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YDFL Commish 09-12-2023 04:47 PM

Would you trade Minshew...
 
to the Jets, and what would you're asking price be? The way I look at it, with that roster, I think they could win with Minshew.

Plus if AR goes down we're fucked anyway. Probably go from a 5 win team to a 2 win team.

CletusPyle 09-12-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 274332)
to the Jets, and what would you're asking price be? The way I look at it, with that roster, I think they could win with Minshew.

Plus if AR goes down we're fucked anyway. Probably go from a 5 win team to a 2 win team.

I was thinking the same thing, not sure what the Jets would have to offer?

ChoppedWood 09-12-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 274332)
to the Jets, and what would you're asking price be? The way I look at it, with that roster, I think they could win with Minshew.

Plus if AR goes down we're fucked anyway. Probably go from a 5 win team to a 2 win team.

1st is what they are talking about for a guy like Kyler Murray. Hell yeah I'd take a 1st for him.

Then you can accept a 2nd for JT.

2 1sts and 2 2nds and we're ready to explode 2 years from now.

Racehorse 09-12-2023 05:31 PM

Interesting question. If not for the fact we have no real experience at QB to mentor AR on the sidelines, I would be in favor. well, that and the fact it would leave us with Sam if AR got really hurt.

Hoopsdoc 09-12-2023 05:32 PM

I mean, if they offer a 1st or even a 2nd you take it and run.

But that’s not gonna happen absent some kind of previous connection on the Jets coaching staff that I’m unaware of.

JAFF 09-12-2023 05:35 PM

No.

They are building for the long term.

YDFL Commish 09-12-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 274343)
No.

They are building for the long term.

So you're saying Minshew is part of the future?

JAFF 09-12-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 274346)
So you're saying Minshew is part of the future?

Having a mentor, someone who has experience for a young QB who has limited time under center makes sense. The Jets arent giving up a 1st or second round pick for Minschew. They will need it for next year.

IndyNorm 09-12-2023 07:09 PM

The thought crossed my mind as well. Doubt the Jets would give up anything more than a day 3 draft pick for Minshew, so makes sense to keep him here as AR's mentor.

JAFF 09-12-2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 274358)
The thought crossed my mind as well. Doubt the Jets would give up anything more than a day 3 draft pick for Minshew, so makes sense to keep him here as AR's mentor.

Trading Minshew doesnt make the team better. AR got banged around and he didnt finish the game, they may need him if AR misses some time. Tells the D they are going to be competitive

IndyNorm 09-12-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 274359)
Trading Minshew doesnt make the team better. AR got banged around and he didnt finish the game, they may need him if AR misses some time. Tells the D they are going to be competitive

Barring a really good offer from the Jets I agree w/ you.

Oldcolt 09-12-2023 08:42 PM

I haven’t given up on this season. I want this team to do everything it can to win, we are just one game in. I’m hoping we have a pretty damn good team by the end of the year.Keep him, he helps AR and the way AR plays we will need him by the end of the year

Dam8610 09-12-2023 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 274332)
to the Jets, and what would you're asking price be? The way I look at it, with that roster, I think they could win with Minshew.

Plus if AR goes down we're fucked anyway. Probably go from a 5 win team to a 2 win team.

I don't think Minshew would be their first target on the trade market. In fact, I would guess they would try several free agents before losing draft capital to acquire Minshew.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-12-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 274358)
The thought crossed my mind as well. Doubt the Jets would give up anything more than a day 3 draft pick for Minshew, so makes sense to keep him here as AR's mentor.

Agreed.

FWIW - the Jags received a 6th Round Pick from Philly when they traded Minshew 2 years ago.

I understand the hope that the Jets might act in desperation, but I doubt they would offer too much for Minshew. I guess you could use the Joshua Dobbs trade this year as a comp - Arizona completed a pick swap where they traded a 5th Round Pick to acquire Dobbs and a 7th in return.

And even if you want to say that Minshew >>> Dobbs, I still don't see the Jets giving up more than a 4th.

The Jets will probably be kicking the tires of the FA QB's first, they may bring in Wentz, Foles, Flacco, etc for a workout.

ukcolt 09-13-2023 04:11 AM

Why are the Jets going to make any moves? They have Zach Wilson, who has more potential than Minshew. Looks like the relationship that he has built with Rodgers has helped him from what i have seen of Hard Knocks. It will be interesting to see how that relationship between the two develops now.

ChoppedWood 09-13-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 274376)
Why are the Jets going to make any moves? They have Zach Wilson, who has more potential than Minshew. Looks like the relationship that he has built with Rodgers has helped him from what i have seen of Hard Knocks. It will be interesting to see how that relationship between the two develops now.

Watch the pick he threw shortly after entering the game. Watch Peyton's face when he is basically detailing that Wilson is now the starter. Wilson's only potential is to lose a majority of the games he plays.

HoosierinFL 09-13-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 274376)
Why are the Jets going to make any moves? They have Zach Wilson, who has more potential than Minshew. Looks like the relationship that he has built with Rodgers has helped him from what i have seen of Hard Knocks. It will be interesting to see how that relationship between the two develops now.

Worth mentioning that Zach Wilson and a good running game just beat the Bills, not Aaron Rodgers, so yea, I have a feeling they aren't trading draft capital for a new starting QB.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-13-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 274376)
Why are the Jets going to make any moves? They have Zach Wilson, who has more potential than Minshew. Looks like the relationship that he has built with Rodgers has helped him from what i have seen of Hard Knocks. It will be interesting to see how that relationship between the two develops now.


I believe the general thought is that the Jets are going to look for an upgrade of QB2 - someone better than Tim Boyle - especially if their QB1 is Zach Wilson.

Wilson has been absolutely awful against the division rival Cheats. Be nice to have a viable alternative on the roster by Week 3 in case he melts down against Belicheat again.

ChoppedWood 09-13-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 274412)
I believe the general thought is that the Jets are going to look for an upgrade of QB2 - someone better than Tim Boyle - especially if their QB1 is Zach Wilson.

Wilson has been absolutely awful against the division rival Cheats. Be nice to have a viable alternative on the roster by Week 3 in case he melts down against Belicheat again.

The problem they face is, that team was built for a RAMS esque run at the SB- this year and perhaps next. All the pieces are there except a QB. There is zero chance of them getting beyond first round with Wilson as the QB even if they somehow manage to sneak into the PO's with him under center. They need their Flacco (yeah he's been there and that ship has sailed), Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer level QB to still give them a chance to still win the SB this year, and with that type of QB- manager, limited mistakes, good leader, they have a very real chance at it. Minshew is in that mold.

IMO they are forced to pay up for someone who still gives them a chance, otherwise this window is probably going to close. Williams, Sauce, Wilson- all three are going to command perhaps tops at their position coming up. They HAVE to upgrade for this year, unless they just want to suck, get another great pick and roll into next year thinking Rodgers comes back and they win it with even more talent. Biiiiiiiiig if at his age and all the weird shit he does.

Chromeburn 09-13-2023 03:51 PM

Price would be minimal. I think he has more value to us helping AR understand the offensive scheme.

omahacolt 09-13-2023 04:32 PM

colts fans overrate minshew a lot

YDFL Commish 09-13-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 274428)
colts fans overrate minshew a lot

I don't think for a minute that the Jets are doing anything until they give Wilson 3 or 4 more games. But if he fails, I believe that Minshew could win them some games to get them to the playoffs. The Jets roster is stacked other than OL.

The Jets do not have a 2nd round pick, so I doubt that Ballard would trade him for a 3rd.

Here's the thing, everybody is saying Wentz is the logical choice. How is he really any better than Wilson. They will both make the same boneheaded mistakes.

IndyNorm 09-13-2023 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 274428)
colts fans overrate minshew a lot

Not when compared to Zach Wilson.


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