Colts QB Anthony Richardson leaves game with injury to throwing shoulder
 

A disturbing trend

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...23518572658942

Not good. Will miss several weeks at best. If it is a bad one could require surgery. Hope for a grade 1. Kid is a walking injury so far. Lets hope it is just bad luck.

I think you're jumping the gun a bit Oldcolt. Relax I bet it's not as bad you might think.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1711321062577774679

If its a 3 grade, its a torn or ruptured ligament. Thats not good

Yikes yea grade 3 is the worse, a complete tear of that ligament.

I think we need to start to ask if AR’s body is just not cut out for the NFL. He’s only finished one game out of the four he’s started and he missed another one completely.

At this point it’s fair to wonder if he’ll ever stay healthy.

If not, the Colts need to start looking forward.

There was an easier way to keep him on the field. Teach him to run out of bounds

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...68846819348659

The play he was hurt on was closer to the middle of the field, and he was headed towards the sideline.

this absolutely sucks.


way too much time missed this year. easy schedule this year provides experience as well as confidence.

He was outside the numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HwejN_19pM

Lets hope this is the end of planned runs, at least for this year. This kid is brittle, huge but breaks very easy. He now has a throwing shoulder that is injured and weakened. He doesn't need any more designed plays that assure he takes a hit. There is a damn good chance he made need surgery if it is a grade three and be out the entire year. The question in the back of my mind this entire time has been if we don't want to sign a running back to a long term deal because they get hurt all the time and it affects their play why is it such a great idea to make your QB into a part time running back? This morning it seem downright idiotic.

I watched a guy on youtube (yea real smart I know) claim it is unlikely to be a grade 3 because that involves multiple tears that causes the clavicle to appear elevated on x ray, and he thinks that because they did not see this on the xray ray done in the stadium (hence why he was not ruled out initially, but was still questionable) then its more likely to be a grade 2 injury, 4-6 weeks. That's still a long time though. If its grade 3, then it could be a season ender.

It's the gamble we've made that, so far, isn't working out in our favor. Guys have pointed out that Lamar Jackson has missed the final month of the past two seasons (including a playoff game).

The thing is, you can't not use AR as a runner. Steichen said as much in his presser (or as close to it as Steichen will get in a presser).

Of course you don't have to have planned runs as part of his game. He can still use his amazing gifts as a runner when plays break down. Running backs have shorter careers from taking all those hits, the exact same thing will happen to AR. It already is.

That can’t be good.

Sprained AC joint is what Derek Carr had, not sure how many games he missed, but he's back and had a good game yesterday!

I don't know - at this point, I think they are still just gathering info.

Earlier this morning, Josina Anderson had indicated that Richardson was hoping to gather 3 medical opinions and that everything was on the table as far as treatment / recovery.

Richardson and the Colts weren't ruling anything out until they hear from a few different doctors.

By my count, he’s been hurt on roughly half the hits he’s taken in the nfl. That’s unsustainable even if he never runs again.

And the sample size is getting too big for it to be a fluke.

That is one reason why I wasn't so sure AR was the best choice for us, he's played so few games we had no idea how durable he was....looks like he's made of glass!

Typically if you get good news the first time you don’t go for another opinion.

RG3, anyone?

I'll say it, right now we are a better team with Gardner. Richardson is a freak of nature that Gardner doesn't come close to matching, but he doesn't do dumb shit. He doesn't beat us when we lose. He is definitely more accurate than Richardson and that will probably never change. He is a far superior athlete and his arm strength is unreal. If he can stay healthy and continue to progress we have us a beast, sans the accuracy thing. I am not sure that can be coached out of a player. Right now, this moment, this season we are better with Gardner. Say we win every game while Anthony is out? What do they do when he is ready to come back?

I think they still play Richardson. It was obvious after the Baltimore game that Minshew gives us the greater likelihood of winning now, and that its clear they are more interested in developing AR (and tolerating a few extra losses) than they are winning right now.
I think that's reasonable even, because losses now might payoff in more wins down the road if you let AR develop and learn, which only comes from playing time.

Also, I mentioned in the other thread... it's not just big hits you worry about. He just has more chances to land on a shoulder wrong, slam the back of his head off the turf, twist a knee, twist an ankle, pull a hamstring, etc.

I'd love for him to develop into Andrew Luck as a passer with all the arm talent in the world so that your athleticism is purely a luxury. But that's unlikely. So his athleticism is more used out of necessity (for lack of a better phrase).

I wouldn’t go that far. Minshew has had the luxury of coming off the bench and not being the guy defenses have planned for. Even the game he started AR wasn’t ruled out until late in the week.

Once teams know he’ll be the starter, they’ll be a lot more effective playing him.

Also, AR has been sneaky good when he plays. I don’t think Minshew comes back from down 23-0 the way he did.

If he is, best to know that before his rookie contract ends.

I'm seriously bummed out. We paid that dickhead Taylor for no reason. Malki Kawa is holding our organization hostage with his Leonard and dickhead Taylor contracts. And now our rookie QB is severely injured and can't stay healthy. Too late to tank for Williams. We finally beat the 'tacks. Yay. Bummed...

7 tds vs 2. AR is more dangerous. Gardner is more accurate as a passer, but AR is the mismatch that teams struggle with.

On the same token, are we down 23-0 if Gardner started? I hope AR heals quickly. I would love to see a 6-7 game sample size to watch it progress. No denying his unlimited ability, but the NFL could be pile is full of unlimited ability players who didn't work out. As a homer I hope AR doesn't end up there. I made it perfectly clear I didn't want no part of this QB class, but I hope he makes me eat my words and makes me sorry I said it.

Throw him back in there, you're out of the QB sweepstakes for this year at this point. This team needs a franchise QB, not another stopgap.

Gardner is not a franchise Qb. He is smart, a good leader, understands how leaders function, and a good team mate. But he can be defended if the colts are behind and time is running out. AR has a better arm than Luck. When the throws deep the throw doesnt have a hump in it. Best example is John Elway, his own receivers were afraid of him.

The problem with AR, even in college, he was the best athlete on the field. Thats not true now. He will learn to throw it away or run out of bounds or have a short career. The only way he figures it out is he keeps landing on the injury list. Play him, and hope he gets smarter.

The entire mood will change once we go from playing with house money with a rookie phenom... to treating Minshew as the next one-and-done QB and expecting wins because the rest of the roster has the talent.

Like Hoopsdoc mentioned, defenses haven't gameplanned as much for him aside from BAL where Minshew was VERY close to having a few of those catastrophic, game-altering turnovers. Hopefully he avoids that. But we'll see how DC's try to expose his limitations.

A big reason we're 3-2 is because we have 4 total turnovers. Last year, through five games, we had 11. And we can remember that they were often that catastrophic variety in your own territory and whatever else.

There’s a reason any team could have signed Minshew.

He’s an ideal back up buts he’s a marginal starter at best.

Come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen AR slide.

Proves my point that he was headed towards the sideline.

Proves my point he should started sooner

You have no point. Watch the play again and tell me how he would have started sooner. You just like to argue.

And that silly link you posted was about a doctor, and really didn't show the whole play.

I think he He slid on Sunday.