Eagles asking price for Wentz is two #1 picks
 

Oh I’m stomping the brakes, put that idea right through the fucking windshield.

Yeah, screw that. I seriously doubt anyone will be giving up 2 number 1's for him.

I'd rather see Jacoby and Eason than pay that price. I'm old enough to remember QB purgatory. We're in it again.

This is old news.

The Eagles tried this asking price 3 days ago and there was discussion on this board about it at that time.

It was reported that whenever the Eagles made this demand, they were met with a dial tone from at least one of the teams. I would bet that team was the Colts.

The Eagles are trying to get the Bears and the Colts or any other team in a bidding war. Even if the bidding war is against themselves.

So do I, signing Wentz instantly makes the Colt's an 8-8 team !!

He's worth 2 number one picks...from my nose...or 4 #2 picks from...

Lolnope. On to the next one. Darnold? Trade up?

How many threads do we need on Wentz?

None

I read one possible trade proposal of wentz, tight end zack ertz and colts absorbing partial wentz cap hit for their 1st round pick. I could live with that trade.

Let him go to the Bears.

He seems completely emotionally broken. An emotional broken QB would fit in well with a team with a history of Trubisky, Cutler, and Grossman.

That would be something to consider.

If the Seahawks are willing to part with Russell Wilson, jump on that instead of a shit qb like Wentz.

That's a QB worth giving up 2 1s. If the Seahawks are dumb enough to trade him, grab him and run.

That sounds reasonable to me. I was not a fan of bringing Rivers to Indy for a $25M "golden parachute." I'd like to think Wentz has a few good seasons left in him. Need a QB who will be here at least three seasons or more.

I think the Colts could get both for less than that. Maybe 2 mid round picks. Seems like the market for Wentz is light and Ballard isn't one to overpay.

The latest rumor

It sounds better than two firsts.

There is a perception Philly is losing leverage, especially with teams like the Colts openly looking at Darnold.

It certainly is better than 2 firsts, but it's still way too much for Wentz and his contract.

Depends on if he can be fixed

If he can be fixed back to his 2017 level then he's worth 2 firsts. Realistically speaking though he had a huge drop off after his injury in '17 and his play has declined ever since to the point that he was terrible in '20. Couple that with his huge contract and IMHO he's worth a mid round pick at best, if not compensation to us to take his contract of the Eagles hands like the Osweiler to the Browns trade.

I don't think you understand his contract

He wasn’t bad last year. 27 tds, 7 ints, 93 rating.

Three out of his last four seasons have been top 15 QB in the league. The only season that wasn't was last season. Also, the "huge" contract you're talking about would barely pay him top 20 QB money over the next 2 years, after which the Colts could cut him with no cap repercussions. He's not worth a 1 right now, and the Eagles are selling low on him, but he's worth more than a 4. Getting him for a 4 would be nice, but he's worth more.

If the Eagles trade him before 3/19 then they'll have to eat the remaining ~$10M of his signing bonus, but he'll still count ~$31M, ~$28M, ~$33M, and $23M against the cap over the next 4 years with his contract as is. There is a potential out after '21 where the new team would have to eat ~$18M. Am I missing something?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadel...n-wentz-18950/

The $10 million roster bonus will travel with Wentz. The signing bonus and option bonus are the dead money the Eagles would eat to trade him. His cap hits as a Colt over the next 2 years would be $25.4 million and $22 million, respectively.

Ah. I thought the option bonuses traveled with him as well. Still $25M and $22M is a lot to pay someone who was one of, if not the worst starting QB in the league last year.

Also, the Eagles are surely desperate to trade him since they can't cut him ($59M in dead money) and certainly don't want $35M riding on the bench, which should lower the asking price as well.

Wait, Dam agrees with me, so I’m clearly wrong.

Forget Wentz.

I'm taking all these rumors with many, many grains of salt. Nobody seems to know what's going on with Wentz - remember a few days ago when he was on the cusp of being traded to the Bears for two 1s? I think much of thus stuff is coming from Philly in an effort to drum up interest or to fool one of the teams into overpaying. Jaworski is a former Eagles QB, after all.

Two 2nds is too much for Wentz. Remember, if the Eagles don't plan on starting him, he is a giant albatross on their future cap, so they need to unload him pronto. I continue to believe his fair value under the circumstances is a single late-round pick. Maybe a mid-round pick if the Colts really like him. The problem is the Eagles may have painted themselves into a corner and can't accept such a trade because it will make them lose face, and this has only been more difficult by what the Lions were able to extract from the Rams for Stafford.

Most are speculating that two 1sts nonsense was Howie Roseman trying to drive up the price.

See, I told you :D

Howie Roseman may have overplayed his hand.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...ding-wrong-way

"After trade talks sounded red-hot in early February, things cooled off last week and all sides "took a deep breath" to re-asses where talks stood."
They need a new editor.

Yeah he was trying to fleece everyone else. But honestly, what else could he have done? Stafford just went for two firsts. If he didn’t try to get something similar they would have vilified him in Philly. Only now after trying will the fans say just take what you can get.

Breer still thinks the Bears are the front runners:

https://nypost.com/2021/02/16/bears-...jor-roadblock/

The problem is that everybody knows everyone else in the NFL. If Wentz cant take hard coaching, he wont fit into the Colts concept of team success. Handing him big money early was a mistake, and the Colts need to stay away from Wentz

I think the chance Wentz works out isn’t very good but for him this is far and away his best opportunity. Stable situation without the pressure of if you don’t succeed heads will roll. I’m not sold on any of theses guys to be honest. They all have issues or they wouldn’t be available. Wentz seems as good as any

I tend to agree. I'm completely off the Wentz train. Still wouldn't mind making a run at Darnold.