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Dewey 5 01-09-2023 10:09 PM

Interview list
 
Colts have asked for permission so interview Lions OC Ben Johnson & Rams DC Raheem Morris
Ballard is heading up the search.

ChoppedWood 01-09-2023 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 257448)
Colts have asked for permission so interview Lions OC Ben Johnson & Rams DC Raheem Morris
Ballard is heading up the search.

Let's go Ben Johnson!

Puck 01-09-2023 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 257449)
Let's go Ben Johnson!

Dude he will make one freakin mistake and you will be posting ad nauseam about how he needs fired

Oldcolt 01-09-2023 10:33 PM

So Ballard stays. I hope he does a better job than the last time he looked for a coach.

ChoppedWood 01-09-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 257450)
Dude he will make one freakin mistake and you will be posting ad nauseam about how he needs fired

Bullshit, I will give him 5 mistakes before doing that!

Dam8610 01-10-2023 12:15 AM

Hope to see Demeco Ryans on this list soon.

Racehorse 01-10-2023 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 257448)
Colts have asked for permission so interview Lions OC Ben Johnson & Rams DC Raheem Morris
Ballard is heading up the search.

I do not understand why they have to ask permission. It is not a lateral move for the coaches.

JAFF 01-10-2023 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 257468)
I do not understand why they have to ask permission. It is not a lateral move for the coaches.

They are under contract to a different organization, hiring rights. If I have vince lombardi I dont want him interviewing very year and forcing me to renegotiate his deal.

Spike 01-10-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 257471)
They are under contract to a different organization, hiring rights. If I have vince lombardi I dont want him interviewing very year and forcing me to renegotiate his deal.

That would be a lateral move Jaff.

Lov2fish 01-10-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 257460)
Hope to see Demeco Ryans on this list soon.

We agree on something. Ryans should be on that list, and given serious consideration.

rcubed 01-10-2023 02:00 PM

not really surprising statement...

James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid

#Colts GM Chris Ballard: “I won’t get into who the candidates are. … I’ll lead the search. Ultimately, Mr. Irsay makes the final call.”

ukcolt 01-10-2023 02:21 PM

Head Coach - what qualities do they need to have?
 
I think ability to manage people, to communicate freely with the GM, owner. But also to be able to communicate with the other coaches, players and media.

A head coach no longer needs to be able to 'coach', they need to manage. Making the right decisions regards players when they make mistakes, sorting out the in game decisions.

Needs to have connections with coaches who are proven to be excellent coaches, and can get the best out of their players.

A head coach will only succeed in my opinion with a good scouting department, you can have the greatest coaches, who get the best out of their abilities, but you need to have high quality players to begin with, who you can then maximize their talents.

HoosierinFL 01-10-2023 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 257513)
I think ability to manage people, to communicate freely with the GM, owner. But also to be able to communicate with the other coaches, players and media.

A head coach no longer needs to be able to 'coach', they need to manage. Making the right decisions regards players when they make mistakes, sorting out the in game decisions.

Needs to have connections with coaches who are proven to be excellent coaches, and can get the best out of their players.

A head coach will only succeed in my opinion with a good scouting department, you can have the greatest coaches, who get the best out of their abilities, but you need to have high quality players to begin with, who you can then maximize their talents.

This is 100% correct.

A good HC has a vision but hires the right OC and DC to execute that and let's them do their job. The HC is the CEO, they manage the operations and make the high level decisions.

JAFF 01-10-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 257502)
That would be a lateral move Jaff.

Ahhh no Scott.

https://www.nfl.com/news/changing-co...000d5d815667b9

First 4 paragraphs.

YDFL Commish 01-10-2023 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 257513)

Needs to have connections with coaches who are proven to be excellent coaches, and can get the best out of their players.


I think, that this is the most important point. Who's your OC gonna be. Who do you like at DC. What do you think of Gus, Reggie and Bubba and why? How do you envision yourself running this team?

IndyNorm 01-10-2023 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 257538)

You should have read the 5th paragraph:

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Unless a coach already under contract is being interviewed for a head coaching job, or a personnel exec is being interviewed for a promotion to general manager that would involve final say on personnel, their existing team can block any meeting. Many out there think that only a lateral move can be blocked. That is not true on the coaching or personnel side.

IndyNorm 01-10-2023 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 257468)
I do not understand why they have to ask permission. It is not a lateral move for the coaches.

Guessing it's out of courtesy.

JAFF 01-10-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 257562)
You should have read the 5th paragraph:

Read the last sentence of your quote.

IndyNorm 01-10-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 257565)
Read the last sentence of your quote.

Read the first sentence that clearly states a team can't block someone for interviewing for a head coaching position, which is what the discussion was about since the discussion involves the Colts interviewing for the head coaching position.

Racehorse 01-10-2023 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 257538)

From the article itself:
Unless a coach already under contract is being interviewed for a head coaching job, or a personnel exec is being interviewed for a promotion to general manager that would involve final say on personnel, their existing team can block any meeting. Many out there think that only a lateral move can be blocked. That is not true on the coaching or personnel side.

Racehorse 01-10-2023 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 257570)
Read the first sentence that clearly states a team can't block someone for interviewing for a head coaching position, which is what the discussion was about since the discussion involves the Colts interviewing for the head coaching position.

Jaff is daft.

JAFF 01-10-2023 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 257502)
That would be a lateral move Jaff.

And yet they still need permission

CanuckColt 01-10-2023 09:37 PM

This is ridiculous...Ballard is just going to 'rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic'.
One of the biggest problems IS Ballard and his team building practices and how much he has over-spent on his 'preferred' positions.
This won't get solved until he leaves or is fired...next year is already a wipeout if Ballard is still round.

Dewey 5 01-10-2023 09:52 PM

Add Denver DC Ejiro Evero to the interview list

IndyNorm 01-10-2023 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 257576)
Jaff is daft.

Not only that, but the article he posted is outdated and not currently correct.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...teral%20moves.

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Under NFL rules, teams can't block position coaches from interviewing for coordinator jobs, but they're allowed to block lateral moves, such as a linebackers coach or defensive coordinator taking the same job elsewhere. In this situation, the Rams will not block any lateral moves.

JAFF 01-10-2023 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 257590)
Not only that, but the article he posted is outdated and not currently correct.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...teral%20moves.


Sorry I missed the date

From ,

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ng-candidates/

Dewey 5 01-11-2023 02:34 PM

Bubba Ventrone is interviewing today

rcubed 01-11-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 257649)
Bubba Ventrone is interviewing today

hmmm....well I know that everyone speaks highly of bubba. I would be worried about the familiarity factor with the players. When someone get elevated to the "boss" status who was previously down closer to the workers, that sometimes causes issues with authority in terms of how the power-relationship changes in between the new boss and his subordinates.

ChoppedWood 01-11-2023 06:26 PM

Jeremy Fowler reporting Harbaugh wants the Colts job.

Here's to hoping he tells Jim he only comes if Ballard is gone- the one thing I think might cause Jim to shit can the con man.

Dam8610 01-11-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 257682)
Jeremy Fowler reporting Harbaugh wants the Colts job.

Here's to hoping he tells Jim he only comes if Ballard is gone- the one thing I think might cause Jim to shit can the con man.

Looking forward to Harbaugh and Ballard working together to build a championship contender should Jim actually come in here. This is exactly the type of retread that works at head coach.

IndyNorm 01-11-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 257595)

Just giving you shit. It is interesting that at at least one point in time teams could block assistants from interviewing for promotions.

ChaosTheory 01-11-2023 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 257682)
Jeremy Fowler reporting Harbaugh wants the Colts job.

Here's to hoping he tells Jim he only comes if Ballard is gone- the one thing I think might cause Jim to shit can the con man.

Where are you reading that? Looking at Fowler's Twitter, I only see Harbaugh mentioned for the DEN job.

ChoppedWood 01-12-2023 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 257703)
Where are you reading that? Looking at Fowler's Twitter, I only see Harbaugh mentioned for the DEN job.

JMV called it out about 5:15 on the radio yesterday that Fowler reported Harbaugh wanted to come to Indy. Which with Ballard now firmly back in the fold, I can't see that happening.

Hoopsdoc 01-12-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 257727)
JMV called it out about 5:15 on the radio yesterday that Fowler reported Harbaugh wanted to come to Indy. Which with Ballard now firmly back in the fold, I can't see that happening.

The fact that they’ve mentioned 5 interview candidates and not Harbaugh tells me either the Colts aren’t interested or Harbaugh has made it clear he’s not interested.

I’d bet quite a bit of money it’s the latter.

njcoltfan 01-12-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 257734)
The fact that they’ve mentioned 5 interview candidates and not Harbaugh tells me either the Colts aren’t interested or Harbaugh has made it clear he’s not interested.

I’d bet quite a bit of money it’s the latter.

Or he's already been offered and accepted the job, and the Colt's are just going thru the motions !!

ChoppedWood 01-12-2023 11:12 AM

There was also a point made that in this same conversation, that I think was with Holder, and his perception is Irsay is only keeping Ballard because he is NOT willing to pay 4 dudes to do the same jobs. Which if the case, then MAYBE Harbaugh would come here as the default GM knowing Ballard is neutered (even more time at the gym hooray) and he is really calling the shots.

The view is there WILL be a Harbaugh interview but it will NOT be until the very end of all of this.

Dewey 5 01-12-2023 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 257703)
Where are you reading that? Looking at Fowler's Twitter, I only see Harbaugh mentioned for the DEN job.

It’s here but I wouldn’t get your hopes up

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_f...13132_38341552

ChaosTheory 01-12-2023 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 257745)
It’s here but I wouldn’t get your hopes up

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_f...13132_38341552

I'm not getting hopes up for any coach. I think it was a mistake to fire Reich and until a worth a shit coach signs up for the job, I'll continue to think that Jim Irsay's interference will be a huge red flag keeping guys away.

CletusPyle 01-12-2023 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 257739)
There was also a point made that in this same conversation, that I think was with Holder, and his perception is Irsay is only keeping Ballard because he is NOT willing to pay 4 dudes to do the same jobs. Which if the case, then MAYBE Harbaugh would come here as the default GM knowing Ballard is neutered (even more time at the gym hooray) and he is really calling the shots.

The view is there WILL be a Harbaugh interview but it will NOT be until the very end of all of this.

If Harbaugh really wants the Colts job and Irsay doesn't get it done, I will never forgive him! Harbaugh is exactly the guy we need to change the culture here in Indy...this team needs toughened up!

ChoppedWood 01-12-2023 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 257761)
If Harbaugh really wants the Colts job and Irsay doesn't get it done, I will never forgive him! Harbaugh is exactly the guy we need to change the culture here in Indy...this team needs toughened up!

Agree. Whoever it was that was being interviewed, again I think it was Holder, said they believe Harbaugh will be the final interview and that he has indicated he wants to make sure Saturday has been given full interview and consideration before talking to Jim out of respect for Jeff- which if so, that's cool and if all this is happening behind the scenes, great.

We need him here so bad. He isn't going to take any bullshit interference from Irsay and I do believe he would ultimately trump Ballard even if he remains (if he does, just proves to me he is a dude that is not really about anything other than getting a nice check and having this title that allows him to rub elbows with the league's elite- as EVERYONE would understand he is a GM in name only).


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