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YDFL Commish 10-24-2022 05:11 AM

Reich, Ryan, Brady
 
Which of these dudes need to be replaced? I'm not sure of the answer here, but I do have an observation.

Since Sirani left and Brady took over the offense, other than JT and the running game, this offense has been putrid, while Siriani has the eagles flying high at 6-0.

Maybe replace them all?

Racehorse 10-24-2022 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246030)
Which of these dudes need to be replaced? I'm not sure of the answer here, but I do have an observation.

Since Sirani left and Brady took over the offense, other than JT and the running game, this offense has been putrid, while Siriani has the eagles flying high at 6-0.

Maybe replace them all?

Probably should have fired Frank after the collapse to end the season and promoted Sirianni.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-24-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 246033)
Probably should have fired Frank after the collapse to end the season and promoted Sirianni.


Sirianni was already the Head Coach of the Eagles at that point - this is his second year in Philly.

YDFL Commish 10-24-2022 10:49 AM

Who the fuck is running this offense anyway? Back in the PM years, we knew it was PM.

Now, I don't fuk'n know. I doubt that it's Matt Ryan. Some of the most basic concepts in the NFL we struggle at or ignore.

Running Hynes up the middle is jus plain stupid. He get's tackled by a finger nail.

I hate to say this but Hynes would thrive in a BB offense. Draws and screens all day baby.

BTW...JT has sucked in pass protection all year. Makes me so much miss Edge...or even Addai.

Colts And Orioles 10-24-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246067)



Who the fuck is running this offense, anyway ??? Back in the Peyton Manning years, we knew that it was Peyton Manning.

Now, I don't fuk'n know ...... I doubt that it's Matt Ryan. Some of the most basic concepts in the NFL we struggle at or ignore.

Running Hynes up the middle is just plain stupid ...... he gets tackled by a finger nail.

I hate to say this, but Hynes would thrive in a Bill Belichick offense ...... he draws and screens all day, baby.

BTW ...... Jonathan Taylor has sucked in pass protection all year. He makes me so much miss Edgerrin James ...... or even Joseph Addai.




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I would presume that it's either the offensive coordinator, or the head coach.

And if it is the offensive coordinator calling the plays, shouldn't he be the one that gets criticized in the game threads, as opposed to Reich ???

I'm sure that Reich makes all of the decisions as to whether or not to go for it on 4th down, but I was under the impression that if a quarterback does not call his own plays, the offensive coordinator does.

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Brylok 10-24-2022 11:38 AM

I miss Siriani. Been saying it since he left.

1965southpaw 10-24-2022 12:51 PM

HC Frank Reich: “Matt (Ryan)’s our quarterback. He had the two interceptions. The first one, the pick six right there, I didn’t help him out. I didn’t help him out. It was a second-and-long call the play before, I was arguing with the official over a facemask. Got the call in a little bit late. Normally I get the call in really fast. Got the call in a little bit later than I normally do and that came up in a pressure look. He wanted to check out of it because he knew the blitz was coming and we didn’t have time to check out of it. That was a tough situation to be in. Then the other one, I have to look at the tape on the other one. It’s like you said, it’s always a collective thing. We’ll look at the tape closely. I think Matt (Ryan)’s been making good decisions. I thought the O-line, I thought the pocket today was pretty good. I mean, we had a few sacks, but I thought all in all, the pocket was pretty good. And I thought in the run game, I thought we showed some positive signs.”

I guess we don’t trust a 15 year vet to check down out of a bad play…..inexcusable.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-24-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 246086)
I guess we don’t trust a 15 year vet to check down out of a bad play…..inexcusable.


You need to re-read the quote - that isn't what Reich said.

Reich said that he didn't give Ryan enough time on the play clock to audible to a different play on that particular snap.

Instead Ryan snapped the ball with 4 seconds left (according to the TV play clock) and went with the hot read - Campbell - on the original play that had been called.

Of course, Ryan could have called a timeout or just thrown the ball out of bounds as well.

ChaosTheory 10-24-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 246095)
You need to re-read the quote - that isn't what Reich said.

Reich said that he didn't give Ryan enough time on the play clock to audible to a different play on that particular snap.

Instead Ryan snapped the ball with 4 seconds left (according to the TV play clock) and went with the hot read - Campbell - on the original play that had been called.

Of course, Ryan could have called a timeout or just thrown the ball out of bounds as well.

Reich should've called the play sooner even though his arguing was understandable after Hines almost had his head unscrewed.

Ryan on the other hand is careless with the ball to a degree I did not expect. You don't have time to change the play... then call timeout, eat the grass, throw it to the 5th row... don't close your eyes and pray.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-24-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246030)
Which of these dudes need to be replaced? I'm not sure of the answer here, but I do have an observation.

Since Sirani left and Brady took over the offense, other than JT and the running game, this offense has been putrid, while Siriani has the eagles flying high at 6-0.

Maybe replace them all?


I will have to go back and look but I don't think the Colts have discussed the coaching staff's roles and responsibilities at length since Sirianni + others left. While Sirianni was here, the Colts had detailed what each individual's roles were. But since people have different strengths and weaknesses, the roles might have morphed a little bit over time with different coaches / coordinators now in the various jobs.


One observation that I have is that even when the Colts had been rotating through with a new QB every year, the offense usually started games off in sync as they were running through the first dozen or so scripted plays. They may not have always scored on the first + second drives but they generally appeared to be on the same page and could drive the ball with relative ease (although sometimes it took a few games at the start of the season to reach that point). This topic came up multiple times on this forum over the last several years - why did the offense start out clicking at the beginning of the game and then go downhill from there.

It seemed to be the case with Luck, Brissett, Rivers and Wentz. Until this year with Matt Ryan. So I think Ryan is / (or now) was part of the issue. There was a comment made in consecutive weeks by two different broadcasting crews (one was CBS, the other was FOX) that hinted at one potential issue that Ryan was working through - an issue that should have improved over the course of the season as Ryan had more playing time. Someone on the Colts (either a player, coach or both - it could have even been Matt Ryan himself) had to have made that remark to those broadcasting crews in the off camera pre-game interviews.

YDFL Commish 10-24-2022 09:02 PM

Reich has become Pagano.

After the Denver win (which almost felt like a loss)

"Isn't it great to win a game like that."

Fuck no, it's not great to win a game like that, where your offense can't get out of it's own way and your O-Line is dominated like they just got off the high school bus.

After every loss. "I got out coached." "I've gotta do a better job."

Same old bullshit every game.

Now, instead him falling on the sword, which he rightfully should, it's the lowest man on the totem pole Matt Ryan who is the scapegoat.

What's next, Reich quoting his favorite lame movie (wonder what that would be?) and proclaiming his love of liver and onions for his thanksgiving meal.

My guess is the Brady/Reich game plans will make Elhinger look like trash too. Remember they don't game plan in the pre-season, when Ehlinger looked his best.

ChoppedWood 10-24-2022 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246184)
Reich has become Pagano.

After the Denver win (which almost felt like a loss)

"Isn't it great to win a game like that."

Fuck no, it's not great to win a game like that, where your offense can't get out of it's own way and your O-Line is dominated like they just got off the high school bus.

After every loss. "I got out coached." "I've gotta do a better job."

Same old bullshit every game.

Now, instead him falling on the sword, which he rightfully should, it's the lowest man on the totem pole Matt Ryan who is the scapegoat.

What's next, Reich quoting his favorite lame movie (wonder what that would be?) and proclaiming his love of liver and onions for his thanksgiving meal.

My guess is the Brady/Reich game plans will make Elhinger look like trash too. Remember they don't game plan in the pre-season, when Ehlinger looked his best.

Man I am right there with you, this dude will drive that bus clean over everyone's ass and smile while doing it. He is so trash.

DragonTails 10-24-2022 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 246086)
HC Frank Reich: “...I was arguing with the official over a facemask. ”

Frank, you don't argue shit.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-24-2022 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246184)
Now, instead him falling on the sword, which he rightfully should, it's the lowest man on the totem pole Matt Ryan who is the scapegoat.

Well, Reich also made this comment in his press conference:

"Another point that needs to be made crystal clear, and I told this to Matt: We did not hold up to our end of the bargain. You came here and we promised you a top run game and great protection and we haven’t delivered. And that really starts with me."

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 246184)
My guess is the Brady/Reich game plans will make Elhinger look like trash too. Remember they don't game plan in the pre-season, when Ehlinger looked his best.

Ehlinger looked his best during the pre-season not because of no game plan but because he was playing against the opponent's third string defense in most situations. So not the starters, not the regular back-ups, but the third team.

However, I will say his pre-season performance was remarkable based on a couple of the beat writers' comments:

1) They stated that Ryan and Foles took nearly every 11 vs 11 snap in training camp (at least what the media witnessed) and that Ehlinger and Coan got most of their work through individual workouts and throwing / receiving drills with the WR's and TE's.

2) Ehlinger is in the middle of completely re-working his throwing mechanics / motion with the QB guru Tom House. It was supposed to be a two year process of changing his mechanics.

CletusPyle 10-25-2022 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 246209)
Well, Reich also made this comment in his press conference:

"Another point that needs to be made crystal clear, and I told this to Matt: We did not hold up to our end of the bargain. You came here and we promised you a top run game and great protection and we haven’t delivered. And that really starts with me."



Ehlinger looked his best during the pre-season not because of no game plan but because he was playing against the opponent's third string defense in most situations. So not the starters, not the regular back-ups, but the third team.

However, I will say his pre-season performance was remarkable based on a couple of the beat writers' comments:

1) They stated that Ryan and Foles took nearly every 11 vs 11 snap in training camp (at least what the media witnessed) and that Ehlinger and Coan got most of their work through individual workouts and throwing / receiving drills with the WR's and TE's.

2) Ehlinger is in the middle of completely re-working his throwing mechanics / motion with the QB guru Tom House. It was supposed to be a two year process of changing his mechanics.

If Ryan is really hurt, why make that comment? That comment pretty much says, "sorry, we have to break up, but it's not you it's me!" As far a Sam goes, the Colts need to see if they have a diamond in the rough, and you can't determine that in a couple of games. Matt Ryan is a good guy, he's had a great career, and I'm sure he felt like this was a legitimate chance for him to make one last run at a Super Bowl...extremely disappointing for everyone!


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