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Chromeburn 10-23-2023 09:01 PM

Week 7 vs the Browns - Stats and Stuff
 
Im still pissed about this game. I’ll start with the fumble that was negated by a penalty.

https://x.com/colts_law/status/17166...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

Chromeburn 10-23-2023 09:01 PM

Josh Downs is progressing nicely.

Downs’ current pace as a Colts rookie vs other receivers:

80 receptions (1st)
973 yards (2nd)
5 TDs (T6th)

https://x.com/baldynfl/status/171646...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

Chromeburn 10-23-2023 09:07 PM

The Colts are the only team in the NFL this year to score at least 20 points every game.

ChoppedWood 10-23-2023 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280351)
The Colts are the only team in the NFL this year to score at least 20 points every game.

What an enormous departure from last year, so fucking refreshing.

Hoopsdoc 10-23-2023 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280350)
Josh Downs is progressing nicely.

Downs’ current pace as a Colts rookie vs other receivers:

80 receptions (1st)
973 yards (2nd)
5 TDs (T6th)

https://x.com/baldynfl/status/171646...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

Downs is already a stud. He’s a poor man’s TY Hilton in my opinion.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-23-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280350)
Josh Downs is progressing nicely.

Downs’ current pace as a Colts rookie vs other receivers:

80 receptions (1st)
973 yards (2nd)
5 TDs (T6th)


Stats of Colts WR's through their first 7 games of their rookie season:

Most Receptions:

33 - Josh Downs
30 - Austin Collie
25 - Marvin Harrison
24 - T.Y. Hilton, Alec Pierce, and Michael Pittman Jr.

Most Receiving Yards:

428 - Bill Brooks
401 - Josh Downs
373 - Alec Pierce
355 - T.Y. Hilton
302 - Michael Pittman Jr.
297 - Marvin Harrison

Chromeburn 10-23-2023 10:09 PM

Colts have played against three of the top ten defenses in the league. The Browns were 1 and have dropped to 10 after playing the colts.

https://i.ibb.co/QfqHDjH/IMG-3558.jpg


https://x.com/zachhicks2/status/1716...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

Chromeburn 10-23-2023 10:11 PM

Colts have two DEs in the top 11 in Run stop win rate.

https://i.ibb.co/0FpTC4p/IMG-3557.jpg

Chromeburn 10-23-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 280353)
What an enormous departure from last year, so fucking refreshing.

Gotta admit I was not in favor of firing Reich, but it looks like it was the right move.

Although I didn’t know about the lack of discipline and accountability at the time.

ChaosTheory 10-23-2023 11:59 PM

Outside of the blown 69-yarder by Ford... the rest of the game CLE had 71 plays for 247 yards at 3.4 yards-per-play. 81 rush yards at 2.5ypc.

The fact that they scored 39 points is bananas. This was even more of a '22 loss than last week. These were negative plays that were augmented into the worst possible case scenario over and over.

Chromeburn 10-24-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 280366)
Outside of the blown 69-yarder by Ford... the rest of the game CLE had 71 plays for 247 yards at 3.4 yards-per-play. 81 rush yards at 2.5ypc.

The fact that they scored 39 points is bananas. This was even more of a '22 loss than last week. These were negative plays that were augmented into the worst possible case scenario over and over.

The Browns scored on 4 drives of 10 yards or less.

The defense gave up only two drives that went longer than 40 yards. One was the early TD run at the beginning of the game.

Chromeburn 10-24-2023 08:06 PM

So already the Colts are 12th in offensive DVOA and 6th in ppg, tied with KC, and 1 ppg behind PHI, while facing a tough defensive schedule.

But Gardner Minshew is the NFL's lowest graded QB by PFF (with Ridder).

And they are 20th in EPA/play and 28th in offensive success rate. So it means the offense is succeeding despite being dragged down by bad individual QB play. Wild.

https://i.ibb.co/PGgvqNW/IMG-3559.jpg

Chromeburn 10-24-2023 08:11 PM

Listening to NFL radio and they had the lead spokesman for the nfl referring on going over controversial calls this weekend. He basically said the Colts got screwed. The first penalty should not have happened bc neither player impeded the other. Also the ball was already fumbled.

Dewey 5 10-24-2023 10:33 PM

And the NFL admitted they fucked up.

ChaosTheory 10-25-2023 09:28 AM

Oh, good! So now we're 4-3...

Right?

albany ed 10-25-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 280445)
Oh, good! So now we're 4-3...

Right?

Wrong. Still 3* and 4* but the asterisks mean the NFL FUCKED UP. Colts will get a draft pick after Mr Irrelevant is selected. :D

Chromeburn 10-25-2023 12:51 PM

The offense to this point.

https://x.com/robinslucas/status/171...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

YDFL Commish 10-25-2023 01:23 PM

Like I've said many times...this team is fun to watch again!

Every game is different offensively, with how we attack teams. I feel like every team in the league knew what play was coming with Reich calling plays.

Now we have formation variation, different looks for different situations. It has become totally modern, yet still not gimmicky.

We are the only team in the NFL to have scored at least 20 pts. in every game. Last season it was a struggle to score 20 pts. in any game.

A lot of the same players but a much different result.

Chromeburn 10-25-2023 04:12 PM

Pass protection on pure pass plays. No play action, screens, short throws under 2 seconds, and no defensive blitzes- just four rushers.

Also, Kelly is the highest graded center in the NFL.

https://i.ibb.co/Qp3vpLG/IMG-3563.jpg

YDFL Commish 10-26-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280492)
Pass protection on pure pass plays. No play action, screens, short throws under 2 seconds, and no defensive blitzes- just four rushers.

Also, Kelly is the highest graded center in the NFL.

https://i.ibb.co/Qp3vpLG/IMG-3563.jpg

A lot makes sense, but how can the Raiders be that bad with such good O-line play?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-26-2023 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 280554)
A lot makes sense, but how can the Raiders be that bad with such good O-line play?


Easy.

They have an idiot as their head coach.

He makes such brilliant decisions such as:

Deciding to kick a FG when down by 8 with only 2:22 left in the game. The Raiders ended up losing the game by 5.


https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-hea...ith-2-22-to-go

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Down eight with 2:22 left to go, Las Vegas Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels went for three on Sunday night.

Not long after, the Raiders lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers by five, 23-18, and the math added up to a 1-2 start to the Silver and Black's season.

It was a confounding decision -- even more so considering McDaniels made the choice to go for a field goal twice on his team's penultimate possession. He stood by his call, however.

"You have two choices there," McDaniels said after the game. "You try to make it a five-point game where you have an opportunity to win it with a touchdown if you get the ball back. Or you try to go for it there, and if you happen to convert you have to make the two-point conversion, all the rest of it. So, those are the decisions you've got to make. I thought we did a decent job putting ourselves in third down there the next series with the defense to try to have a play to get off the field, and we just didn't handle that play very well."

As it played out, Daniel Carlson's 26-yard field goal trimmed the Raiders' deficit to the final score with 2:22 to play. However, while McDaniels' decision cut the deficit, it also cut the Raiders' win probability by 5.4%, per Next Gen Stats. Had Las Vegas rolled the dice on fourth down, its win probability was 13.9% in comparison to 8.5% kicking a field goal. Odds are big in Vegas, but McDaniels didn't see it that way.

Asked if bringing on Carlson was an indictment of his confidence in the offense, McDaniels replied, "No. No."

Asked to explain, things got a bit more muddled.

"You're going to need another possession anyway; you know what I mean?" McDaniels said. "So, it's not a lack of confidence. We went for it multiple times."

McDaniels went for it twice on fourth down and the Raiders were 1 of 2 in the game. This time out, he didn't go for it, because, per his explanation, he needed two possessions to win the game.

Had the Raiders scored a touchdown and a two-point conversion, yes, they would've needed another possession to win it. But overtime obviously would've sufficed. Had they scored six and failed on a two-point attempt, they would've needed to get the ball back for a chance to score a game-winner -- just as was a given to happen with a field goal. And had they failed going for it on fourth, they would've been in a similar situation of needing to get the ball back in an attempt to tie it with the same eight-point deficiency.

The odds weren't great for the Raiders, but a field goal attempt was puzzling in the category of conventional wisdom. All the more so when adding the offense's turnaround after sputtering through the first three quarters.

Trailing, 23-7, in the fourth quarter with 11:32 remaining, the Raiders made a game out of it when Jimmy Garoppolo connected with Davante Adams for a 1-yard touchdown and then hit Michael Mayer on the ensuing two-point conversion.

Las Vegas' defense subsequently forced a second straight three-and-out and the Raiders offense was back at it. Stalled at the Pittsburgh 29-yard line, McDaniels elected to go for a 48-yard Carlson field goal with 3:11 to go. The choice seemed stunning at the time, but it made no matter as the Raiders received renewed hope when Pittsburgh was flagged for leverage on the FG attempt.

With a fresh new set of downs, Garoppolo and Co. gained just six yards to set up fourth-and-4 from the Pittsburgh 8.

Carlson trotted back out, did his job and left the Raider Nation scratching its collective spiked helmet.

The Raiders' last gasp came with possession from their 15-yard line with 12 seconds to go after the Steelers were able to get a first down before a marvelous Pressley Harvin III punt.

Las Vegas' faintest of final hopes were officially dashed when Garoppolo threw an interception.

Carlson's field goal stood as the game's final score, the Raiders having brought three points to an eight-point fight.

ChaosTheory 10-26-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 280554)
A lot makes sense, but how can the Raiders be that bad with such good O-line play?

I haven't watched any Raiders this year, I don't think. But they're only 3-4.

That aside, this stat is only pass-blocking with several parameters. Quick look, they're dead last in rushing offense, 24th in rushing defense. Garoppolo has missed 2 games (big fucking surprise).

Whatever it is, they've only hit 20+ points once (21), so something's not working.

YDFL Commish 10-26-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 280563)
I haven't watched any Raiders this year, I don't think. But they're only 3-4.

That aside, this stat is only pass-blocking with several parameters. Quick look, they're dead last in rushing offense, 24th in rushing defense. Garoppolo has missed 2 games (big fucking surprise).

Whatever it is, they've only hit 20+ points once (21), so something's not working.

Probably McDunce? I can't believe that Ballard was going to hire that guy!

Chromeburn 10-27-2023 08:38 AM

So another issue with the Browns game. On the blocked field goal, apparently the NT held down the snapper’s head so Garret could jump over him. Yet another missed call.

https://i.ibb.co/W6XmTW9/IMG-3568.jpg
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Chromeburn 10-27-2023 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 280578)
Probably McDunce? I can't believe that Ballard was going to hire that guy!

Not just Ballard. Just about everyone in the league. He is about to dismantle that team like he did the Broncos. Now contrast that with Steichen who is working with and building around what he has.

apballin 10-27-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280621)
So another issue with the Browns game. On the blocked field goal, apparently the NT held down the snapper’s head so Garret could jump over him. Yet another missed call.

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The guy to the right is holding Nelson down also

omahacolt 10-27-2023 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280361)
Gotta admit I was not in favor of firing Reich, but it looks like it was the right move.

Although I didn’t know about the lack of discipline and accountability at the time.

it was pretty clear to me there was no accountability.

Chromeburn 10-27-2023 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 280673)
it was pretty clear to me there was no accountability.

From guys not losing their jobs?

Racehorse 10-27-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 280628)
The guy to the right is holding Nelson down also

Not sure this has been mentioned, but there was a penalty called on the Clowns earlier in the game. The ref announced the penalty. Five seconds later, he reversed the call with no explanation.

I have also heard the back judge who called the two penalties was the same ref who got a bad name in the Deflategate game. Dude hates the Colts

Chromeburn 10-27-2023 09:20 PM

From an ESPN article looking at FA acquisitions around the league and how they are doing so far.

https://i.ibb.co/4VmMXd3/IMG-3573.jpg

Chromeburn 10-28-2023 09:12 PM

https://i.ibb.co/SJQR9Rg/IMG-3584.jpg

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-29-2023 09:12 AM

Jaylon Jones has been playing well for a rookie CB:


https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/statu...27939938840939

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Since week 5 of this season, Colts' rookie CB Jaylon Jones has allowed the fewest receptions (4) and yards after catch (8) among all corners with at least 86 snaps.

He also leads all corners by a wide margin with 24.8 coverage snaps per reception allowed.

https://twitter.com/DanPizzuta/statu...62492029165569

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We talk a lot about rookie WRs now producing immediately but CBs are doing it too.

Among 107 cornerbacks with at least 100 coverage snaps, the top three in yards allowed per coverage snap are rookies Joey Porter Jr, DJ Turner, and Jaylon Jones.

Devon Witherspoon is seventh.

Joey Porter Jr was drafted in Round 2 (Pick 32)

DJ Turner was drafted in Round 2 (Pick 60)

Devon Witherspoon was drafted in Round 1 (Pick 5)

Jaylon Jones was drafted in Round 7 (Pick 221)

omahacolt 10-29-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 280678)
From guys not losing their jobs?

from the guys playing so poorly. that much bad play from solid players doesn't happen when there is leadership and accountability in the locker room


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