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omahacolt 10-31-2021 07:19 PM

quick thoughts on the tits
 
1) as daedge pointed out. throwing the ball 51 times with a dipshit like carson wentz isn't winning football. as we saw. now i don't know about heavy boxes or what not but when you have the weapons we have (not much) you have to keep using your go to guys. and that is taylor.

2) wentz isn't the guy. many off target passes today. he fumbles every game. we all saw the debacle at the end of the game. ballard gave up too much for that caliber of player. wentz can beat bad teams but he isn't the guy we need to lead the team and he doesn't have the brain to ever be a top 10 qb.

3) taylor should see 25 touches a game. he should be a focal point of the offense. not an afterthought.

4) rotating linemen is fucking retarded and nobody but the colts does it. stop. play the best fucking players and stop fucking around.

5) fisher looked better this week. that was a positive. okerereke has been playing better of late as well.

6) Odum was very visible when he got a good run of snaps. he should be the first safety off the bench.

7) year after year pascal is essentially our #2 wr. that is a fucking failure by ballard. i like pascal. if he is getting more than 25% of the offensive snaps then you are bad at your job.

8) turay is the wentz of the defense. just a moron that occasionally makes a good play.

9) pittman jr is a fucking man.

10) paye was mostly invisible again. kid has to learn to rush the passer. we have no pass rush. a problem for years that hasn't been properly addressed and the entire defense is a joke because of it.

11) 8-15 yards over the middle is open every single play. what the fuck? why is that every single game?

12) we aren't close to really competing as i see it. we have major holes. ballard needs to get to fucking bringing in talent or he needs to see the fucking door.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:25 PM

As I see it, today means it’s time to start looking toward next season. We’re stuck with Reich for the foreseeable future which means we’re stuck with Wentz for the foreseeable future. Might as well get used to it.

I feel like today is the day I realized we are never winning anything with Reich.

omahacolt 10-31-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209642)
As I see it, today means it’s time to start looking toward next season. We’re stuck with Reich for the foreseeable future which means we’re stuck with Wentz for the foreseeable future. Might as well get used to it.

I feel like today is the day I realized we are never winning anything with Reich.

we lack talent all over the board. reich isn't the main issue

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209643)
we lack talent all over the board. reich isn't the main issue

Bullshit. Today and the Baltimore game should have been wins if not for Reichs stupidity. They also played the Rams down to the wire and had an opportunity to win that game. Teams completely devoid of talent don’t do those things. See Houston and Detroit.

Ballard has had some whiffs for sure but this season is squarely on Reichs shoulders. At least as much as Ballard.

Also, I think you’re being a little harsh on point 7. Hilton and Campbell were supposed to be the 2nd and 3rd wide receivers and they’re both hurt.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209643)
we lack talent all over the board. reich isn't the main issue

It’s not Ballard who’s throwing 51 times and running the stud running back 16 times. It’s not Ballard giving said stud running back 18 carries in a fucking monsoon, including zero in the critical stage of the game, late in the 4th quarter.

You can quibble with some of Ballards flaws, but as someone else said, Tony Dungy would have this team at 6-2 at least.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209643)
we lack talent all over the board. reich isn't the main issue

Hell, your point number 3 is a direct indictment of Reich. Everything on offense should START with Taylor. We’ve all been saying that all season long.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:51 PM

Hell, look at the Titans. Win or lose, they’re going to ride their best player. That’s why Derrick Henry got less than 70 yards on 28 carries. That offense flows through Henry. He is their identity.

What’s the Colts identity on offense? They don’t have one. They have a coach who is convinced he’s the smartest guy in the stadium every week.

It’s ridiculous.

omahacolt 10-31-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209647)
Bullshit. Today and the Baltimore game should have been wins if not for Reichs stupidity. They also played the Rams down to the wire and had an opportunity to win that game. Teams completely devoid of talent don’t do those things. See Houston and Detroit.

Ballard has had some whiffs for sure but this season is squarely on Reichs shoulders. At least as much as Ballard.

Also, I think you’re being a little harsh on point 7. Hilton and Campbell were supposed to be the 2nd and 3rd wide receivers and they’re both hurt.

you are relying on campbell to play?

the jets beat the bengals. are they good? i am not saying reich is a perfect coach but the complete failure to get pass rushers, quality wr depth and secondary is a major issue

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209663)
you are relying on campbell to play?

the jets beat the bengals. are they good? i am not saying reich is a perfect coach but the complete failure to get pass rushers, quality wr depth and secondary is a major issue

I mean, how many guys do you want him to sign? They signed Coutee after Campbell got hurt. They have Strachan and Patmon, who they apparently don’t trust enough to give a shot.

Who do you think he should have signed?

Oldcolt 10-31-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209663)
you are relying on campbell to play?

the jets beat the bengals. are they good? i am not saying reich is a perfect coach but the complete failure to get pass rushers, quality wr depth and secondary is a major issue

Yes, this is the issue. I think if we had a decent pass rush everything else would take care of itself. We don't and that is on both Ballard (mostly), Reich and his staff in my opinion. They decided to draft raw physically talented people who were not good football players. They believed that the coaching staff could turn them into good players because the Colts were so good at getting the 'right' kind of player (whatever the hell that is). So far not so good. Stupid, stubborn play calling doesn't help but this team is in no way talented enough to do damage in the playoffs.

omahacolt 10-31-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209666)
I mean, how many guys do you want him to sign? They signed Coutee after Campbell got hurt. They have Strachan and Patmon, who they apparently don’t trust enough to give a shot.

Who do you think he should have signed?

did you not just point to how shitty their depth is?

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209670)
did you not just point to how shitty their depth is?

I don’t think their depth at wr is any worse than any other team. Or at least it wasn’t before all the injuries. Pittman, Hilton, Campbell, and Pascal isn’t a bad rotation.

Now, defensive end is another story.

apballin 10-31-2021 09:35 PM

This one is 100% on Reich, up 14-0 it should’ve been pound Taylor and take the air out of the Titans no instead go for it on 4th down and fail give the Titans the ball at midfield by that point in the game the message had been sent already. This game should’ve been a blowout and Reich has a way of making games close thru shitty in game decisions or getting cute with play calling. Pittman should’ve had 200 yards receiving today he was unstoppable instead we kept throwing to Dulin??? A TE screen from the shadows of your own end zone WTF???

I was screaming at the end of the game “ Go for 2!!!” Reich has balls early in games then chokes up with the game on the line. At that point we didn’t even deserve to win so fuckin steal it right there the offense hadn’t done SHIT since the 1st quarter

IndyNorm 10-31-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209666)
I mean, how many guys do you want him to sign? They signed Coutee after Campbell got hurt. They have Strachan and Patmon, who they apparently don’t trust enough to give a shot.

Who do you think he should have signed?

What is the deal with Strachan? He made a couple of nice catches against SEA then no playing time after that. I get he's raw, but has a ton of talent and you'd think if he was getting snaps week 1 he'd be more involved by now.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 209686)
What is the deal with Strachan? He made a couple of nice catches against SEA then no playing time after that. I get he's raw, but has a ton of talent and you'd think if he was getting snaps week 1 he'd be more involved by now.

Who the heck knows? I agree he should be getting more snaps. He’s already better than Dulin.

omahacolt 10-31-2021 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209680)
I don’t think their depth at wr is any worse than any other team. Or at least it wasn’t before all the injuries. Pittman, Hilton, Campbell, and Pascal isn’t a bad rotation.

Now, defensive end is another story.

what has campbell done in this league?

hilton is over 30 and has had injury issues the last few years. pascal is a fine 4 but he has been our 2 for 3 or 4 years now.

YDFL Commish 10-31-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 209686)
What is the deal with Strachan? He made a couple of nice catches against SEA then no playing time after that. I get he's raw, but has a ton of talent and you'd think if he was getting snaps week 1 he'd be more involved by now.

I actually have more of a problem with Dublin seeing offensive playing time over Coutee, who is a proven NFL commodity.

YDFL Commish 11-01-2021 12:08 AM

Okay, I get the criticism of Wentz. But, how soon we forget Peyton's hero ball antics throughout his career.

2010: 2 TD'S 4 INT'S vs Cowboys
2007: 2 TD'S 6 INT'S vs Chargers
2001: 1 TD'S 4 INT'S vs 49'rs

These are just a a few of the games off the top of my head that I remembered terrible hero ball play by Peyton. I'm sure many of you could come up with more.

So, I'm not defending Wentz here, just explaining that sometimes you've got to take the good with the bad. Also Wentz hasn't had the luxury of the supporting cast that Peyton had or the continuity of 1 offensive system his entire career.

One thing on Reich. He and the entire organization, for the most part have said that JT is the best player on the field.

WTF! Either you're lying or you're stupid...which is it?

Spike 11-01-2021 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 209706)
Okay, I get the criticism of Wentz. But, how soon we forget Peyton's hero ball antics throughout his career.

2010: 2 TD'S 4 INT'S vs Cowboys
2007: 2 TD'S 6 INT'S vs Chargers
2001: 1 TD'S 4 INT'S vs 49'rs

These are just a a few of the games off the top of my head that I remembered terrible hero ball play by Peyton. I'm sure many of you could come up with more.

So, I'm not defending Wentz here, just explaining that sometimes you've got to take the good with the bad. Also Wentz hasn't had the luxury of the supporting cast that Peyton had or the continuity of 1 offensive system his entire career.

One thing on Reich. He and the entire organization, for the most part have said that JT is the best player on the field.

WTF! Either you're lying or you're stupid...which is it?

Well, I don't think he is lying.

Chromeburn 11-01-2021 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 209686)
What is the deal with Strachan? He made a couple of nice catches against SEA then no playing time after that. I get he's raw, but has a ton of talent and you'd think if he was getting snaps week 1 he'd be more involved by now.

He’s a project, so is Patmon. You can’t expect 7th round rookie picks to come in and dominate. WR is one of the toughest positions to move up from college. It has a very high failure rate. And usually it’s only higher picks that do it.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-01-2021 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 209709)
He’s a project, so is Patmon. You can’t expect 7th round rookie picks to come in and dominate. WR is one of the toughest positions to move up from college. It has a very high failure rate. And usually it’s only higher picks that do it.

Earlier this season, the coaches were asked why he wasn't receiving playing time. Their answer at the time was that Strachan had only learned one of the WR positions / routes so far and that Reich preferred the WR's know all the routes before playing extensively. There is some benefit to that line of thought - it helps when you know where your teammates are supposed to be on the play. If you start allowing one WR to only learn one route and another WR to only learn another route - it also could get a bit difficult juggling the line-up if you have in-game injuries.

Racehorse 11-01-2021 06:57 AM

Are we sure Reich is why Taylor doesn't get the ball often enough? Is it out of the realm of possibility that Wentz checks out of plays for Taylor into plays for Wentz? When they work, we don't notice as much, but when we struggle, it seems like it is by design when it may be some of the "hero ball" we have heard about.

HoosierinFL 11-01-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 209720)
Are we sure Reich is why Taylor doesn't get the ball often enough? Is it out of the realm of possibility that Wentz checks out of plays for Taylor into plays for Wentz? When they work, we don't notice as much, but when we struggle, it seems like it is by design when it may be some of the "hero ball" we have heard about.

If so Reich could also rein him in and tell him to stop

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 209720)
Are we sure Reich is why Taylor doesn't get the ball often enough? Is it out of the realm of possibility that Wentz checks out of plays for Taylor into plays for Wentz? When they work, we don't notice as much, but when we struggle, it seems like it is by design when it may be some of the "hero ball" we have heard about.

That would still be Reichs fault though. He’s the one in charge.

Voosh 11-01-2021 09:31 AM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...60465043202048

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Titans’ RB Derrick Henry suffered a potentially season-ending foot injury during Sunday’s 34-31 win over Indianapolis, sources reported ESPN. Henry is undergoing an MRI today to determine the full extent of the damage.

njcoltfan 11-01-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Voosh (Post 209733)

. That’s a shame!!

Oldcolt 11-01-2021 10:51 AM

Doesn't help us one bit if Henry is hurt. Yes it might make it easier to make the playoffs (doubt it with the lead we have given them) but even if we do it will be to watch our asses get kicked in the first game of the playoffs. It would also most likely make us have to watch Reich call plays for more years as a team that makes the playoffs ain't canning the coach. I'm rooting for a quick return for Henry.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 209741)
Doesn't help us one bit if Henry is hurt. Yes it might make it easier to make the playoffs (doubt it with the lead we have given them) but even if we do it will be to watch our asses get kicked in the first game of the playoffs. It would also most likely make us have to watch Reich call plays for more years as a team that makes the playoffs ain't canning the coach. I'm rooting for a quick return for Henry.

They’re not canning Reich this year anyway, barring a complete collapse. He and Wentz will both be back next year.

Oldcolt 11-01-2021 11:09 AM

I agree Reich isn't going anywhere next year. But this is going to continue and a playoff this year means many more years of this crap. I love how Ballard insists that he is building 'locker room culture". Culture of bragging and losing. I'm so impressed that this team is so pissed after each and every loss. They don't do anything to change it but they sure do talk about how angry they are about losing and how good they really are. I can't stand this group.

Chromeburn 11-01-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 209710)
Earlier this season, the coaches were asked why he wasn't receiving playing time. Their answer at the time was that Strachan had only learned one of the WR positions / routes so far and that Reich preferred the WR's know all the routes before playing extensively. There is some benefit to that line of thought - it helps when you know where your teammates are supposed to be on the play. If you start allowing one WR to only learn one route and another WR to only learn another route - it also could get a bit difficult juggling the line-up if you have in-game injuries.

Which makes sense and is fine. It also makes it harder for the defense to plan if you don't know where a WR is going to lineup. But we may not have a choice now and will likely see Strachan and Patmon out there. Which means more mistakes and miscommunication.

Chromeburn 11-01-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 209720)
Are we sure Reich is why Taylor doesn't get the ball often enough? Is it out of the realm of possibility that Wentz checks out of plays for Taylor into plays for Wentz? When they work, we don't notice as much, but when we struggle, it seems like it is by design when it may be some of the "hero ball" we have heard about.

No, it isn't. I did see lots of 8-9 man boxes at times. They were daring us to throw. Often times Wentz was using motion to check if they were in man or zone. But if they are daring us to throw, we should be able to throw against single coverage. We don't have an elite route runner, TY has almost lost his speed or is just too hurt. We are going to see more of this going forward. We need better WR's, have to have more than one. May have to use the 2nd round pick on one.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2021 01:20 PM

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As exasperated as I feel about yesterday's very winnable loss, I am reminding myself that the Colts are the only team in the AFC South that is in the same stratosphere as the Titans ...... they may not catch the Titans this season for the division title as they are essentially 4 games behind them because of the season sweep, and they may not even make the playoffs as a Wildcard, but the fact remains that the Colts as currently constructed are no doubt capable of beating the Titans, as well as other very good teams like the Rams and the Ravens.

Yesterday's game was marred by some very questionable play-calling, some choking by Carson Wentz in several critical situations, and by some very questionable refereeing by the men in the striped shirts ...... if any one of those 3 situations are different, it is likely that the Colts would have won the game.


All of that said, I also understand that the dog would have caught rabbit if he hadn't stopped to take a piss, that my aunt would be my uncle if she had balls, etc.

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HoosierinFL 11-01-2021 03:38 PM

My thoughts:

Its easy to look at the score and think 31 points ought to be enough to win, the problem is the defense giving up 34.

And that has to be at least partially true.

But we also have to consider the offenses inability to sustain drives, limiting the number of possessions. And for that we need balance in run vs pass, and we were not balanced. We were not balanced vs the Ravens either. And in both cases we repeatedly gave the ball back to the opposing team enough times to let them score again and again.

Run the damn ball.

Its also easy to look at Wentz playing hero ball, and blame him, but honestly he's not the guy to win the game for you like that. But he should never be in that position. When playing within the offensive scheme, he is pretty good. And when the game goes off the rails, he does too. Wentz should be forced into being more of a game manager, and that comes down to the offensive playcalling and underlying philosophy, which has repeatedly broken down.

How many times have we had this conversation about the situational play calling, time management, and letting winnable games slip away?

How many times have the coaches said we have to learn from these mistakes but they never seem to change?

HoosierinFL 11-01-2021 03:40 PM

It looks like the playoffs are out of the picture at this time.
The wildcard teams will be likely be 10-11 game winners and we don't have enough easy games left to hit that mark, and I have no confidence in beating any of the good teams left on the schedule.

Winning the division was the most realistic path, and we just lost that, unless Tennessee really does lose Henry for the season and goes on a massive losing streak.

Racehorse 11-01-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 209777)
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As exasperated as I feel about yesterday's very winnable loss, I am reminding myself that the Colts are the only ones in the AFC South that is in the same stratosphere as the Titans ...... they may not catch the Titans this season for the division title as they are essentially 4 games behind them because of the season sweep, and they may not even make the playoffs as a Wildcard, but the fact remains that the Colts as currently constructed are no doubt capable of beating the Titans, as well as other very good teams like the Rams and the Ravens.

Yesterday's game was marred by some very questionable play-calling, some choking by Carson Wentz in several critical situations, and by some very questionable refereeing by the men in the striped shirts ...... if any one of those 3 situations are different, it is likely that the Colts would have won the game.


All of that said, I also understand that the dog would have caught rabbit if he hadn't stopped to take a piss, that my aunt would be my uncle if she had balls, etc.

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If I read this right, you are saying we are closer to being a great team than we are to being the Jaguars. I agree. We are 3-5, but easily could be 6-2 if a few things had gone our way. The future is bright, and if we pick up a couple (or two couples) of key players, we will be hard to beat.

YDFL Commish 11-01-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 209860)
If I read this right, you are saying we are closer to being a great team than we are to being the Jaguars. I agree. We are 3-5, but easily could be 6-2 if a few things had gone our way. The future is bright, and if we pick up a couple (or two couples) of key players, we will be hard to beat.

The few things that have to go our way are not better players...but better play calling and better execution.

The Ravens game where we were playing street DB's in the 4th quarter would be the exception.

rm1369 11-01-2021 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 209867)
The few things that have to go our way are not better players...but better play calling and better execution.

The Ravens game where we were playing street DB's in the 4th quarter would be the exception.

Seattle game where the offense hadn’t practiced together nearly at all due to injury and Covid stupidity? Week two with shitty injured oline and a hurt QB that can’t play the potential game winning drive? Week 3 with no vet backup QB and the starter with two sprained ankles operating at maybe 40%?

rcubed 11-02-2021 12:56 AM

Hmmmm. Maybe, just maybe its both

Dam8610 11-02-2021 09:49 AM

Oh look, Vrabel brought something with him from New England:

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2021...-colts-week-8/

It's cheating, of course.

Spike 11-02-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 209902)
Oh look, Vrabel brought something with him from New England:

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2021...-colts-week-8/

It's cheating, of course.

Cheating bastards. Then they fine them a couple hundred thousand dollars and all is forgotten. They need to take wins away from any team caught cheating, that will teach those assholes. Goodell has been a terrible commissioner.


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