Kurt Warner dissects Wentz's game
 

Well worth a watch if you want to see how crap Wentz is.

It's eye-opening how bad these reads are from Wentz when the film is broken down like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFlTsALb68&t=412s

Thanks. I don't have to watch it to know he is crap. I had hopes, but when he folded the last two weeks, that sealed it for me, and probably for Jim Irsay, as well.

Everyone on here needs to watch this.

This is just awful. Its like he doesn't know where his progression should start and doesn't know where he should go with the ball based on defender reactions. He's a slow processor.

When you go back and look at plays, he never thinks to use his outlet receiver. He is like the opposite of Jacoby.

Imagine the film Ballard and Reich are going to go through. HAHA

we'll see what Ballard says this week. If he doesnt say He's our QB then we know he's gone.

Man, that was depressing. Wentz looked like the rookie, based on Warner’s take. Like he said, Carson is too far in his career to not know where he is looking and what he is seeing.

I really didn't need Mr. Werner telling me what I already saw. (It was good watch though) His decision making was suspect all year. His pre snap changes were suspect most of the time. Defenses easily confused him with disguised coverages he didn't, or couldn't see. I tried hard to support the trade and him all year. It just became so unbearable.

Depressing, infuriating. You name it.

I knew he was bad and made terrible decisions, and regularly ignored JT with easy dump offs when he was wide open with acres of space in front of him, without film study, but that just took things to a whole new level.

I don't like Warner...any chance that Wentz beats his ass and we can get out of his contract that way?

Ugh, I bet Reich's stomach is churning.

But my question is, did they not see this before they brought him here? Warner has a good point, at this point in his career he should know who his key read defenders are. His scanning left to right then right to left in his progressions makes me wonder WTF is going on in his head. He holds the ball too long because he can't figure out if he can throw it there. He should know he can throw it there based on his reads.

This video should put to rest the notion "Our receivers are never open!". Nope, that is not what is happening.

I got an idea...

Let's throw it 26 straight times...

Much bigger problems than just the horrible QB...

People need to come to grips that this clown is going to be QB1 again next season.

I bet Irsay is on the phone with Peyton getting an earful.

You are like a broken record.

It's the number one problem because all offenses flow through the QB. If your QB is clueless out there nothing will work. If anything this validates that Reich's plays have guys open, Wentz is just unable to make the read and get the ball effectively to the right receiver.

Great, so he can't do his job, so have him work a double shift...makes great sense to me.

It really demonstrates how much of the QB position is between the ears. I really wish in the Raiders game they had started Ehlinger. We already know Wentz sucks even when he's had the practice, but without it? ...

It's great to have a strong arm, but if you don't know who to throw to or how to read the defense or just too damn slow on your progression, you end up getting "Wentzed"

Ehlinger wouldn't have won a single game if he'd played. We have big trouble at QB.

Fuck Kurt Warner

Some of these JT misses... Man. Beyond the slow/missed reads, his pocket feel is not there. Look at that bad pass to Pittman at around 15 mins...

First, it'd be nice if Glowinski wasn't having sweet love made to him by the DT... But Wentz doesn't seem to ever notice. He never seems to just drift away from the pressure for just a tiny bit of room and time. And he make a shit throw.

I don't think they will. I think they have seen enough. If he comes back it is likely because they can't get a better option.

No. Fuck Carson Wentz.

And that's almost certain.

That's one of the issues. When he scrambles, it doesn't feel like he is buying time with his legs, it feels like he is forcing and panicking a little. I watched David Mills throw a scramble TD the other day and he broke away from the line and just drifted to the flat looking for an outlet and eventually the defense broke down. He bought time with his legs and extended the play. Wentz would have run forward and shortened the distance between the nearest defender and reduced his time to throw and shortened the play. He tries to throw downfield while also running downfield, its like he can't make up his mind on what to do on any single play in almost every aspect.



And we haven't really mentioned his mechanics. If you look at his front foot in the video it is pointing 45° away from his target, hence why his throws are high. If you look at this video, they actually use Wentz as an example of good mechanics at the 14:40 mark when he was at the combine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlx...stDownTraining

He doesn't point at the receiver anymore. Anyone can try this out, go throw a football, but before you do, turn your lead foot away from where you are throwing and see how it messes up your accuracy. It feels unnatural.

Maybe, we will see. Off-seasons have been crazy the last couple of years.

Agreed. Both

I was only talking about the Raiders game. You know, the one that Wentz started without any practice whatsoever for the entire week, the one where he overthrew a wide open TY Hilton, the one that the team lost. So, if Ehlinger lost that game after practicing all week with the starters, we'd all be happy to see Wentz back to fuck up the Jags game.

I wanted them to keep Sam as the starter since he took all the first team reps. I would like to see what he could do with the starters. Preseason he played with scrubs, but his release was much quicker then Wentz. When he made a decision he went with it, run throw or pic. He committed and didn't just look lost

Maybe Wentz is so mentally broken that having Ehlinger start even one game would create another Foles type situation. He's that mentally shot. I think they need to cut Wentz in early March so they don't have to pay him even more millions in pay and bonuses. If they keep him and bring in legitimate competition, it'll create a Foles situation. We're in a bad spot right now, and the rest of the team has more holes than a porcupine's mattress..

The guy has got to go.

Tomorrow is a really big day for this franchise. Ballard's words are going to need to mean something. Presumptively given Irsay's issuance of an apology letter HE HAS TO BE to the point of telling both Ballard and Riech that Wentz MUST go--- if no reason other than to quell the rage of this fanbase, let alone because he sucks (and I was one that said he was what we needed--- and I was WRONG!).

If so, then Frank would presumably be on the firing line as well if he tries to go to the well again to support his guy. Frank better utter the statement "I was wrong, I F-d up, I agree, we have to get rid of him". If not, then you MUST send him packing as well.

We are damaged franchise in need of an overhaul and a lot of that now lays at the feet of Frank. Cut bait or cut your own head off IMO, and it should be fast- send the message that we are NOT willing to settle for this level of crap.

Dude... Frank aint goin anywhere redirect your anger

I could not imagine the FIRE FRANK threads on here if Sam would have played like Wentz did and lost

"should have played Wentz ...."

I was on the Wentz bandwagon but now drifting off. Something about the guy after watching Hard Knocks makes me feel he is different in a weird way. I also see what Rivers did last yr and can COMPLETELY dismiss Chopped's rants Frank can't coach Not sure Wentz has the stuff

That saying. I'd rather give him a yr since were paying him anyway and start looking. Unless Rogers is available.

I dont want any part of Wilson. He's a dick and and diva Fuck him Rather have JB.

Is Warner available for QB job?

Of course he isn't, but something has to change. We cannot "run it back" ala the Pacers current ocean of mediocrity.

After the way things went the final 2 weeks, it should just a be a ballot process. Each guy gets one entering the facility, two boxes: Keep Wentz, Dump Wentz. Those that check option 1, get canned too.

Man I heard something today, think it was Dacich- talking about how they would do a Nelson and Leonard for Wilson straight up.... WHAT?

Dude is 32, had a finger that was mutilated and sure appears to be an about Wilson type guy, uhhhh no.

fuck wilson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw this on Twitter. I think a bad QB is just a bad QB. Coaching isn’t some magical fix all. Need players to be able to execute first.

https://i.ibb.co/VjTk5t6/D588-EDDA-1...1946-D89-B.jpg

Gardner Minshew anyone? Throws with anticipation. Accurate. Sees the field.

One more thing, he hates the Jaguars, so he will always be up for that game.

https://youtu.be/PBHN3dflVyM

Maybe the Colts need to hire Kurt Warner as a consultant before they decide who to bring in to compete for the QB job next season....do we really want just Reich and Ballard making that decision considering how much they gave up for Wentz and were convinced he was worth it?

I might consider it for just Nelson. He's about to become very, very expensive.

I haven't lived in Indy for a long-ass time, but I listened to Dakich a bit here and there over the summer.... when did that fucker go off the deep end? And is he buddies with Grigson or something?