that it's all the better in the long-run.

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Dam8610 09-22-2024 09:25 PM

I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?

2) Bad Reads. No other way to put this, examples include passing up a TD to Ogletree today to throw an INT into triple coverage and the INT last week on a predetermined throw to Pittman that killed a drive. I haven't watched this week yet, but there were also a lot of open receivers AR passed up against GB. This is the issue that reps and film will fix the easiest.

3) Hero Ball. I could be wrong on this, but it seems like AR is trying to maximize each play. This leads to plays like the one today that was nearly a strip sack turnover. It also causes things like not taking the underneath routes and holding the ball too long leading to sacks. If you watch every dropback against GB, there are at least 5 open crossers Richardson either never sees or doesn't go to because he's trying to make a bigger play. This is an issue that will take coaching and film to fix, but it is fixable.

These three issues, as stated above, are fixable. They are also the reasons that Carson Wentz went from MVP candidate to bust. The other piece of this that concerns me is that AR looked more developed in his fourth and fifth games last year than he has at any point this year. I understand development isn't linear, but regression is concerning, especially if the previously reached high point wasn't the level of play that is needed, either.

YDFL Commish 09-22-2024 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 305078)
I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?

2) Bad Reads. No other way to put this, examples include passing up a TD to Ogletree today to throw an INT into triple coverage and the INT last week on a predetermined throw to Pittman that killed a drive. I haven't watched this week yet, but there were also a lot of open receivers AR passed up against GB. This is the issue that reps and film will fix the easiest.

3) Hero Ball. I could be wrong on this, but it seems like AR is trying to maximize each play. This leads to plays like the one today that was nearly a strip sack turnover. It also causes things like not taking the underneath routes and holding the ball too long leading to sacks. If you watch every dropback against GB, there are at least 5 open crossers Richardson either never sees or doesn't go to because he's trying to make a bigger play. This is an issue that will take coaching and film to fix, but it is fixable.

These three issues, as stated above, are fixable. They are also the reasons that Carson Wentz went from MVP candidate to bust. The other piece of this that concerns me is that AR looked more developed in his fourth and fifth games last year than he has at any point this year. I understand development isn't linear, but regression is concerning, especially if the previously reached high point wasn't the level of play that is needed, either.

Agree with everything said. But I'm sure as hell glad He's a Colt instead of Levis.

sherck 09-23-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 305078)
I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?

I don't remember where I saw it but just before the game, someone showed video of AR from the first two weeks where instead of his hips being perpendicular to his target, his hips are often parallel to his target on many of his bad throws.

He has enought upper body strength to still muscle the ball to his target but it often has the "throwing across his body' effect and his accuracy is poor.

Fixable? Yes, but the video mash up clearly showed that his body was not cleanly aligned for the throw he was trying to make.

Dam8610 09-23-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 305108)
I don't remember where I saw it but just before the game, someone showed video of AR from the first two weeks where instead of his hips being perpendicular to his target, his hips are often parallel to his target on many of his bad throws.

He has enought upper body strength to still muscle the ball to his target but it often has the "throwing across his body' effect and his accuracy is poor.

Fixable? Yes, but the video mash up clearly showed that his body was not cleanly aligned for the throw he was trying to make.

Went back and watched for that, you're absolutely right. Happens on the Downs airmail at the end of the half, as well as every high throw. The perfect throw to Granson, his back hip swung out. So this is quite clearly just a mechanical issue for an otherwise really accurate QB. They just need to coach him to plant his back foot in such a way that his hips are in the right position. I think scheming up some designed rollouts to the right will help with this as well, as he'll naturally have the correct footwork for those throws.

YDFL Commish 09-27-2024 08:26 PM

Let's look at the AR struggles in this context:

AR has a 49.3% completion percentage and has 7 career starts.

Trevor Lawrence has a 52.8 completion percentage and has 53 career starts.

Dam8610 09-28-2024 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 305502)
Let's look at the AR struggles in this context:

AR has a 49.3% completion percentage and has 7 career starts.

Trevor Lawrence has a 52.8 completion percentage and has 53 career starts.

I think everyone here wants AR to be better than Lawrence.

IndyNorm 09-28-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 305514)
I think everyone here wants AR to be better than Lawrence.

You beat me to it. Lawrence and the Jagoffs have been a shit show since Lawrence got hurt in their Bungles loss ~2/3 of the way through the season last year.

Of course the Jagoffs will beat us at least in Jax w/out any problem.

TheMugwump 09-28-2024 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 305108)
I don't remember where I saw it but just before the game, someone showed video of AR from the first two weeks where instead of his hips being perpendicular to his target, his hips are often parallel to his target on many of his bad throws.

He has enought upper body strength to still muscle the ball to his target but it often has the "throwing across his body' effect and his accuracy is poor.

Fixable? Yes, but the video mash up clearly showed that his body was not cleanly aligned for the throw he was trying to make.

The comparisons to Josh Allen do not start and stop here, but this is the exact same issue he had coming out of Wyoming and his first season. That, and length of stride. Short stride = overthrows. Especially with that cannon on his right shoulder.

And fixing footwork may not be easy during the season, on the fly so to speak. It will get fixed though.

Racehorse 09-28-2024 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 305514)
I think everyone here wants AR to be better than Lawrence.

He will be...in time

Discflinger 09-29-2024 06:07 AM

Gawd, let's hope so.

Colts And Orioles 10-11-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 305081)



I agree with everything that you said ...... ) but I'm sure as hell glad that he's a Colt instead of Will Levis.




o


We'll get a chance to see Levis against the Colts' defense on Sunday.



Titans QB Will Levis (Shoulder) Set to Start vs. Colts on Sunday

(By Grant Gordon)

https://www.nfl.com/news/titans-qb-w...olts-on-sunday

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omahacolt 10-12-2024 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 307350)
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We'll get a chance to see Levis against the Colts' defense on Sunday.



Titans QB Will Levis (Shoulder) Set to Start vs. Colts on Sunday

(By Grant Gordon)

https://www.nfl.com/news/titans-qb-w...olts-on-sunday

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put Levis in for DFS boys. career day upcoming

ChoppedWood 10-12-2024 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 307428)
put Levis in for DFS boys. career day upcoming

I have a ton of confidence in Gus, I have zero doubt he can prevent Levis from having a better game than Goff had a couple weeks ago when he statistically had the best game of all time. Yep, I think Levis will have an incompletion tomorrow. Book it!

Bullshit aside, the very first play he has them lined up giving 10 plus in cushion, on that play Steichen owes it to the franchise to call a TO and fire his ass on the spot!

IndyNorm 10-13-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 307428)
put Levis in for DFS boys. career day upcoming

Levis' passing O/U is only 203.5. It's like money in the bag right there.

Racehorse 10-13-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 307447)
Levis' passing O/U is only 203.5. It's like money in the bag right there.

Somehow, he only got to 95 yards passing.

Colts And Orioles 10-13-2024 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 307350)
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We'll get a chance to see Levis against the Colts' defense on Sunday.



Titans QB Will Levis (Shoulder) Set to Start vs. Colts on Sunday

(By Grant Gordon)

https://www.nfl.com/news/titans-qb-w...olts-on-sunday

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Outside of the disgraceful play in which the Colts' defense gave up a TD on 3rd-and-19 from the 24-yardline, the Titans' offense did almost nothing ...... their other TD was aided by a Flacco INT deep in Colts territory, and the FG that they got was aided by a phantom illegal hands call by the referees on a 3rd down.

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Colts And Orioles 10-19-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 307768)
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(COLTS vs. TITANS, 10/13)


Outside of the disgraceful play in which the Colts' defense gave up a TD on 3rd-and-19 from the 24-yardline, the Titans' offense did almost nothing ...... their other TD was aided by a Flacco INT deep in Colts territory, and the FG that they got was aided by a phantom illegal hands call by the referees on a 3rd down.

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(ONE WEEK LATER)


Levis sustained a right shoulder injury diving for a first down in The Titans' Week 4 win over the Miami Dolphins.



Titans to Start Rudolph Over Ailing Levis vs. Bills

(By Turron Davenport)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...levis-vs-bills

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YDFL Commish 10-20-2024 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 307766)
Somehow, he only got to 95 yards passing.

Levis was truly terrible. He locks on to one read and that's where the ball is going, unless he makes any one of his characteristic dumb ass mistakes.

He reminds me of Curtis Painter.


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