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Racehorse 09-12-2021 04:45 PM

Overreaction thread
 
We lost week 1. Like always. There are reasons for concern, but also reason for hope, We need to be more creative offensively, and more aggressive defensively. Hines and Taylor looked good. So did the other WRs, when Wentz had time. Lines looked pretty bad. This is very concerning. Can we ever start a season, or even a game, on fire? That is where I am worried the most.

Flame on, guys!

ChoppedWood 09-12-2021 05:06 PM

As you said, lines were atrocious and that is something that has to improve dramatically or this season will be crap.

Wentz looked like he will be fine- was nice to see balls thrown with force between the hashes.

Chromeburn 09-12-2021 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 201737)
We lost week 1. Like always. There are reasons for concern, but also reason for hope, We need to be more creative offensively, and more aggressive defensively. Hines and Taylor looked good. So did the other WRs, when Wentz had time. Lines looked pretty bad. This is very concerning. Can we ever start a season, or even a game, on fire? That is where I am worried the most.

Flame on, guys!

I think part of that comes from having an established QB and as Kelly noted, he has had a different QB every year he has been with the Colts. Hard to have consistency if you have a new QB every year.

Racehorse 09-12-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 201739)
I think part of that comes from having an established QB and as Kelly noted, he has had a different QB every year he has been with the Colts. Hard to have consistency if you have a new QB every year.

I hope that is it. If so, next year should be a better start.

JAFF 09-12-2021 06:09 PM

Its not always. I’m sure they must have one an opener since 2001

Luck4Reich 09-12-2021 06:20 PM

@Colts
center Ryan Kelly on Carson Wentz: "Unfortunately you saw how tough he was today. Doesn’t feel really good as an offensive line."

Oldcolt 09-12-2021 06:24 PM

When we traded for him most folks said Wentz was only supposed to have to play ok. He did that. He wasn't an interception machine and didn't play hero ball. That should have been enough since we were supposed to have this well rounded team. We didn't play like a well rounded team. We didn't play like to our strengths. Not having the offensive line play together all preseason could have been an issue, if we are lucky. I think we are going to get a whole lot better but think we may be a year away from putting it all together. Defensive ends need to get experience and I'm not sure about our corner backs. Hard to say for sure since the entire defense sucked today.

njcoltfan 09-12-2021 07:37 PM

Some really good teams lost today, the Packers, Bills, Browns and Titans.I’ll bet their fans are going crazy too.It’s only week one, and I for one didn’t expect a win today. I’m gonna have a bourbon or two and look forward to next week.

nate505 09-12-2021 07:40 PM

Play calling and coaching decisions were abysmal. Not kicking the FG to get out to one possession was one of the more atrocious coaching decisions I've ever seen.

IndyNorm 09-12-2021 08:13 PM

The Colts have sucked on week one for so long that this really shouldn't bother us much, although how bad the D and OL were today is troubling. Now if we get spanked this bad again next week then we should probably start to worry.

Anyway, at least we didn't lose to the Jags today.

IndyNorm 09-12-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 201762)
Its not always. I’m sure they must have one an opener since 2001

If memory serves me correctly we had impressive wins in the '05-'07 openers with a solid win @ Balt, then blow out wins @ NYG and vs. NOLA respectively. We also won the openers in '02, '03, '09, and '13, but all just barely against bad teams.

Colts And Orioles 09-12-2021 09:12 PM

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I'm going to overreact by saying that Carson Wentz' numbers for today's game (25-for-38 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's) bodes well for the future of the Colts' 2021 season.

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YDFL Commish 09-12-2021 09:34 PM

Both lines lost the battle...end of story.

I would like to see the ball come out of Wentz hand quicker though, hopefully that will come with time.

Do we have a deep threat w/o TY? I'm not seeing it.

Where was Kwity Paye?

Blackmon has got to step it up.

How much do we miss Anthony Walker?

Butter 09-12-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 201814)
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I'm going to overreact by saying that Carson Wentz' numbers for today's game (25-for-38 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's) bodes well for the future of the Colts' 2021 season.

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He was certainly not the problem today.

Oldcolt 09-12-2021 10:52 PM

Ballard has built this team to win in the trenches. When we get our asses handed to us in the trenches we have zero chance. I don't know the reasons why but to be obvious, we need to get this fixed.

daedge 09-13-2021 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 201814)
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I'm going to overreact by saying that Carson Wentz' numbers for today's game (25-for-38 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's) bodes well for the future of the Colts' 2021 season.

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Absolutely, given he had a hugely disruptive pre-season, No TY Hilton, and he must have felt like he was still in Philly when he had defenders in his face every time he dropped back.

He wasn't given a chance to do jack shit, yet put up some pretty decent numbers and made some nice throws. I was impressed with how often he didn't force it and instead hit Taylor underneath.

Hoopsdoc 09-13-2021 05:03 AM

Seeing the Rams destroy Chicago has me convinced we’re starting out 0-2.

They’re gonna kill us.

albany ed 09-13-2021 06:21 AM

You only need to look at the AFC South standings to know that 1 game at the start of the season does not reflect how the season will go. I mean, the Texans are alone at the top!

JAFF 09-13-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 201842)
Seeing the Rams destroy Chicago has me convinced we’re starting out 0-2.

They’re gonna kill us.

https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M

Luck4Reich 09-13-2021 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 201842)
Seeing the Rams destroy Chicago has me convinced we’re starting out 0-2.

They’re gonna kill us.

Nah. I think this team is better than that. Bears haven't been a measure stick in what seems like 40 years lol

I think they come out a much different team next week. I bet Fisher starts and the line looks better as well.

Hoopsdoc 09-13-2021 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 201848)
Nah. I think this team is better than that. Bears haven't been a measure stick in what seems like 40 years lol

I think they come out a much different team next week. I bet Fisher starts and the line looks better as well.

The Rams are a better team than Seattle. Their defense is number 1 and now they have Stafford. I think they’re winning it all.

We’re not beating LA unless we play a pretty damn good game, which I’m not confident we will.

dwilli57 09-13-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 201854)
The Rams are a better team than Seattle. Their defense is number 1 and now they have Stafford. I think they’re winning it all.

We’re not beating LA unless we play a pretty damn good game, which I’m not confident we will.

They may beat us but they're NOT winning it all. You have way too much confidence in Stafford.

Hoopsdoc 09-13-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dwilli57 (Post 201858)
They may beat us but they're NOT winning it all. You have way too much confidence in Stafford.

Stafford in Detroit wasn’t a problem.

Stafford in LA paired with Mcvay is a BIG problem.

Brylok 09-13-2021 12:49 PM

Oddly enough, I'm not even a bit upset. The off-season was a rollercoaster and the team didn't look ready. Russell Wilson is always going to win that game given those circumstances. We go again Sunday. Rams are currently favored -4 in Indianapolis.

rcubed 09-13-2021 12:59 PM

I dont get upset about the colts anymore, maybe that just comes with age. I was disappointed with the performance of the lines though. If we can get that cleaned up I think we will have a pretty decent year, but are definitely not championship ready.

If we play next week like yesterday, its going to be real ugly against the rams.

Colts And Orioles 09-13-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 201842)



Seeing the Rams destroy Chicago has me convinced we’re starting out 0-2.

They’re gonna kill us.



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They very well may kill us, but don't underestimate the ability of this franchise to right the ship with a win when it is most needed. 8 years ago, the 1-1 Colts were expected to get destroyed when they went to San Francisco to play the defending NFC champion 49ers with their young, mobile quarterback (Colin Kaepernick.) The Colts had barely gotten by the lowly Raiders on Opening Day, and lost to the Dolphins in Week 2. Dwight Mathis led a surprisingly dominant Colts defense to a 27-7 thumping of the 'Niners that afternoon, on their home-field.


http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/...2013-03-ind-sf


Yes, Mathis and pretty much everybody from that team are gone (including the head coach and his assistants), but it is still part of Horseshoe history, and there have been more recent examples of this team/franchise staring down seemingly inevitable disaster and coming through with a W. Just last season after losing to the Ravens, the Colts were facing the 6-2, 1st-place Tennessee Titans on their home-field in Nashville. Ryan Tannehill was in the midst of the best season of his career (33 TD's, 7 INT's.) The Colts' defense shut down Tannehill and company in the 2nd half on their way to a decisive, 34-17 victory.


http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/...020-10-ind-ten



The following week, the Colts unexpectedly beat Aaron Rogers' Packers in OT on national television.


http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/...2020-11-gb-ind



The odds may be against them, but don't necessarily count out the Colts when they are staring into the face of the abyss.

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Brylok 09-13-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 201888)
I dont get upset about the colts anymore, maybe that just comes with age.

I was thinking about this yesterday. It seems to me that the further we get away from the Manning days and the (good) Luck days, losing doesn't bother me as much anymore. Especially losing the first game as has become tradition. I'm middle age now, not "old", but I'm not upset for a week anymore if we lose. A loss deep in the playoffs might do it, but we usually don't get there anyway.

rcubed 09-13-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 201899)
I was thinking about this yesterday. It seems to me that the further we get away from the Manning days and the (good) Luck days, losing doesn't bother me as much anymore. Especially losing the first game as has become tradition. I'm middle age now, not "old", but I'm not upset for a week anymore if we lose. A loss deep in the playoffs might do it, but we usually don't get there anyway.

Same. I am 46 now and with all the other thing I have going on, work, kids, house, etc, I just dont have time or energy to get that worked up with a loss. When I was younger it bothered me a lot more.

Oldcolt 09-13-2021 03:20 PM

At 68 it bugs you even less. Life ends up hitting everyone with things that really count. I still get pissed big time, but it doesn't last once the freaking game is over. If I stopped getting pissed I'd stop watching because, for me, it would mean I don't care. I enjoy nothing better than watching the Colts turn it around. Hoping they do it again but think we are a year away from competing for championship. I will enjoy watching Paye et al improve to the point of dominating.

DragonTails 09-13-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 201795)
Play calling and coaching decisions were abysmal. Not kicking the FG to get out to one possession was one of the more atrocious coaching decisions I've ever seen.

Seems like you could say this after each game the last 3 years. SSDD.

This coaching staff sucks.

Brylok 09-13-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 201905)
Same. I am 46 now...

Me too, minus the wife and kids tho.

JAFF 09-13-2021 07:59 PM

With all the stuff going on in the world, losing an nfl game is a minor inconvenience. I’m 63 and have lost friends and neighbors. Not just to the pandemic. With all the craziness, my family is safe, Im a year from retirement, and maybe paying for a wedding.

Im hoping for a better game this week

njcoltfan 09-14-2021 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 201914)
At 68 it bugs you even less. Life ends up hitting everyone with things that really count. I still get pissed big time, but it doesn't last once the freaking game is over. If I stopped getting pissed I'd stop watching because, for me, it would mean I don't care. I enjoy nothing better than watching the Colts turn it around. Hoping they do it again but think we are a year away from competing for championship. I will enjoy watching Paye et al improve to the point of dominating.

I'm close to 75, and it pissed me off when Unitas lost, it pissed me off when Jones lost, it pissed me off when Manning lost, it pissed me off when Luck lost, it pisses me off whenever the Colts lose !

Chromeburn 09-18-2021 09:46 AM

You guys were pissed after last weeks results. We could have both tackles out this week. It will get ugly. We might keep that first round pick after all if last week was a clue.

Colts And Orioles 09-19-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 201814)
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I'm going to overreact by saying that Carson Wentz' numbers for today's game (25-for-38 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's) bodes well for the future of the Colts' 2021 season.


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A similar overreaction, on the positive side ...... I was very impressed with Carson Wentz today, especially with his ability to avoid sacks. Philip Rivers probably would have gone down at least 5 or 6 times today under similar pressure if he had decided to come back for another season.

Also, I am actually hoping that Wentz' injury is a twisted ankle, even though they are a bitch to try to heal in a short period time ...... I think that it would be much worse if he re-injured the foot that he just had surgery on, reminding somewhat of Peyton Manning's final season with the Broncos when he missed almost half the season with plantar fasciitis, and could only play effectively for about 2 and-a-half quarters when he did come back for the final game of the regular season and the playoffs.

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Colts And Orioles 09-19-2021 05:05 PM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Wentz had surgery on the left foot. Today, he injured the lower right leg/foot ...... my bad.

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Colts And Orioles 01-03-2022 11:32 AM

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(JANUARY 3rd)


1) l Carson Wentz is the worst quarterback in the history of the NFL (and the AFL.)

2) l This Colts team has no spine ...... I don't care that they beat the Bills on the road, the Patriots in a nationally-televised game, and the Cardinals with almost their entire starting lineup missing. When push comes to shove, I know that they will find a way to lose the big game. Yesterday afternoon was the quintessential example of that.

3) l Jonathan Taylor is overrated. The guy gained 108 yard rushing yesterday, and he still couldn't find a way to vault his team to a victory ...... talk about all flash and no substance.

4) l Darius Leonard is overrated. Yeah, sure, he saved the Colts 10 points yesterday by forcing Marcus Mariota to fumble which made the Raiders have to settle for a field goal instead of a touchdown. And in doing so, he allowed the Colts enough time to score a touchdown of their own right before halftime ...... but what about that useless INT that he had in the 2nd half ??? The Colts' offense couldn't do a damned thing with it. If Leonard were REALLY as good as everybody says that he is, his INT would have inspired that useless putz of a quarterback that we have to lead the offense to put at least 3 points on the board in the ensuing drive.

5) l I have rooted my final game for this gutless organization. I don't know why I stayed with them this long ...... that appearance in the 1971 AFC championship game got me hooked, but enough is enough. Right then and there, I should have known better than to be rooting for a team that loses a championship game by a score of 21-0. I'll cut myself come slack because of the fact that was only 6 years-old at the time, but now that I'm 56 I know better.

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Oldcolt 01-03-2022 12:32 PM

It is not an overreaction to say Wentz has shown exactly zero ability to play under pressure. He makes a great throw once in a while, but makes up for that by missing throws almost any reliable QB could make. He is a whiner who takes no responsibility for himself, a shit leader. We win in spite of the guy. He and Frank have bonded on a much deeper level than football so he will never leave this team as long as Reich is our coach. For me he is the least likable, most difficult Colt QB to root for since Schlichter.

rm1369 01-03-2022 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 219095)
It is not an overreaction to say Wentz has shown exactly zero ability to play under pressure. He makes a great throw once in a while, but makes up for that by missing throws almost any reliable QB could make. He is a whiner who takes no responsibility for himself, a shit leader. We win in spite of the guy. He and Frank have bonded on a much deeper level than football so he will never leave this team as long as Reich is our coach. For me he is the least likable, most difficult Colt QB to root for since Schlichter.

He himself is not a winner. I’ve felt that way for awhile. However, I do believe you can win with him at QB. And they’ll have too. Not because him and Frank have bonded, but because the rest of the roster is too far along to upgrade the position. Are you going to waste Taylor, Leonard, Buckner, Nelson’s, etc primes shuffling through QBs? No. And Wentz is just capable enough that actually improving the position is not a given with any move that doesn’t gut the team and starts over.

I don’t like Wentz and I don’t trust Wentz. But I wanted the team to identify their guy, go get him, and then support him to try to win. They chose Wentz. Now they have to go get him another receiver that can create separation, build a D that doesn’t live just on turnovers, and continue working with him to improve. It’s what most of the league has dealt with while we have been spoiled. I don’t think Wentz is a winner, but I believe Ballard and Reich are. It’s their job to make this work. I’m optimistic.

Oldcolt 01-03-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 219098)
He himself is not a winner. I’ve felt that way for awhile. However, I do believe you can win with him at QB. And they’ll have too. Not because him and Frank have bonded, but because the rest of the roster is too far along to upgrade the position. Are you going to waste Taylor, Leonard, Buckner, Nelson’s, etc primes shuffling through QBs? No. And Wentz is just capable enough that actually improving the position is not a given with any move that doesn’t gut the team and starts over.

I don’t like Wentz and I don’t trust Wentz. But I wanted the team to identify their guy, go get him, and then support him to try to win. They chose Wentz. Now they have to go get him another receiver that can create separation, build a D that doesn’t live just on turnovers, and continue working with him to improve. It’s what most of the league has dealt with while we have been spoiled. I don’t think Wentz is a winner, but I believe Ballard and Reich are. It’s their job to make this work. I’m optimistic.

Agree with your whole post except the last sentence. Worse and inconsistent QB's have won the SB before, so it isn't impossible. I am not optimistic however.


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