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smitty46953 06-29-2023 01:27 PM

Rodgers Waived
 
Per Irsay on twitter

Jim Irsay

@JimIrsay
Waived DE Rashod Berry and CB Isaiah Rodgers Sr.

smitty46953 06-29-2023 01:30 PM

Ballard Statement:

The Indianapolis Colts today waived defensive end Rashod Berry and cornerback Isaiah Rodgers Sr.

"We have made the following roster moves as a consequence of the determination that these players violated the league's gambling policy," said Colts General Manager Chris Ballard. "The integrity of the game is of the utmost importance. As an organization we will continue to educate our players, coaches, and staff on the policies in place and the significant consequences that may occur with violations."

Chromeburn 06-29-2023 02:07 PM

Too bad, I felt like he was going to have a breakout year.

Colts And Orioles 06-29-2023 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 268462)



Ballard Statement:

The Indianapolis Colts today waived defensive end Rashod Berry and cornerback Isaiah Rodgers Sr.

"We have made the following roster moves as a consequence of the determination that these players violated the league's gambling policy," said Colts General Manager Chris Ballard. "The integrity of the game is of the utmost importance. As an organization we will continue to educate our players, coaches, and staff on the policies in place and the significant consequences that may occur with violations."




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Good info ...... not necessarily the info that I wanted to hear, but good info nonetheless.

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CletusPyle 06-29-2023 03:31 PM

Wow, surprised a guy like Irsay wouldn't be all about 2nd chances....even third chances!

JAFF 06-29-2023 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 268474)
Wow, surprised a guy like Irsay wouldn't be all about 2nd chances....even third chances!

1. He is.
2. This is league sanctions. You want two guys on the roster who cant contribute?
3. This makes the colts look bad. Irsay has a big heart, but this hurts the bottom line. Thats why they fired the last head coach. Didnt win in a league where winning is the only thing

Brylok 06-29-2023 05:01 PM

Safe to presume our secondary is going to get torched this season? Smh

JAFF 06-29-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 268482)
Safe to presume our secondary is going to get torched this season? Smh

Were they starters?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 06-29-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 268483)
Were they starters?


Rodgers probably would have secured one of the starting CB spots this season.


Berry was an end of roster / practice squad type player. The Colts were already his fourth team over a 3 year career.

Brylok 06-29-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 268483)
Were they starters?

I assumed that Rodgers and Moore were going to be the starters.

YDFL Commish 06-29-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 268487)
I assumed that Rodgers and Moore were going to be the starters.

Same here, but Bradley just didn't seem to want Rodgers to start last season.

For that reason, I believe that whichever rookie CB looked the best would have gotten the starting nod over Rodgers.

Dam8610 06-29-2023 06:08 PM

I hope they pick Rodgers back up once he's reinstated. He probably would've been the starter had this not happened. Even if the Colts get nothing else out of him, he's been well worth the 6th round pick used on him.

Brylok 06-29-2023 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 268489)
Same here, but Bradley just didn't seem to want Rodgers to start last season.

For that reason, I believe that whichever rookie CB looked the best would have gotten the starting nod over Rodgers.

They still had Gilmore. I figured Rodgers would fill his spot this season. What do I know?

IndyNorm 06-29-2023 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 268480)
1. He is.
2. This is league sanctions. You want two guys on the roster who cant contribute?
3. This makes the colts look bad. Irsay has a big heart, but this hurts the bottom line. Thats why they fired the last head coach. Didnt win in a league where winning is the only thing

Unless something has changed over the past year Rodgers could have been put on Reserve/Suspended status and not counted towards the roster (or the cap I think).

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-trainin...t-nfi-and-more

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Reserve/Suspended: Any player who is currently suspended from the NFL. Such a player does not count toward roster limits and is not paid his base salary while on this list. Atlanta Falcons WR Calvin Ridley is a current example of someone on this list.
Guessing this is more about image than anything else. Like others on here I'd like to see him back if he can get it together.

IndyNorm 06-29-2023 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 268492)
They still had Gilmore. I figured Rodgers would fill his spot this season. What do I know?

Commish's take is probably based on Facyson playing more than Rodgers even though it was obvious that Rodgers is better, so Bradley probably didn't like Rodgers b/c of his size, etc.

Brylok 06-29-2023 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 268495)
Commish's take is probably based on Facyson playing more than Rodgers even though it was obvious that Rodgers is better, so Bradley probably didn't like Rodgers b/c of his size, etc.

I had honestly forgotten about Facyson. Thanks a lot.

Chromeburn 06-30-2023 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 268474)
Wow, surprised a guy like Irsay wouldn't be all about 2nd chances....even third chances!

He might get one. When he is eligible to play again.

CletusPyle 06-30-2023 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 268480)
1. He is.
2. This is league sanctions. You want two guys on the roster who cant contribute?
3. This makes the colts look bad. Irsay has a big heart, but this hurts the bottom line. Thats why they fired the last head coach. Didnt win in a league where winning is the only thing

So if the league suspends a player for the season and you want to retain him he has to take one of your roster spots? Are you sure about that?:confused:

JAFF 06-30-2023 05:21 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...ng-violations/

Colts' Isaiah Rodgers, two other NFL players receive indefinite suspensions for gambling violations

IndyNorm 06-30-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 268498)
I had honestly forgotten about Facyson. Thanks a lot.

You're welcome :p. Good news is that Facyson is somone else's problem now!

IndyNorm 06-30-2023 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 268529)
So if the league suspends a player for the season and you want to retain him he has to take one of your roster spots? Are you sure about that?:confused:

Unless the rule has changed since last year's training camp they don't (link in my earlier post).

CletusPyle 06-30-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 268537)
Unless the rule has changed since last year's training camp they don't (link in my earlier post).

Sorry, I missed your post, I didn't think that sounded fair to the team. But since the Colts cut him, I wonder what happens if the league reinstates him after one year? Would he just be a free agent?

Racehorse 06-30-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 268529)
So if the league suspends a player for the season and you want to retain him he has to take one of your roster spots? Are you sure about that?:confused:

I don't think a roster spot would be taken by a suspended player.

JAFF 06-30-2023 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 268542)
I don't think a roster spot would be taken by a suspended player.

Rogers is suspended indefinitely, so they need to waive him to fill his spot

Racehorse 07-01-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 268543)
Rogers is suspended indefinitely, so they need to waive him to fill his spot

I would have to see the league rules to know if you are correct. Calvin Ridley did not cost Atlanta a spot, did he?

IndyNorm 07-01-2023 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 268541)
Sorry, I missed your post, I didn't think that sounded fair to the team. But since the Colts cut him, I wonder what happens if the league reinstates him after one year? Would he just be a free agent?

No worries. I was just being lazy about reposting the link. I presume he would be a FA if reinstated since we released him and it doesn't look like anyone put in a waiver claim for him which isn't surprising at all.

IndyNorm 07-01-2023 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 268547)
I would have to see the league rules to know if you are correct. Calvin Ridley did not cost Atlanta a spot, did he?

Per this article he didn't. This is from Aug. '22 so maybe the rule has changed, but I doubt it.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-trainin...t-nfi-and-more

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Reserve/Suspended: Any player who is currently suspended from the NFL. Such a player does not count toward roster limits and is not paid his base salary while on this list. Atlanta Falcons WR Calvin Ridley is a current example of someone on this list.

Oldcolt 07-01-2023 07:05 PM

I see this as almost purely a business decision. It is my guess that almost everyone who is competitive as NFL types bet on something. If not their friends do. There is no moral issue here. I believe that the powers that be in the NFL think that gambling is one of the things that could burn in a huge way this billion dollar business. No way they are going to chance finding out if they are right. Rogers may come back but I would think he would have do enough public service work to become the poster boy for gamblers anonymous in his year away to have a chance.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-28-2023 05:15 PM

Rodgers found his next gig - that is, whenever his suspension is lifted.

Today the Eagles signed him and then immediately placed him on the Suspended List.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1696269260144754710

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The Eagles signed CB Isaiah Rodgers, who was then placed on the Reserve/Suspended list.

He’s out at least a year for violations of the league’s gambling policy.


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