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smitty46953 09-02-2017 04:02 PM

Luck off PUP
 
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The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

Dam8610 09-02-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 23788)
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account
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The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

Well that's heartening.

albany ed 09-02-2017 04:09 PM

That should mean he doesn't miss the first 6 games. Maybe only the first 4.

njcoltfan 09-02-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 23788)
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account
@RapSheet

The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

Well, that makes me feel a lot better !!

smitty46953 09-02-2017 04:11 PM

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Colts QB Andrew Luck passed his physical at 3:15 this afternoon, allowing him to come off PUP list. Still unlikely to play Week 1.

:cool:

Indiana V2 09-02-2017 04:37 PM

Halle-freaking-luah!

ChoppedWood 09-02-2017 05:27 PM

Finally some good news!!!!! No put the mfer in pads and get this show started!

Butter 09-02-2017 08:01 PM

Well that is good news, at least we know he is not dead.

omahacolt 09-02-2017 08:04 PM

still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

rcubed 09-02-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23914)
still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

Agree. I think they just took him off the PUP to keep all their options open but we are not seeing him anytime soon

indycolts2 09-02-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23914)
still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

The whole thing seems kind of ridiculous and IMO it started when Irsay said they decided not to have the surgery done when he missed all those games due to the lacerated kidney issue because they thought time would heal it. Since the surgery the secrecy that involved some of the most cryptic bullshit from all the main characters has contributed to the Colts beginning to look like an organization that could rival others for being dysfunctional.

Butter 09-02-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23914)
still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

Yep.

ChoppedWood 09-03-2017 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 23919)
The whole thing seems kind of ridiculous and IMO it started when Irsay said they decided not to have the surgery done when he missed all those games due to the lacerated kidney issue because they thought time would heal it. Since the surgery the secrecy that involved some of the most cryptic bullshit from all the main characters has contributed to the Colts beginning to look like an organization that could rival others for being dysfunctional.

We do look childish. It's discouraging to hear the local guys all sort of provide cover for all this clandestine BS from the team (though DD and Kravitz both seemed to sink their teeth into the very latest from Irsay with the interview last week where he explained that Luck will only come back when he is ready to come back--- no shit Jim!).

Nationally they take a fair amount of heat for how this whole Luck thing has been handled and rightfully so. I read one article flat out calling Irsay a liar in regards to Luck's health simply to prevent a collapse of the ticket base- and sadly I am not so sure I don't ascribe to that notion. What's the downside for Irsay if he keeps the spirits up by falsely claiming he's gonna play somewhere between weeks 1 and 6 but he doesn't? So we lose the 53rd man from the roster- so what. However if the buying public knows Luck is not going to be on the field, look at that home schedule during that time- those games become near pre-season games from the public's perspective. Sure some will turn out for Bruce's return the 2nd week, but Cleveland, the 9ers, the Jags? TV coverage would not be able to hide the stupid level of empty seats for those games. So I can buy into this premise that Jim knows Luck is not playing, potentially much deeper into the season if at all, but just can't bring himself to tell the world that for support reasons.

To me this is on par with both the disasters that were the Edge and Bob injury situations. The team managed to mangle both of those situations. As great as Edge was and as instrumental as Bob was to bringing home a title- you can replace those positions quickly and the fall off is not that significant, a once a generation QB- not so much.

YDFL Commish 09-03-2017 10:57 AM

One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.

njcoltfan 09-03-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 23974)
One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.

I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

Hoopsdoc 09-03-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 23978)
I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

I don't think Ballard is that dumb.

I still think Ballard agreed to roll with Chuck this year only after he realized how bad the roster was and how long it would take to fix it.

njcoltfan 09-03-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 23984)
I don't think Ballard is that dumb.

I still think Ballard agreed to roll with Chuck this year only after he realized how bad the roster was and how long it would take to fix it.

You are probably right, but installing a new system this year knowing that the team would suck,instead of waiting until next year, IMHO would have been the way to go.

VeveJones007 09-03-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 23985)
You are probably right, but installing a new system this year knowing that the team would suck,instead of waiting until next year, IMHO would have been the way to go.

How do you install a new offense when the QB can't participate? That's why the move wasn't made.

albany ed 09-04-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 23978)
I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

The only way Pagano saves his job is by going to the playoffs, and that ain't happennin'.

omahacolt 09-04-2017 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 24133)
How do you install a new offense when the QB can't participate? That's why the move wasn't made.

He can learn. Just can't put it on the field in practice. I don't buy this argument

njcoltfan 09-04-2017 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 24143)
He can learn. Just can't put it on the field in practice. I don't buy this argument

My thought too, he's not going to play for at least two weeks, so he makes a few mistakes, this is a lost season anyway you cut it. I heard a rumor that he went to Stanford, so he just might be smart enough to pick it up sooner than you think!

Racehorse 09-04-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 23974)
One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.

I would keep Luck away from Pags, too. The guy has no idea on how to handle professional athletes with or without injuries.

Hoopsdoc 09-04-2017 11:17 AM

He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

Dewey 5 09-04-2017 12:02 PM

Good. I don't care if doesn't play a single game. I do not want clappy to fuck this kid up any more than he is now.

njcoltfan 09-04-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 24174)
He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

Any word on if Luck practiced today?

Indiana V2 09-04-2017 02:03 PM

ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

ChoppedWood 09-04-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 24212)
ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

Fully deserved, 100%! I love this team but I am rapidly losing my cool with the way this whole organization operates. Jim needs to step aside ASAP and let his daughter get this thing turned around- and that starts with Choppy being sent packing. Good man, probably another in a long list of good coordinators who make bad HC's, miserable head coach incapable of executing the broad role bestowed upon him.

omahacolt 09-04-2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 24212)
ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

And what did they do wrong

Indiana V2 09-04-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 24241)
And what did they do wrong

Well, for one by not creating an O-line that can protect their franchise QB, and so Luck has been often injured, but then with all the secrecy with what's actually going on with Luck and his recovery and timetable to return.

Also, they were blasting Pagano and his comment that he hasn't seen Luck throw a football yet, and how he is staying in his lane. Mentioned he's the freaking head coach, everything is in his lane.

natagu23 09-04-2017 05:32 PM

Next man up.

Something something something....tree will eventually fall.

DrSpaceman 09-04-2017 07:14 PM

While I don't like Luck being out, I really don't have a problem with how Luck's status is being handled.

Just pisses off the media because they are keeping things as tight lipped as possible and they have nothing to report.

There is no need to rush him back to play for a few early season games. Especially when Kelly is out now too, so his risk of reinjury is even higher.

ESPN doesn't know crap about a team like the Colts. If its not the Pats, Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, they really don't pay much attention.

indycolts2 09-04-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 24241)
And what did they do wrong

Pretty much everything including the initial approach that time would heal his shoulder. Perfect time to do it was middle of 2015 season when he had to miss the last half of season. Then again maybe Luck didn't want it done, what the hell do I know. I find it odd that the guy with the repaired shoulder never days anything of substance regarding what is going on. Apparently Pagano can teach something with an assist from Irssy, how to speak in cryptic bullshit and say nothing.

IndyNorm 09-04-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 24174)
He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

Hoopsdoc 09-04-2017 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 24275)
We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

I'm guessing an 0-2 start, winning against the browns, then losing to the Seahawks and Titans. 1-4 is my prediction thru the first five.

Maybe they'll poopcan Chucky then.

Hoopsdoc 09-04-2017 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 24275)
We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

Rams game reminds me a lot of the Lions game last year. A mediocre opponent who we should beat but Clappy finds a way to screw it up.

Damn, I already hate this season, six days before it starts.

apballin 09-04-2017 09:17 PM

They'll beat the Rams

IndyNorm 09-04-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 24284)
Rams game reminds me a lot of the Lions game last year. A mediocre opponent who we should beat but Clappy finds a way to screw it up.

Damn, I already hate this season, six days before it starts.

It reminds me more of the '15 opener at Buff. Mediocre team with a good pass rush. Clappy has us completely unprepared to play as always and we get embarrassed :cool:

Funny how I used to always be super excited at the start of the season and now I pretty much couldn't care less.

IndyNorm 09-04-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 24290)
They'll beat the Rams

You do realize Clappy's record in season openers is 1-4 with the only win coming at home against a really bad Raiders team who only won 4 games that year. And after blowing a 14 point lead we were lucky to win that one.

DrSpaceman 09-04-2017 09:32 PM

The Colts could actually win the opener and some games in the first month even if Luck is out.

not saying they WILL do that, but even without Luck, the team SHOULD be able to go 2-3 or even 3-2 vs. the rams, Cardinals, browns, seahawks and 49ers.

But yes, Clappy Mcwoodchipper does nothing to improve those odds.

apballin 09-04-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 24297)
You do realize Clappy's record in season openers is 1-4 with the only win coming at home against a really bad Raiders team who only won 4 games that year. And after blowing a 14 point lead we were lucky to win that one.

The Rams are a really bad team, I'm not convinced Goff is a better QB than Tolzien. Colts run the ball, get a couple turnovers and get out of there with the W


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