Colts moving on from Eric Fisher
 

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Pro-Bowl left tackle Eric Fisher is not expected to resign with the Colts despite the fact that the two sides have spent recent weeks trying to strike a new deal, per sources. Fisher now is poised to hit free agency next week.

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Armstead a target? :cool:

Who knows what they're doing? We should have just signed Leno from the Bears when he was available. The Colts seem to be in disarray these days, and I think the clock is ticking on Ballard and company.

Armstead may be a “target”, but it is doubtful the team signs him. Ballard looks primarily for low risk deals that he can win. Armstead will draw enough interest that he won’t be interested in a short term or bargain price deal.

Irsay says all chips in, bring in Armstead and either Amari Cooper or Christian Kirk, should Cooper become available.

Agree 100% on Leno :cool:

Fisher is going on the market, and will find out his value. He may be back. Not for nothing, the Colts still need to buy a Qb. Maybe thats first on their list

He says that, but until we have a solid QB it would be stupid.

To a certain point I agree. But how many years of DL, Q, Defo, KM, BS, RK, can you waste? We've got to keep trying to find the immediate future.

Makes me nervous that Ballard attempted to re-sign Fisher but was unable to and that he's going to go bargain shopping again at LT. Although it could be that Fisher is overestimating his value. Guess we'll find out.

The colts were interested, but there are options. I think Fisher + agent will be disappointed when they go shopping

Going all-in on other skills and having no QB is wasting them also.

My guess is that Fisher priced himself out of a contract.

For now. There is lots of time, and some competition. The Colts may get to the point where they move Smith or Nelson.

They should definitely move Nelson for draft picks before we overpay a guard.

No way is Nelson getting moved. Great players cost. We have what, 70 million in cap space and you think our issue is the extra 7 million (he already costs 13 million) that Nelson will get (I’m assuming he makes around 20 million a year)? I disagree I think it is crazy to trade away a guy who may turn out to be one of the greatest guards if not the greatest guard who ever played the game.

If you moved him to get a sure fire QB you might have an argument however. Don’t see that happening

He is probably going to get left Tacklish money and I worry he has back issue that is going to shorten his career, that money would be better spent regardless on a LT, skills or spread about keeping a strong line.

It is a risk, his back. The Colts will have to evaluate that with their medical team.

Is Big Q already in consideration for the Hall of Fame if his career was to end now? I am guessing not, as he just hasn't played for long enough, but i would suggest that the quality of his play would put him easily into the frame of contention.

Because getting rid of a future HOF for an unknown always works. Sarcasm intended

To Left Tackle?

Gotta disagree with you on this one JAFF. There is always someone out there willing to pay more than someone is worth. Do you remember that dumb-ass team that gave up too much draft capital to obtain that Wentz guy last year?

The Colts aren't going to give "a guard" left-tackle money. Nelson is arguably the best O-lineman in the league. They're going to give arguably the best O-lineman in the league left-tackle money. 3x First-Team All-Pro (would be 4x if he didn't miss four games).

I've always valued interior OL more than most probably do... but the McGlynn-Satele-Thornton years cemented that stance. Remember how bad people wanted Andrew Norwell?

Even if you don't believe in the merits... think pragmatically. Ballard picked the guy with the #6 overall. Of course he's going to pay him.

Ballard has already stated that Nelson's next contract will be in $17 to $20 million.

I agree, lol. Its right out of moneyball. Every team has the $ amount any player in the NFL is worth to THEIR team

Yes to Left tackle. Should have been clearer, my bad

They are going to pay him for being the best O lineman in the league. How do you replace that? They dont grow on trees.

Stop worrying about the money, it doesnt matter. Did the money keep the Colts from dumping Wentz and coming out ahead? Let Irsay worry about the money.

I'm not sure what you're saying. How do you replace what?

And what do you mean did the money keep them from dumping Wentz?

You dont let Nelson leave by FA. He’s a once in a generation talent. It tells your team you’re not willing to pay the best that’s the shit Jim Irsay dad pulled on the fans.

The money involved in salaries is all monopoly money. It didn’t prevent us from dumping Wentz to the Washington whatever you’re calling him this week. There’s always a way to maneuver money find money create some ridiculous exception to pay the people you wanna pay. That’s why I don’t worry about it. Also it’s not my money so I probably deep down inside I don’t freaking care

Thanks. I was afraid you meant moving them for picks.

Aahh no Scott
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You don’t let him leave by FA because you should have been planning to reset the OG market from the day you picked him at 6. Otherwise the pick was completely stupid. It’s pretty much the same with trading him primarily because you have to pay him. The only reason you can justify the pick is because he has been a HOF level player. You can trade him to help get a QB and you can trade him if there are major concerns about his back, but not because he’s exactly what you drafted him to be.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. I thought you were implying that we disagreed on Nelson.

As far as money... Yeah it's Monopoly money to an extent for a multi-billionaire like Irsay. But for Ballard and the team, it's the confines of the NFL. I don't pay attention to the cap because I have some principled position on what I think a player's worth is. And I'm also not concerned about being fair to the owner's wallet.

Hypothetically if a player like Nelson were a free agent right now, teams like the Colts could go after him. Teams like the Saints can't. It may be Monopoly money... but they don't have any of it.