L'Jarius Sneed
 

Rumors are rampid that the colts are going to trade for Sneed. I'm against it not because of the draft picks it would take to get him but the contract he wants and would get.

I would rather see the colts draft someone. How do others feel on the possible trade?

I keep think Sneed might be like J C Jackson, great in the system he was in and terrible in new system and paid a ton of money. Sure didn't work out for the chargers.

He’s low key one of the best corners in the league. I’m not opposed to getting him. Lord knows we need cornerbacks.

I agree with sentiment. I know that he's a good zone corner and that we play predominately zone. But he also comes from a team that blitzes more than Bradley does with the Colts.

Sneed may not be the same player if he has to cover for an extra .5 to 1 sec. compared to what he's accustomed to.

I’m good with it… rather have a guy that’s playing at a high level then drafting a guy and waiting for him to potentially be good in a few years

Put all the talent we can around AR while he’s on his rookie deal— offense and defense

I think Holder shot all those rumors down

Holder is good with team info during the season but situations like this I don’t trust him

The main point that Holder was making was that the deal wasn't done to shoot down the tweets saying that the "deal is done" or the "deal is imminent."

And considering that it has been 8 or 9 hours since those "deal is done" tweets and there is no Rapoport or Schefter tweet announcing the trade - it looks like Holder was right.


But it is pretty clear that the Colts are interested in Sneed (as are a few other teams) and have been talking with Kansas City and Sneed's agent.


And the stalemate seems to be about the contract terms....Sneed wants to be the highest paid CB in terms of AAV.

I would rather see the Colts draft Quinyon Mitchell from Toledo.

If the reason the Chiefs would trade him is because of his salary demands, then he should be available by a trade with a much lower draft pick(s). Anything below 3 would make this a good trade. If you have to give up a high draft pick and still pay big bucks to sign him, then I hope they pass.

Kinda sets a bad precedent to pay an outsider more than you paid any of your own guys

Not really religious, but I recall a parable about each worker being paid what they agreed upon.

I wouldn't worry too much about this point.

I think Ballard has a fairly good reputation about paying Colts players (even a few times when he didn't have to extend / restructure at the time).

And the precedent has already been set - it would be a similar situation to the trade for Buckner and immediately paying him a new big contract.

Not to mention the fact that most teams pay UFAs more than current players on their roster all of the time.

Similar situation for sure…. We could’ve stayed put and drafted Kinlaw, instead they chose the proven guy

Now it’s go all in on Sneed or draft Mitchell

Shefter just pretty much clowned Destin Adams. There never was a trade in place & the Colts & KC never even had a discussion. Snead ain’t coming to Indy & never was. The end.

That was brutal. They have not had talks what-so-ever and Sneed wants a long term deal. Holder was right.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV8PSj-hQvw

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Holder was just on JMV, said the same thing

Said they had discussions about signing Hunter and asked about Sneed at the combine and when they didn’t get Hunter they pretty much resigned all their own guys

Said he’s expecting CB to be the round 1 pick

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Trade: Chiefs are finalizing a deal to send franchise CB L’Jarius Snead to the Titans, per league sources.

Chiefs are expected to receive a 2025 3rd-round pick, in addition to a 2024 7th-round pick flop, while Snead will sign a new contract. Trade is pending physical for Sneed.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...69568109273229

Ballarded once more... can't stand the dude.

When we miss the playoffs yet again & probably finish in 3rd place in the division maybe then Irsay will figure out that he needs to go.

Ballard, wtf?

How does this trade make any sense for the Titans?

Are they a CB away from competing for deep runs in the playoffs? It's dumb!

From the Colts perspective...I'm sorry but I'm not in love with Sneed. The trade compensation is not a concern. It's the quality of the player vs the value of the contract.

For comparison, Sneed is not anywhere in the same stratosphere as Revis island.

I understand the frustration, but there are a lot of factors that we don't and won't ever know. Yes, the Titans got him for a 3 next year, but the Chiefs may be thinking that it's very likely that the Titans will have a high pick next year. They may have wanted a 2025 2 from the Colts, since it's much more likely that the Colts will have a much lower pick than the Titans in 2025. Then there's the issues with Sneed. First, we have no idea what the medicals on his knee are, but apparently they were concerning for several NFL teams. Many of the same people who are complaining that Ballard didn't pull the trigger on this now are the same people who would say "Ballard got fleeced by the Chiefs" if he gave up next year's 2 and Sneed suffered a season ending knee injury in camp or at the beginning of the season. Finally, the Colts have a very unique disadvantage in the NFL, as they are the only team in a division where all of their division rivals don't have a state income tax, but they do. Which leads me to the other Sneed issue, contract compensation. We'll never know if the Colts were actually in on Sneed or not, but there were rumors at one point that he wanted 22m AAV, and he ended up signing for 19m AAV. Yes, those rumors could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sneed would want more from the Colts than he would from the Titans to compensate for the tax difference.

I read 4-years/$76m with $55m of it guaranteed. That's a shitload guaranteed with an injury concern.

He probably told Ballard he wanted a ham sandwich free from the cafeteria every day and Ballard called his bluff on that shit. Over three years, prob saved the franchise $432. Good move Ballard, good fucking move.

Constantly, perpetually, hypothesizing why the dude sits on his hands as some form of justification for him just SUCKING as a GM. Dude is just lazy and entitled and doesn't give a fuck about much other than that paycheck.

If there were medical concerns then fair enough. The other possible excuses I'm not buying. We could have outbid Teen w/ a 3rd rounder this year or included a day 3 pick instead of a swap as the kicker, etc. Also, the IN income tax rate per the IN.gov website is 3.05%, which for $19M is $665K. Obviously to us that's a shit ton of money, but in terms of NFL salary cap it's a drop in the bucket.

Yeah, I’m off the Sneed bandwagon. He was the most penalized cornerback in the league in 2023. He’s also 27 and coming off a serious knee injury. He’s never made a pro bowl or an all pro.

He’s a much more expensive Rock Ya-Sin.

I’ll pass on that much money for that player.

Also, what in the hell are the Titans doing? If Levis is really good their moves may make sense but nobody knows how good he is yet.

Seems like they’re putting an awful lot of eggs in that basket.

Honestly wasn’t a big fan of trying to get Sneed anyway, he played in a way more aggressive defense that isn’t happening here. Colts defense is built on front 4 pressure. No need to overpay a guy looking to cash out because he’s already a champion. Value just wasn’t there for the Colts especially when there’s a lot of good CBs in this years draft

I characterize it as- playing as if every year offers a chance. Injuries to opponents, lack of chemistry, etc... this is the NFL, you just never know- and the Colts of 23-24 are a prime example with the loss of AR but right there until the very final play of their season with a career backup.

To me, that's the difference betwen a good GM and a bum, not planning 27 fucking years downstream, instead putting all the eggs in a basket looking to win each year. Ballard's still strategizing for 2027 being "the year" --- his strategy fucking doesn't work, the proof is in the results. 1 PO win in 8 years, no division titles.... he fucking sucks.

We could have had Sneed but dipshit Ballard drafted the legendary QB Jacob Eason instead.

So the following 2023 Titans have already signed with other teams:
RB - Derrick Henry - we all know how good he is
DT - Denico Autry - 11.5 sacks last year
LB - Azeez Al-Shaair - starting LB with 141 tackles
CB - Sean Murphy-Bunting - started 10 games last year
C - Aaron Brewer Started every game last 2 years.
T - Andre Dillard - Started 10 games last year.
WR - Chris Moore - 5 game starter with over 400 yards receiving.
CB - Kristian Fulton - Started all games played over past 3 years (35)


They then have the following guys who are free agents:
QB - Ryan Tannehill - again we know all about him.
S - Terrell Edmunds - Their 3 safety.
T - Chris Hubbard - started all 9 games until injury last year.
TE - Trevon Wesco - started 10 games as the No. 2 TE.
DL - Kyle Peko - started 10 games
DL - Marlon Davidson - started 3 games.



They have signed:
RB - Tony Pollard - a rotational back, nowhere near the level of Henry
WR - Calvin Ridley - will help the offense
C - Lloyd Cushenberry - big money signee from Broncos, who has started every game he has played in.
LB - Kenneth Murray - Chargers declined his 5th year option, a decent player, but nothing special.
QB - Mason Rudolph - who cares?
OL - Saahdiq Charles - Considered a bust in Washington.
NT - Sebastian Joseph - cut by the Chargers towards end of last year.
CB - Chidobe Awuzie - A decent player, but lost his starting role to a rookie last year.
CB - L'Jarius Sneed - a very good CB


Do we really think that the Titans are better after free agency????

Who cares? The point is that we're not.

Because people are trying to make the point that the rest of the teams in the AFC south are suddenly so much better than the Colts. Which I just disagree with on so many levels.

The Colts philosophy has always been the draft, so our natural improvement is through the development of our own players and them improving year on year. So next year the young guys who saw playing time will be improved etc.

Can you say we have got worse? If not and our roster has remained much the same, come next year we are likely to be better.

Other teams have a similar philosophy and their rosters will of course develop as well. But the Colts are consistently one of the better teams in terms of the draft.

We also manage our cap really well, so that we don't lose players year after year that we might want to keep.

What we have missed for quite a few years is elite QB play. Which hopefully we have now secured, but that is still to be proven.

In my opinion, and i know not everyone agrees with this, is that this is probably one of the best rosters i can recall the Colts having from top to bottom. The fact that we were able to be competitive in almost every game is testament to that, along with quality coaching. But coaches are meant to be getting the maximum out of players, and then making the right calls in the crucial moments of games.

I think this cements a corner (Mitchell/Arnold) in round one now. I’m fine with that but am still a bit miffed that we haven’t brought in some more outside talent to start, provide depth, or provide a solid veteran presence. I wonder if one of Simmons, Blackmon, Clowney, or Gilmore is still within the budget.

I also wonder if i am actually in the minority with my opinion that the roster is good. Or if it just the whiney bitchy community who complain when the sun rises in the east each day, and that they just shout the loudest.

I was thinking the same thing until Mitchell’s pro day and he said he’s not met with the Colts, almost makes you wonder if they might go Chop Robinson or Latu

The colts dodged a bullet not signing Sneed. Too much money for not a true shutdown corner

Please demonstrate this "SUCKING as a GM" you refer to. His job is putting talent on the roster, and the roster was talented enough last year that it almost won the division with the backup QB starting 13 games, and it was the backup QB that cost them that chance in the end. He's also consistently pulled 2 or more starters out of every draft class, and quite frankly has been a better overall drafter than Bill Polian, who is a Hall of Famer and as a GM responsible for the most successful era of Colts football.

I believe it was a combination of all of the factors listed above, but honestly we don't even really know if the Colts were ever in on him at all. Schefter says they weren't, but I'm not 100% sure I buy that. As far as the state tax thing, you're leaving out the local tax that pushes Indiana's tax rate closer to 5% and varies based on both where you live and work.

But I will say that if the Colts could've gotten him for a similar package, then I really hope their problem was that they didn't like the medicals, because the trade compensation was a bargain price and the contract he signed isn't terrible if he continues to perform at a high level and doesn't get hurt.