If the Colts Sign Baker
 

I will give up and the site goes to Smitty.

If you love me. Don't root for Baker here Although you may love Smitty more anyway. LOL

I will be done

FUCK BAKER MAYFIELD

I wont go that far but god please no baker.

And yes, we all like smitty better than you

For fucks sake just run elhinger out there and get young or stroud next year

Or get minshew and trade up next year.

What would make matters worse is that Baker's not a FA, so we'd have to trade for him.

HAHA I'm serious It will be grilling and swimming in the fall and rooting for Ballard to be fired when the weather turns.

Love his commercials. hate him as a QB

Sounds like Baker thinks he's on the move somewhere, at least:

https://twitter.com/bakermayfield/st...14793228402689

Be right there with ya !!! :cool:

I got a bad feeling about this.

Oh Fuck Omaha is next up? Oh FUCK

Our own Lawrence Owen is reporting that Baker Mayfield will be the next Indy QB:

https://twitter.com/Colts_Law/status...42901230878721

He does commercials! We'll have a commercial doing QB again!

Ugh. Welp Smitty Its yours to give to whoever. LOL

I'll go against the grain a bit in that I don't hate the idea of Baker.

I sorta don't like the guy in general, and I really hate the idea of giving up significant assets for him though.

In his message to 'Cleveland', he invoked God and dropped in his middle name...Reagan. It sounds like he's going to Indiana to me. Ohhhh man.

Omaha Omaha hut

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I like the guy in general. Great commercials. He's just not a good QB. and definitely no where near a #1 pick in the draft

I’d give him a shot with Frank coaching him. Would be interesting to se what Frank could get out of him.

Just please don’t give up a lot for him.

Of the options on the table, if you add his name he’s the best option

I’ll take a pissed off Baker

Like him or hate him, he's a gamer, the guy leaves everything on the field. the Colt's could do a lot worse !!

Can you see the Death Star on the horizon

I’m not terribly excited about Mayfield - he has plenty of concerns. But assuming Carr isn’t an option, he’s probably the best “win now” option available to the Colts. If they pull the trigger Ballard is going to have to open the purse strings and address the other major issues on the roster though, otherwise it makes no sense. You get one year to evaluate him. Don’t half ass it.

That's no moon!

I suppose one good thing about Baker coming here, it will mean that by probably mid November, a new coach and GM will be named in Indy which will make me happy. The team will be screwed for years and years of course and guys like Nelson and Leonard will be old and grey by the time we have any sort of rebound, Taylor and Pittman will very likely refuse a 2nd contracts with us, but at least we won't still have the cheapskate and reclamation man to have to overcome every single year.

Han Solo, is that you?

I'd still go with Jameis Winston who will cost nothing but money.

That is where I am. Baker may be a little better, but the costs would be much higher. Winston or another FA is my preference.

Coming off an ACL has never won anything and can I emphasize…..

Holds the ball waaayyyy to goddamit long

Of the shitty list of QB's I would take Baker over any of them, but that is a double edged sword, the rest suck. Until we get a left tackle, WR, a true pass rusher and a few other holes, along with some depth it doesn't matter who is slinging the ball around, we will be mediocre. If they bring Mayfield in and we don't win at least 12 games next year, fuck it, blow it up and start trading for draft picks and start this thing over. Every year we are middle of the road, the older our tradable guys get and value goes down.

I hate the thought of blowing it all up, but sometimes you have to go backwards in order to move forward. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

All the Colts need is a solid QB who can run the system, not make many mistakes and occasionally push the ball down the field to back the defenders off of JT.

Career Numbers:

62.0% Completion / 204-118 TD-INT / 5.9% sack rate / 237.5 YPG / 87.5 QBR / 35 years old / Dalton
59.4% Completion / 186-113 TD-INT / 6.8% sack rate / 223.5 YPG / 85.4 QBR / 33 years old / Newton
61.3% Completion / 121-088 TD-INT / 6.2% sack rate / 274.1 YPG / 86.9 QBR / 28 years old / Winston
62.9% Completion / 076-044 TD-INT / 8.1% sack rate / 209.6 YPG / 89.6 QBR / 29 years old / Mariota
61.6% Completion / 092-056 TD-INT / 6.5% sack rate / 235.4 YPG / 87.8 QBR / 27 years old / Mayfield

From the stats, Dalton and Winston are the best of the bunch. Baker delivers nothing over Winston (or even Mariota) except for being a couple of years younger.

Regardless, all of these guys are a 1, 2 or 3 year band aid for the Colts. None can carry a team by being even an "average" QB. Please don't trade away picks to get another Carson Wentz.

The problem when you get to this level of QB is that they are system dependent. They aren’t capable of overcoming adversity or carrying the team long term. I could go through season by season for each of these guys and “explain” away issues / bad seasons. Look at Ryan Tannehill as an example - two pretty damn good seasons sandwiched around a lot of mediocre ones. Support him enough and he appears to be a decent QB. Don’t and you are looking for an upgrade. With any of these guys that is the best you are going to get. But that doesn’t make them even or interchangeable. Since they are system dependent the key is how their individual strengths match the Colts. I won’t claim to have watched enough film on all these guys to have a really strong opinion. But what I do have a strong opinion on is that once Ballard decides, he is going to have to fill some other holes to help support them or it will be another waste. To me looking at their career stats is almost meaningless though.

yep

i do believe i would have to be next in line

giving away any draft capital, well significant anyway, is a terrible mistake for guy like mayfield or anyone like him.


we gambled and lost with wentz. just bring in the best guy you can without giving up much and carry on.

Trading away draft capital is especially detrimental for the Colts since Ballard refuses to fill needs outside of the draft, at least with anything more than 1 year band aids. Also, acquiring Mayfield would probably drive Ballard to hoard cap space even more this offseason (if that's possible) since he would have to hold back cap money to re-sign Mayfield if things work out.

I agree, none of these guys make me want to give up much beyond a 3rd-day pick if that.

Like what is the most the Colts could give up in draft capital that would make people here not wretch? I know for some it's anything. For me it's:

1st Round Pick: Throwing up all season. That would be infuriating.
2nd Round Pick: Would be pretty damn upset
3rd Round Pick: About the most I could tolerate
4th-7th Round Pick: I'm fine with that

Of course, would the Browns trade him for just a 3rd round pick or worse? I don't think so.

If the Colts don't see him as a long term replacement (unlike most of you I cannot for the life of me tell which of the bunch left is good or bad for this team) I don't want to give anything for Mayfield. If they think there is a possibility that he is our long term QB then a third or a fourth would be ok.

If true...does that mean McDumbass is going to trade Carr to the Browns, I know the Browns have been trying to get him!

The Browns are in the running for Watson. If they get him then Baker will eventually be released.

Getting him for free is the best option.

Its a spacestation!!!!!!!!