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Puck 01-27-2022 12:22 PM

Eberflus is the new Bears HC
 
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...987133963?s=20

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Former Colts’ defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus is being hired as the head coach of the Chicago Bears, per sources.
10:51 AM · Jan 27, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Brylok 01-27-2022 12:29 PM

I hope that wasn't a mistake. Should we hire Flores now? Fangio has already been here before, so I seriously doubt that happens.

Puck 01-27-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 222353)
I hope that wasn't a mistake. Should we hire Flores now? Fangio has already been here before, so I seriously doubt that happens.

Lots of candidates out there. Well a few anyway

Flores
Wink
Schwartz
Zimmer

All possibilities. But could be a promotion from the staff too.

Lov2fish 01-27-2022 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222354)
Lots of candidates out there. Well a few anyway

Flores
Wink
Schwartz
Zimmer

All possibilities. But could be a promotion from the staff too.

Flores and Zimmer would be good grabs. Not sure either one of them want a coordinators job after being head coaches. Flores got shafted in Miami with a bunch of internal bs and and an absentee owner.

Lawrence Owen 01-27-2022 01:24 PM

Lot's of up's and downs with this news.

D'Qwell Jackson & I are going live at 3pm to discuss it.

Feel free to pop in and let us know what you think!

https://youtu.be/pksacuooH44

Colts And Orioles 01-27-2022 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 222353)



I hope that that wasn't a mistake. Should we hire Flores now ??? Fangio has already been here before, so I seriously doubt that happens.




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https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r...9cd/flores.jpg

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DragonTails 01-27-2022 03:22 PM

Is it too much to ask to get someone smart enough to know the QB and the situation and not play 12 yards off Jax receivers?

Did any coach watch any film on them their last 8 games? WTF.

Discflinger 01-27-2022 03:31 PM

Be interesting to see who he takes with him. I hope our cupboards aren’t left bare.

ChoppedWood 01-27-2022 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 222371)
Be interesting to see who he takes with him. I hope our cupboards aren’t left bare.

I kinda hope they are! Take Frank and Chris with you as well Matt!

Kray007 01-27-2022 05:01 PM

Give me someone whose defensive philosophy is a little more sophisticated than standing on the sidelines, fingers crossed, praying that the guy you’re facing wll screw up.

Discflinger 01-27-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 222383)
I kinda hope they are! Take Frank and Chris with you as well Matt!

Never would have guessed.

Discflinger 01-27-2022 05:06 PM

Specifically I am talking about Rowe and Borgonzi.

Discflinger 01-27-2022 05:27 PM

On Twitter Bae’s fans are pissed, but maybe it’s just the normal toxic dribble.

apballin 01-27-2022 06:29 PM

Lovie Smith gets my vote

Oldcolt 01-27-2022 07:04 PM

No way it’s Smith. Reich likes young up and coming coaches that will leave for head coaching etc. Rowe is supposed to be brilliant. He is my guess, young not heavily experienced but huge upside. Plus he is from within, which I think Frank values.

Hoopsdoc 01-27-2022 08:05 PM

I don’t think Flus did a bad job with what he had to work with. Mainly a non existent pass rush. With even an average pass rush, I think the defense would have been top 10.

He’s clearly highly regarded around the league.

I just hope this isn’t a case of be careful what you wish for.

apballin 01-27-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 222399)
No way it’s Smith. Reich likes young up and coming coaches that will leave for head coaching etc. Rowe is supposed to be brilliant. He is my guess, young not heavily experienced but huge upside. Plus he is from within, which I think Frank values.

As far as I’m concerned I could give a fuck less what Frank wants, him calling for his long lost son at QB is the reason we’re in the situation we’re in. So having an experienced coach at D coordinator might also help Frank as a head coach. We need an experienced coach and Lovie is from the Dungy tree

Puck 01-27-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 222403)
I don’t think Flus did a bad job with what he had to work with. Mainly a non existent pass rush. With even an average pass rush, I think the defense would have been top 10.

He’s clearly highly regarded around the league.

I just hope this isn’t a case of be careful what you wish for.

Yep. That's my fear.

I really think you guys should investigate Wink Martindale.

All the coaches that have been mentions run the exact same D as Flus.

Cover 3..... Only real difference is the 3rd/4th down scheme.

Wink blitzes A LOT!

Obviously need some players to accomplish this. So with no matter who it is. Expect Ballard to do a lot to bring in more D talent. And that means less for the offense. Just sayin. be careful what you wish for

Here is a real good site to see what all teams play. It is from 2020. But the idea is still there

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-defensi...nfl-teams-2021

Puck 01-27-2022 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 222408)
As far as I’m concerned I could give a fuck less what Frank wants, him calling for his long lost son at QB is the reason we’re in the situation we’re in. So having an experienced coach at D coordinator might also help Frank as a head coach. We need an experienced coach and Lovie is from the Dungy tree

Lovie is an Associate Head Coach with the Texans.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-28-2022 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 222387)
Specifically I am talking about Rowe and Borgonzi.

Rapoport has reported that Eberflus may take Borgonzi with him to Chicago.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1486763982048399362

Quote:

Coaches generally get to take an assistant with them, and all signs point to that being LBs coach Dave Borgonzi who should end up with Eberflus in Chicago.

Rapoport also seems to think Flus may select former Colts / current Eagles passing game coordinator Kevin Patullo as his OC.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1486734854637117443

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With the Bears having finalized their deal with Matt Eberflus, what’s next for Justin Fields is a big question. Eagles passing game coordinator Kevin Patullo is a name to watch for new OC.

apballin 01-28-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222410)
Lovie is an Associate Head Coach with the Texans.

Oh I thought he was available I’ll have to look again now

Lovie smith or kris Richard

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-28-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222410)
Lovie is an Associate Head Coach with the Texans.


Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 222427)
Oh I thought he was available I’ll have to look again now

Lovie smith or kris Richard


Yes, Lovie is still on the Texans payroll - for now at least.

It is sort of a weird situation - their GM dismissed their head coach and OC and kept a lot of the other staff such as Lovie and Pep. I think their GM wants to keep Lovie, but things may change depending on who they hire for head coach.

Hoopsdoc 01-28-2022 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222409)
Yep. That's my fear.

I really think you guys should investigate Wink Martindale.

All the coaches that have been mentions run the exact same D as Flus.

Cover 3..... Only real difference is the 3rd/4th down scheme.

Wink blitzes A LOT!

Obviously need some players to accomplish this. So with no matter who it is. Expect Ballard to do a lot to bring in more D talent. And that means less for the offense. Just sayin. be careful what you wish for

Here is a real good site to see what all teams play. It is from 2020. But the idea is still there

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-defensi...nfl-teams-2021

According to PFT, the Colts finished in the top 10 in run defense and takeaways all 4 years he was here. They were the only defense to finish in the top 10 in scoring, run defense, and takeaways in each of the last 2 seasons.

Flus is a good coach and I’m not sure his replacement will actually be an upgrade. We can only hope, I guess.

It’s not like they could have kept him from leaving either, or that they would have even wanted to.

rcubed 01-28-2022 01:27 PM

^^^ plus 3 double digit blown leads this past season.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-28-2022 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 222387)
Specifically I am talking about Rowe and Borgonzi.


So now Rapoport is saying Eberflus is taking both Rowe and Borgonzi to Chicago. And a new front runner has emerged for Chicago's OC job - Green Bay's QB coach.

Hmm, I guess this would allow an external candidate for the Colts DC position a chance to help assemble the defensive staff - there will apparently be a lot of openings to fill.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1487151959924690944

Quote:

Luke Getsy as OC is the top priority for new Bears coach Matt Eberflus, but he’s already got a few defensive coaches on board — CBs coach James Rowe and LBs coach Dave Borgonzi.

Hoopsdoc 01-28-2022 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 222445)
^^^ plus 3 double digit blown leads this past season.

As I’m sure you know, that wasn’t all on the defense.

I’m not arguing that Eberflus was great or irreplaceable. I’m just saying the odds are the next guy they hire won’t be as good.

JAFF 01-28-2022 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 222371)
Be interesting to see who he takes with him. I hope our cupboards aren’t left bare.

There are many young coaches lined up for a chance

Kray007 01-28-2022 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 222408)
As far as I’m concerned I could give a fuck less what Frank wants, him calling for his long lost son at QB is the reason we’re in the situation we’re in. So having an experienced coach at D coordinator might also help Frank as a head coach. We need an experienced coach and Lovie is from the Dungy tree

I think we should chop down the Dungy tree, burn its branches and hire some guy with a machine to grind down the stump.

I’m sick and tired of watching bend but don’t break defenses designed to force the opposing offense to nickel and dime its way down the field on the stupid premise that, somewhere along the line, they’ll muck up.

I don’t want to stop the run on the way to the Quarterback.

I don’t want a coach who invented his scheme 50 years ago, who watched Offenses solve it 20 years ago, and then decided not to change a thing in response.

I don’t want a vanilla pass rush and a junior high school coverage scheme.

I don’t want prayer breakfasts and homilies at midfield.

I want a coach whose philosophy involves kicking the crap out of a guy when he’s down, then turning his dog on him.

Brylok 01-28-2022 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 222462)
As I’m sure you know, that wasn’t all on the defense.

I’m not arguing that Eberflus was great or irreplaceable. I’m just saying the odds are the next guy they hire won’t be as good.

This is my fear. I think Eberflus main problem was not having a pass rush. That's on Ballard. 'Flus did the best with what he had and did a good job considering. The next guy is going to have a difficult job ahead of him.

apballin 01-28-2022 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 222475)
I think we should chop down the Dungy tree, burn its branches and hire some guy with a machine to grind down the stump.

I’m sick and tired of watching bend but don’t break defenses designed to force the opposing offense to nickel and dime its way down the field on the stupid premise that, somewhere along the line, they’ll muck up.

I don’t want to stop the run on the way to the Quarterback.

I don’t want a coach who invented his scheme 50 years ago, who watched Offenses solve it 20 years ago, and then decided not to change a thing in response.

I don’t want a vanilla pass rush and a junior high school coverage scheme.

I don’t want prayer breakfasts and homilies at midfield.

I want a coach whose philosophy involves kicking the crap out of a guy when he’s down, then turning his dog on him.

Ok so you want Wink Martindale and the first time he blitzes with a lead you’ll go fuckin crazy

Puck 01-29-2022 01:16 AM

OK so more reading about Wink. He runs a 3-4 D. Not gonna happen here. Irsay Ballard have both said 4-3

Not gonna look up the articles. You can

Even though the Colts base is a 4-2-5. which can be ran out of 4-3 or 3-4

Not gonna happen

This position with the Colts is VERY appealing to any coordinator out there
(Thank you Flus for that)

My sights are moving towards Richards. He is the definition of what the Colts want to be

We shall see.

Still think we are gonna miss Flus. Hope I am wrong. But that dude made the most of what he had

Kray007 01-29-2022 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222484)
OK so more reading about Wink. He runs a 3-4 D. Not gonna happen here. Irsay Ballard have both said 4-3

Not gonna look up the articles. You can

Even though the Colts base is a 4-2-5. which can be ran out of 4-3 or 3-4

Not gonna happen

This position with the Colts is VERY appealing to any coordinator out there
(Thank you Flus for that)

My sights are moving towards Richards. He is the definition of what the Colts want to be

We shall see.

Still think we are gonna miss Flus. Hope I am wrong. But that dude made the most of what he had

A couple of weeks ago, Ballard said that the distinction between 34 and 43 was blurring because they all ended up in a 4 man front. It’s referenced on Friday mornings Kevin and Query show.

But, speculation in NY is that Wink is headed there to be Daboll’s DC.

Kray007 01-29-2022 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 222481)
Ok so you want Wink Martindale and the first time he blitzes with a lead you’ll go fuckin crazy

Colts might have no way to generate pressure other than blitzing. That is, unless you think that Paye and Odeyingbo are gonna morph into Freeney and Mathis.

JAFF 01-29-2022 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222484)
OK so more reading about Wink. He runs a 3-4 D. Not gonna happen here. Irsay Ballard have both said 4-3

Not gonna look up the articles. You can

Even though the Colts base is a 4-2-5. which can be ran out of 4-3 or 3-4

Not gonna happen

This position with the Colts is VERY appealing to any coordinator out there
(Thank you Flus for that)

My sights are moving towards Richards. He is the definition of what the Colts want to be

We shall see.

Still think we are gonna miss Flus. Hope I am wrong. But that dude made the most of what he had

I think IF the two young DEs they drafted this year improve their pass rush skills, the entire D is going to be better. Schemes only go so far. If they cant get more QB pressure/sacks the D coordinator wont matter

Racehorse 01-29-2022 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 222486)
Colts might have no way to generate pressure other than blitzing. That is, unless you think that Paye and Odeyingbo are gonna morph into Freeney and Mathis.

Morph? No way!

Develop? Good possibility.

IndyNorm 01-29-2022 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 222370)
Is it too much to ask to get someone smart enough to know the QB and the situation and not play 12 yards off Jax receivers?

Did any coach watch any film on them their last 8 games? WTF.

Not just against the Jagoffs, against everyone. We need to bring in someone who's scheme doesn't call for giving the opponent receiver's 15 yards of cushion on every single 3rd and long.

IndyNorm 01-29-2022 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 222360)
Flores and Zimmer would be good grabs. Not sure either one of them want a coordinators job after being head coaches. Flores got shafted in Miami with a bunch of internal bs and and an absentee owner.

Agree, either would be great. And unless they're in line for a HC job they'd probably take our DC job. Although they probably wouldn't plan on being here too long.

IndyNorm 01-29-2022 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 222409)
Yep. That's my fear.

I really think you guys should investigate Wink Martindale.

All the coaches that have been mentions run the exact same D as Flus.

Cover 3..... Only real difference is the 3rd/4th down scheme.

Wink blitzes A LOT!

Obviously need some players to accomplish this. So with no matter who it is. Expect Ballard to do a lot to bring in more D talent. And that means less for the offense. Just sayin. be careful what you wish for

Here is a real good site to see what all teams play. It is from 2020. But the idea is still there

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-defensi...nfl-teams-2021

3rd and 4th down (or at least 3rd/4th and long) is where we really need improvement.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-30-2022 11:00 AM

Eberflus may wind up taking much of this year's defensive staff with him to Chicago.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...91215991009289

Quote:

The Bears are targeting Colts safeties coach Alan Williams as their defensive coordinator, per sources. Interview process still ongoing. But Williams — the onetime Vikings DC — is a logical fit to follow Matt Eberflus from Indianapolis.

Brylok 01-31-2022 06:59 PM

Who will win a playoff game first? Eberflus and the Bears or the Colts?


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