Who do you want at 15?
 

Pretty straightforward.

I think trading down will net the Colts a top 5 WR in the class that fits the mold of what the team tries to draft at WR as well as potentially netting another top 50ish pick, which would potentially net the team another quality starter.

Trade back and take Xavier Worthy

Another explosive home run threat paired with AR and JT

Makes ARs job easier because he opens things up strictly out of fear

While Mitchell would be tough to pass at 15 for what Worthy would provide to the offense and AR I’d be willing to trade back and go CB later.

Colts fans will have ptsd if they do this… but he’s not Paris Campbell or Phillip Dorsett he’s more like Desean Jackson

Quinyon Mitchell, the best CB in the draft, but i am not sure that he will be there for the Colts at 15. I would also sign Patrick Peterson to sure up the CB position. He can also play safety, providing the depth at both positions. Can also be a big teacher to the young guys.

If Mitchell isn't there, then i would go WR Bryan Thomas, a legit deep threat, with good hands. The WR class is deep and a decent player can be had in the 2nd round, which is not true of the CB class. Big drop off after the top 2 or 3 guys.

I am also not as down on what we already have on the roster at CB. Brents, Flowers and Moore are a capable set of cornerbacks, but besides Moore are very inexperienced and both Flowers and Brents struggled with injuries last year. Jaylon Jones and Baker are decent players for the back end of the roster.

If you had Mitchell, Brents, Moore, Flowers, Peterson that to me is an outstanding group of CB's. Allows Flowers to recover from his injury completely, Mitchell and Brents can compete and develop, the fallback option if either struggle is Peterson, who intially i would be looking at playing safety.

Brock Bowers.

Would be nice, if he falls to 15. However, I doubt he does.

I would be okay with a trade down, but a lot of heads would explode if we do. Ballard has been effective with a trade down and picking up draft capital to select a player or to use to trade back up to get a guy he likes.

I think it depends on who’s there, the only player they wouldn’t trade out of 15 is Bowers I believe.

I agree the WR class is good, so trading back for more picks and still getting a quality WR is the play to me.

I wouldn’t be mad at any weapon for AR but what’s the difference between WRs from outside the top 3 let’s say from 4-11 they seem pretty interchangeable outside of Worthy he seems like the most rare ability wise that’s gonna be available

It’s not that far fetched considering he still hasn’t worked out for teams, he is below the average size metrics for the position, and teams have been burned on drafting TEs high the last decade.

picked turner


would be fine with btj

If Arnold, Mitchell and Bowers are all gone...then yes trade down.

If there is any, I mean any legitimate opportunity to do so - trade up for Harrison Jr.

I don’t give a fuck.

I am not keen on either of the Alabama corners as outside guys. Probably ok for the slot, but they aren't fast enough to play outside.

A corner possibly with our 2nd round selection who i really like is Max Melton from Rutgers, if Mitchell isn't available at pick 15 and we take a WR instead.

If Dallas Turner was available, you run to the podium with your card, as he is the best player in this draft not named Caleb Williams. Just don't see anyway that he will still be there at pick 15. Same with Bowers, if he is somehow still there, can't see anyway you don't take him. In my mind there are 3 generational type talents in this draft, Williams, Turner and Bowers, with Quinyon Mitchell close behind.

I am not convinced Harrison Jr is going to be as good as his dad in the NFL, which is obviously saying a lot. He is likely going to be a great player, but i think that Malik Nabers is the best WR in this class. Nabers, Harrison, Thomas, and Odunze are all going to be very good true No. 1 guys.

If Verse or Latu are available at 15 you have to pull the trigger and get one of the best pass rushers in this years draft !!!

Would you give up next year's 1 for him? Because I'm fairly certain that's what it would take.

I would pass

How I think they will go, pass catcher and corner in the top two rounds.
1. Bowers > Mitchell/BTj > slight trade down for Worthy
2. If pass catcher in 1; Max melton/TJ Tampa
If CB in 1; Malachi Corley

Yes

TBF, I am not being entirely logical.

But for argument's sake, Atlanta traded up for Julio Jones and it proved to be worth the expense.

I picked trade down because that just fits Ballard's MO.

If the WR class is as deep as everyone is saying, then a trade down to the mid 20s should receive as compesation a pick something like:

IND trades #15 (1050 points) for

GB #25 (720 points) and GB 2nd round #58 (320 points) and GB 5th round #169 (23.8 points)

1050 versus 1063.8 because the trades always slightly favor the team trading down.

Getting that extra top 60-70 player is pretty big when Ballard always preaches that the more swings you take at the plate, the more hits you get.

If Bowers is there then I definitely want us to take him. If he's gone then BT or Mitchell or BTJr. Although I'm sure trading down is the most likely.

Has Worthy shown he can do more other than go deep? Would hate to see us spend a 1st rounder on a smaller, fast version of Pierce.

Not in a million years. Indiana sports fans are too sentimental, lots of people are losing their minds that Ballard is not making a move to get Harrison Jr.

These same people insisted we had to have a Knight descendant coaching at IU. They wanted Alford for years but that dude clearly sucks. They wanted Woodson, and he's done nothing to show he's any better than anyone hired post-Knight.

These same people will be losing their minds over us not drafting Arch Manning in a few years.

Holy crap did the Browns botch that trade. Man it must suck to be one of their fans.

Yeah Worthy is quite capable. He’s been their #1 receiver since he’s been there and had nearly 1000 yards as a freshman. Freshman production of that kind is a good indicator of future success. Does a good job of hiding his routes and intentions. He attacks the ball in the air using his hands. His speed gives teams fits they are so afraid of it. He gets large cushions that he takes advantage of on come backs, deep curls, digs, outs and slants. He also clears out whole areas as a distraction bc safeties freak out when he is in their area, freeing things underneath for other receivers. But he knows how to use his speed also and can juke guys in short range and goal line situations, also a huge distraction as a potential jet sweep. A couple other things, Ewers is not a good deep ball thrower and he missed him on quite a few would be touchdowns. I know a couple longhorns fans and they told me he would get open a lot but the pass would be short or late allowing the corner to close. Also you may see people talk about him dropping a lot of passes last year, but he had a broken hand which not many know. His catching was much better this year.

He is also a good returner.

But if I’m Steichen I’m looking at potential mismatches and YAC guys. Bowers, Corley, Worthy, BTj, Mitchell. He wants more explosive plays and there are quite a few receivers lost in this draft that have r was on good speed.

And Grigson bailed them out a little.

If the top 5 (MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Mitchell) are gone after a trade down, my next guy would be Legette. Corley is more of a trade down in Round 2 guy IMO.

Arnold, but most decisions here aren't going to bother me. I'm fine if the Colts trade back a bit, or trade up a bit for a guy like Bowers or Nabors or whoever.

Also don't care that much if they draft Mitchell over Arnold. Any good CB would be huge though, and if they stay at #15 I hope they get one of them.

I see Corley and Legette as round two. Corley has a lot to learn as a receiver still. He’s compared to Deebo but Deebo was much more refined as a receiver. But he is a weapon in the open field.legettes lack of production worries me late two imo. I’m not a huge fan of Mitchell, think he should have produced more, and he was hurt the first two years at Georgia. I think Worthy has jumped Mitchell and is top 20 now.

You don’t like Worthy at all?

Hands are questionable, deep speed doesn't show up in games as much as you'd like to see, and his build is very slight. Given a choice between Worthy and Legette, I'd take Legette.

Cmon man, Legette is 23 with 12 career TDs

Worthy will be 21 as has been productive all 3 years, he’s not a 1 year wonder trying to cash in.

its unfortunate that a heavy offensive draft doesn't really seem to make me excited for a defensive guy to fall. I am sure people are high on the corners but I don't really care much about that position with our shitty pass rush.


or inconsistent pass rush if someone wants to regurgitate how many sacks we got last year.

so bowers or btj seem like the most promising options

If Dallas Turner slips they probably take him, and Jared Verse is still a dark horse candidate to me. I’m back and forth on Latu, but his injury history probably rules him out.

In the second I could see them looking at Darius Robinson or Chris Braswell. Just listened to an interview with Braswell and the guy squats 900 lbs. that’s insane.

But what I think will help the rush more than anything is improved secondary play.

They went defensive heavy in free agency, they’ve gotta get Richardson more weapons

Actually the Browns ended up making it even worse on themselves by using the pick they got from us to trade up for Johnny Manziel :D:D:D

Ok, saw that Worthy was somewhat productive so figured he's more than just a 40 time. Agree we need more YAC guys. Hope we draft at least 2-3.

So many wasted high draft picks over the years.

Doubling up with Brian Thomas Jr. or Adonai Mitchell and Malachi Corley would be fun, if a bit unrealistic. Another interesting play would be to draft Quinyon Mitchell at 15 then trade up into the early 20s for Adonai Mitchell. If they do end up trading down and getting an extra 2 out of it, Kris Jenkins is another guy I'd want to target. He's strong enough to bulk up and play nose, but athletic enough to become a future 3T as well. Draft day this year will certainly be interesting.

Brian Thomas Jr but my guess is dipshit Ballard will trade way down.