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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-01-2022 10:38 AM

Colts fire OC Marcus Brady
 
Per Colts.com

https://www.colts.com/news/marcus-br...eich-statement

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The Colts on Tuesday announced they've relieved Marcus Brady of his duties as offensive coordinator.

"This was an incredibly hard decision, but one I felt needed to be made in the best interest of the team," head coach Frank Reich said in a statement. "I appreciate Marcus's commitment to the organization, and he made a significant contribution to our offensive success over the last five seasons. I wish him the best moving forward."

Brady joined the Colts coaching staff in 2018 as assistant quarterbacks coach, and also served as quarterbacks coach from 2019-2020 before taking over as offensive coordinator in 2021.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2022 10:50 AM

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Well, there isn't a hell of a lot that an offensive coordinator can do if the offensive line has decided to play like it's the Pro Bowl exhibition game.

Designating the entire starting offensive line to the 2nd-string might be a more effective strategy than firing the offensive coordinator.

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BCN#1 11-01-2022 10:53 AM

Had to admit this was not not a major surprise to me and O line coach should have lead the way out the door not letting it hit his arse on the way out.

Frank sez no white flag but it sure as hell starting to look like it for me.

rcubed 11-01-2022 10:57 AM

so it's brady's fault?

njcoltfan 11-01-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bcn#1 (Post 247388)
had to admit this was not not a major surprise to me and o line coach should have lead the way out the door not lettingit himt his arse on the way out.

Frank sez no white flag but it sure as hell starting to look like it for me.

scapegoat !!!! Fire the guy that keeps running hines up the middle !!! Fire the fucking playcaller........fire yourself frank !!!!!

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2022 11:15 AM

Wait, I thought Reich did the game planning as well as the play calling? How the heck is this gonna help?

Also, how in the hell is Strausser not the first one fired?

This doesn’t make a lot of sense, unless Brady wasn’t on board with the quarterback change.

I’m guessing Brady will end up in Philly.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 247398)
Wait, I thought Reich did the game planning as well as the play calling? How the heck is this gonna help?

Also, how in the hell is Strausser not the first one fired?

This doesn’t make a lot of sense, unless Brady wasn’t on board with the quarterback change.

I’m guessing Brady will end up in Philly.

Yeah I agree Strausser should be the 1st to go, what the hell?
Brady wasn't even calling the plays anyways it's Frank. Typical Colt FO fire the wrong people for scapegoating.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 11:28 AM

Looking more like Frank maybe keeping his job and they are going to clean out the assistants. I'm all for a new coach I just think Frank and Ballard both need to be sent packing not just Frank.

There's no other coach going to come in and win with this BS crap Ballard as built. Going to be more scapegoating coming....

BCN#1 11-01-2022 11:30 AM

As I stated earlier, Strausser should have lead the way out the door but even if he stays, he should feel real shame cashing a paycheck when you look at his O line performance. I would be looking for a new job if I were him.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BCN#1 (Post 247402)
As I stated earlier, Strausser should have lead the way out the door but even if he stays, he should feel real shame cashing a paycheck when you look at his O line performance. I would be looking for a new job if I were him.

Hope his new job isn't with another NFL team they going to SUCK!

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 12:00 PM

This is the easiest scapegoat for the Colts. Now they will just say Frank will take over Play calling the rest of season.. UH DUH! What has changed??

Chromeburn 11-01-2022 12:10 PM

I’m meh on this. I don’t think it’s his fault, but I didn’t think he was that great either.

rcubed 11-01-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtBlue (Post 247410)
This is the easiest scapegoat for the Colts. Now they will just say Frank will take over Play calling the rest of season.. UH DUH! What has changed??

frank has always called the plays.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 247413)
frank has always called the plays.

Agree, that's why I said what has changed?

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtBlue (Post 247410)
This is the easiest scapegoat for the Colts. Now they will just say Frank will take over Play calling the rest of season.. UH DUH! What has changed??

In bold is what the Colts media will be saying.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-01-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtBlue (Post 247410)
Now they will just say Frank will take over Play calling the rest of season..

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 247413)
frank has always called the plays.


Keefer has indicated that Reich will take over the OC job duties for the rest of this season.

I am guessing this means that Reich will have a little more face time with the players on offense now.

And not ideal that there isn't another coach here because Reich used the OC as a sounding board when developing the game plan. So I guess Reich will be talking with himself now.

But yes, Frank has almost always called the plays on offense on game day so no change for that task.

Oldcolt 11-01-2022 12:31 PM

It’s the fact that this line has become shit overnight. Who here thought Nelson/Smith/Kelly would be this bad? Who thought we couldn’t find a r guard who was adequate? Fischer over Leno is enough to get Ballard fired. I cannot think of offensive linemen who has regressed this much in so quick a time. Coaching may not be up to par but this is on Ballard almost totally. He kept bragging about knowing how to bring in the ‘right’ kind of players, self-motivators that he and his staff could pick out. It seemed like a difficult thing to do, get inside someone’s head like that, and obviously he didn’t. He instead gave huge money to guys who obviously only care about making money-they got their contracts and don’t give a shit. Oh they will talk a good game but what they put out on the field says everything to me. I can’t stand this commitment to mediocrity this team has.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 247418)
It’s the fact that this line has become shit overnight. Who here thought Nelson/Smith/Kelly would be this bad? Who thought we couldn’t find a r guard who was adequate? Fischer over Leno is enough to get Ballard fired. I cannot think of offensive linemen who has regressed this much in so quick a time. Coaching may not be up to par but this is on Ballard almost totally. He kept bragging about knowing how to bring in the ‘right’ kind of players, self-motivators that he and his staff could pick out. It seemed like a difficult thing to do, get inside someone’s head like that, and obviously he didn’t. He instead gave huge money to guys who obviously only care about making money-they got their contracts and don’t give a shit. Oh they will talk a good game but what they put out on the field says everything to me. I can’t stand this commitment to mediocrity this team has.

After reading this it brings back a memory of Ballard comments. I believe it was 2018 Colts training camp. Not sure what year it was. But his words were.

Ballard: I screwed it up last year, I should’ve addressed it last year. I didn’t address the depth. It taught me a great lesson that we’re gonna fix it.


So here the Colts are again OL terrible..

rcubed 11-01-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtBlue (Post 247416)
In bold is what the Colts media will be saying.

why would they say that since everyone knows that frank as always handled play calling. you are confusing.

ColtBlue 11-01-2022 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 247423)
why would they say that since everyone knows that frank as always handled play calling. you are confusing.

Sorry for the confusion. It was sarcasm towards the Colts.

CletusPyle 11-01-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 247398)
Wait, I thought Reich did the game planning as well as the play calling? How the heck is this gonna help?

Also, how in the hell is Strausser not the first one fired?

This doesn’t make a lot of sense, unless Brady wasn’t on board with the quarterback change.

I’m guessing Brady will end up in Philly.

Maybe they will bring in an OC that actually will call the plays....,doubtful, but we can hope!

ChaosTheory 11-01-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 247418)
It’s the fact that this line has become shit overnight. Who here thought Nelson/Smith/Kelly would be this bad? Who thought we couldn’t find a r guard who was adequate? Fischer over Leno is enough to get Ballard fired. I cannot think of offensive linemen who has regressed this much in so quick a time. Coaching may not be up to par but this is on Ballard almost totally. He kept bragging about knowing how to bring in the ‘right’ kind of players, self-motivators that he and his staff could pick out. It seemed like a difficult thing to do, get inside someone’s head like that, and obviously he didn’t. He instead gave huge money to guys who obviously only care about making money-they got their contracts and don’t give a shit. Oh they will talk a good game but what they put out on the field says everything to me. I can’t stand this commitment to mediocrity this team has.

This doesn't compute. Your question essentially points out how unexpected and baffling that our O-line, particularly our three stalwarts, have played so poorly this year after having been arguably our biggest team strength since 2018. How do we then turn around and shit on him for paying those three guys when the time came?

He should've known better? That's the real mind-reading shit.

That's like saying the Browns' GM should go ahead and replace Bitonio, Teller, and Conklin this off-season because they're going to suck next year. Yeah, they've been great the past few years, but whatever.

By the way, once again regarding Ballard criticism, crickets when it comes to the defense or how he may have been right about our WR's.

JAFF 11-01-2022 01:51 PM

Doyel: Colts fire offensive coordinator Marcus Brady? They got wrong man
 
https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...y/69610292007/


Doyel: Colts fire offensive coordinator Marcus Brady? They got wrong man

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INDIANAPOLIS – The Indianapolis Colts fired offensive coordinator Marcus Brady on Tuesday. Apparently he oversaw the offensive line, the highest-paid group in the NFL and the torpedo to the Colts' season.

Marcus Brady apparently oversaw the quarterback room, too. Matt Ryan arrived this offseason with a proven track record, 14 years at a near-Hall of Fame level in Atlanta, and fell off a damn cliff here.

Marcus Brady apparently called the plays, too. The Colts offense hasn’t gotten into a rhythm all season, other than late-game situations when the defense is tired and playing soft coverage and Ryan was showing the one skill that carried over from Atlanta to Indianapolis, the ability to perform in crunch time. Otherwise, the Colts are near the bottom of the league in points, turnovers, rushing yards, you name it.


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Does Marcus Brady also pick the players, going skimpy at receiver and left tackle and right guard, oversights that gutted the offense? Does he dabble in defense, too? While it has been mostly stout this season, the Colts are in the bottom half of the league in sacks and turnovers.

I mean, seriously. How many areas of one team can Marcus Brady screw up?

Here’s your answer:

None.

The Colts just undercut Marcus Brady because someone had to go down.

And it wasn’t going to be anyone who is actually to blame.

Then Indianapolis Colts assistant quarterbacks coach Marcus Brady works with his players at the Colts training camp at Grand Park in Westfield on Tuesday Aug 21
Chris Strausser still has job? Scott Milanovich? Frank Reich, Chris Ballard?

Turns out, Chris Strausser coaches the Colts offensive line, and Kevin Mawae is his assistant. The Colts’ offensive line, with its combination of sacks allowed (26th worst in the NFL) and rushing yards per carry (29th), is statistically the worst in the league. Strausser and Mawae have their jobs today.


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Turns out, Scott Milanovich coaches the Colts’ quarterbacks, and Parks Frazier is his assistant. Before being benched, Matt Ryan was leading the league in turnovers, interceptions and fumbles, a clean sweep, while ranking 28th in the league in passer rating among quarterbacks with at least 400 yards passing. You could argue that Ryan, too, has been the worst quarterback in the NFL. Milanovich and Frazier have their jobs today.


Turns out, coach Frank Reich calls the offensive plays. The Colts are 30th in the league in points scored, making it one of the three worst offenses in the NFL. Reich has his job today.

General Manager Chris Ballard put together a roster that has already had multiple massive changes at offensive line because the plan at two spots, left tackle and right guard, failed. The Colts have no depth at receiver, and little perimeter pass rush. Coordinator Gus Bradley oversees a defense that does a poor job of affecting the quarterback and taking the ball away.

ChoppedWood 11-01-2022 02:01 PM

For Fuck's sake, what in the fuck is going on on 56th Street?

What in the fuck of fucks is Jim Irsay doing? Frank Reich is pushing up on Gotti for the greatest teflon barrier of all time- even Gotti got hit at some point, shit!

Been a fan of this team since the early 70's, seen a lot of dysfunction over the years but would much rather have stumbling and bumbling blitzed out of his mind Bob out there firing the real culprit than letting the culprit be allowed to blame everyone else for his failures while he continues to royally fuck the organization.

Frank Reich is not just a trash coach, dude is proving his "good guy" persona is bullshit too, dude is straight up trash!

STEP DOWN NOW FRANK!!!!

Oldcolt 11-01-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 247432)
This doesn't compute. Your question essentially points out how unexpected and baffling that our O-line, particularly our three stalwarts, have played so poorly this year after having been arguably our biggest team strength since 2018. How do we then turn around and shit on him for paying those three guys when the time came?

He should've known better? That's the real mind-reading shit.

That's like saying the Browns' GM should go ahead and replace Bitonio, Teller, and Conklin this off-season because they're going to suck next year. Yeah, they've been great the past few years, but whatever.

By the way, once again regarding Ballard criticism, crickets when it comes to the defense or how he may have been right about our WR's.

You don’t get my point at all. When someone talks about how he is great at something-finding players with the right mindset-and seems to be saying we didn’t do that in building the roster previously and then brings in guys who only care about the money, to me its on him. He is the one who said he could do it, not me. So yes I am shocked at this regression, a regression Ballard seemed to say would not happen when he was in charge. I’ve been on Ballards side, haven’t criticized him until now. Ballard bragged about his great acumen in choosing players who are self motivated over and over when he took over. Couldn’t even sign a free agent because he had to get ‘his’ locker room first. It’s five years and I’m still waiting for this great locker room to show up. This is not my idea, that you can read mind shit and incorporate it into who you put on this team. It was Ballard alone who said he would do that. Why shouldn’t I hold him responsible for not being able to do what he said he would do? As far as the WR room, it is still below average, they have ability and hopefully will continue to improve-unlike the offensive line. You may be impressed with this defense but I believe you need to be able to get to the QB to be elite in the NFL. We can’t, just look at how much time Washington had on the last play.

nate505 11-01-2022 02:49 PM

So he gets fired but the offensive line coach stays? Makes total sense.

Spike 11-01-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 247444)
So he gets fired but the offensive line coach stays? Makes total sense.

It's become a cluster fuck organization. Let's find a guy we can blame it on who we don't really like and fire his ass. Sick of Reich and Ballard.

CletusPyle 11-01-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by choppedwood (Post 247438)

what in the fuck of fucks is jim irsay doing? Frank reich is pushing up on gotti for the greatest teflon barrier of all time- even gotti got hit at some point, shit!



:D

Oldcolt 11-01-2022 05:04 PM

This firing makes me wonder how good of people Ballard and Reich really are. I hate it when you talk being a man and taking responsibility and it is only talk-in reality you actually make others take the blame by getting them fired. These good men don’t seem so good to me today. But then I tend to believe what you do rather than what you blab.

ChaosTheory 11-01-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 247442)
You don’t get my point at all. When someone talks about how he is great at something-finding players with the right mindset-and seems to be saying we didn’t do that in building the roster previously and then brings in guys who only care about the money, to me its on him. He is the one who said he could do it, not me.

No, I actually think I followed it. Ultimately you're saying Ballard should have known that our players (Kelly, Smith, and Nelson) are motivated solely by money. Which is why we all had the rug pulled out from under us nobody saw this poor performance coming. But Ballard, claiming he drafts players with character, should've seen through the facade. Essentially he let our vet OL trick him into second contracts.

Well, claiming that Kelly, Smith, and Nelson are solely motivated by money unfounded at best (mind-reading). Something is wrong with a unit that has been our team's strength the past several years and it's thrown us all for a loop. But you're saying that the answer is simply that they're greedy and don't care about winning. That ascribes motive to guys who have never been close to giving off that impression since 2018.

Your characterization of Ballard is that he "kept bragging" about his "great acumen." That is to say that he presents himself in an outwardly arrogant and boastful manner and that it's led to him actually drafting very low-character guys. I've never gotten that impression and it strikes me as no different than Chopped constantly telling us that Frank Reich is "arrogant", "thinks he's so smart", "has to be the smartest guy in the room", etc.

ChoppedWood 11-01-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 247476)
This firing makes me wonder how good of people Ballard and Reich really are. I hate it when you talk being a man and taking responsibility and it is only talk-in reality you actually make others take the blame by getting them fired. These good men don’t seem so good to me today. But then I tend to believe what you do rather than what you blab.

Frank Reich is proving to us over and over and over and over, Frank Reich's loyalty is to Frank the genius Reich and to NO ONE else!

Dewey 5 11-01-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 247495)
Frank Reich is proving to us over and over and over and over, Frank Reich's loyalty is to Frank the genius Reich and to NO ONE else!

The grossly overrated Ballard is no better

YDFL Commish 11-01-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 247496)
The grossly overrated Ballard is no better

Other than LT and RG this team has talent oozing from every position. If this were a PM led team running a PM offense, this team would be 7-1 right now.

Yeah, Ballard seems to blunder 1 or 2 things every off season, but so did Polian.

Some of Polian's blunders were drafting Rob Morris, Tony Ugoh. Letting go Jake Scott, Ryan Lilja, David Thornton. Complete inability to draft competent DT's. It goes on and on.

You put the right QB in place and it will mask many warts, just ask Pagano.

HoosierinFL 11-01-2022 06:35 PM

I don’t buy the idea that this oline sucks because they got paid, and that Ballard was wrong about them.

It’s coaching 100%, their technique and their toughness has regressed and it’s because the coaches are not holding anyone accountable or working them hard enough.

Chaka 11-01-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 247432)
This doesn't compute. Your question essentially points out how unexpected and baffling that our O-line, particularly our three stalwarts, have played so poorly this year after having been arguably our biggest team strength since 2018. How do we then turn around and shit on him for paying those three guys when the time came?

I have to agree here. Kelly got his money in 2020, and Smith got his in 2021. If greed was the explanation, then it stands to reason that this would have happened earlier. Further, it looks like most of Kelly's guaranteed money comes off the books after this year, so if greed was the motivating factor then you'd think he'd be pulling out the stops this year so he doesn't lose out on the nonguaranteed parts of his contract starting next year. Smith's guaranteed money mostly runs out after next season, so he'd have the same concern perhaps but to a lesser degree.

These guys are all young, and there are no injuries to speak of, so its perplexing.

IndyNorm 11-01-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 247477)
No, I actually think I followed it. Ultimately you're saying Ballard should have known that our players (Kelly, Smith, and Nelson) are motivated solely by money. Which is why we all had the rug pulled out from under us nobody saw this poor performance coming. But Ballard, claiming he drafts players with character, should've seen through the facade. Essentially he let our vet OL trick him into second contracts.

Well, claiming that Kelly, Smith, and Nelson are solely motivated by money unfounded at best (mind-reading). Something is wrong with a unit that has been our team's strength the past several years and it's thrown us all for a loop. But you're saying that the answer is simply that they're greedy and don't care about winning. That ascribes motive to guys who have never been close to giving off that impression since 2018.

Your characterization of Ballard is that he "kept bragging" about his "great acumen." That is to say that he presents himself in an outwardly arrogant and boastful manner and that it's led to him actually drafting very low-character guys. I've never gotten that impression and it strikes me as no different than Chopped constantly telling us that Frank Reich is "arrogant", "thinks he's so smart", "has to be the smartest guy in the room", etc.

I won't go as far as Oldcolt and say that Ballard should have known these guys would turn into turds as soon as they were paid (to be fair Kelly played well for 2 seasons after being paid, so I think his problem(s) is elsewhere), but I think we can all agree in hindsight that Ballard has sunk a shit ton of money into guys he shouldn't have. So much so that it's actually set the franchise back several years.

He also completely destabilized the OL by handing the starting LT job over to Pryor and letting Glow walk for Pinter.

And then there's the fact that it took him 3 off seasons to draft a replacement for AC. Of course we have no idea if Raimann is any good since he doesn't play b/c the coaches/FO have such a hard on for Pryor, but I guess that's another story.

I do agree with Oldcolt that on our WRs and D. WRs have talent but are currently around league average. And our D isn't as good a lot of people on here think it is. They're better than last year and mostly keep us in the game. But they always start slow and haven't been able to make a stop with the game on the line. Even against bad offenses like Wash.

IndyNorm 11-01-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 247511)
I have to agree here. Kelly got his money in 2020, and Smith got his in 2021. If greed was the explanation, then it stands to reason that this would have happened earlier. Further, it looks like most of Kelly's guaranteed money comes off the books after this year, so if greed was the motivating factor then you'd think he'd be pulling out the stops this year so he doesn't lose out on the nonguaranteed parts of his contract starting next year. Smith's guaranteed money mostly runs out after next season, so he'd have the same concern perhaps but to a lesser degree.

These guys are all young, and there are no injuries to speak of, so its perplexing.

Agree on Kelly. Smith's play declined right out of the gate last year. He did right somewhat the ship after he came back, but he still wasn't as good as he had been in '18-'20. And he absolutely sucks this year.

IndyNorm 11-01-2022 07:21 PM

Also, I should add that Brady being the scapegoat and Strausser somehow still having a job is absolutely fucking mind boggling.

rm1369 11-01-2022 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 247509)
I don’t buy the idea that this oline sucks because they got paid, and that Ballard was wrong about them.

It’s coaching 100%, their technique and their toughness has regressed and it’s because the coaches are not holding anyone accountable or working them hard enough.

But the same coaches did it last year? Somehow Reich was a good enough to coach Nelson to multiple Pro Bowls? Not buying it

Chaka 11-01-2022 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 247512)
I won't go as far as Oldcolt and say that Ballard should have known these guys would turn into turds as soon as they were paid (to be fair Kelly played well for 2 seasons after being paid, so I think his problem(s) is elsewhere), but I think we can all agree in hindsight that Ballard has sunk a shit ton of money into guys he shouldn't have. So much so that it's actually set the franchise back several years.

I'm really not trying to be a Ballard apologist here, but I need to disagree. The Colts continue to have financial flexibility despite these deals. They have not engaged in type of financial engineering which other teams have, which ends up painting those teams into a corner and setting them back for years. Even where Colts pay these guys tons of money, they usually have an out after a couple years in the event things don't work out.

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 247512)
He also completely destabilized the OL by handing the starting LT job over to Pryor and letting Glow walk for Pinter.

Certainly there's room for criticism here, though both Pryor and Pinter played much better last year. Teams have to make tough decisions all the time and can't pay everyone, so they took a calculated gamble with Pryor and Pinter which hasn't worked out so far. But this is on Ballard to a large degree, no doubt.

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 247512)
And then there's the fact that it took him 3 off seasons to draft a replacement for AC. Of course we have no idea if Raimann is any good since he doesn't play b/c the coaches/FO have such a hard on for Pryor, but I guess that's another story.

AC retired 1.5 years ago (the 2021 offseason), with a year remaining on his contract. The Colts brought in a 30-year old former Pro Bowl LT (Eric Fisher) coming off an injury to replace him, and drafted Paye in the 1st round to address a different area of weakness. Fisher didn't work out as well as hoped. Ballard drafted Raimann this off season. He could have done more I suppose, but its not as though he ignored the issue and didn't devote significant resources to it.


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