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Thorgrim 01-21-2021 03:26 PM

Sirianni heading to Philly
 
https://www.espn.com/nfl/
Gonna need a new O.C.

smitty46953 01-21-2021 03:28 PM

Yep, looks like McVisor wasn't front runner after all ...


Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Eagles are hiring Colts' OC Nick Sirianni as their head coach, sources tell ESPN. Sirianni spent three seasons as a Chiefs' assistant coach, five seasons with the Chargers, and the past three with the Colts. Now the 39-year-old Sirianni becomes the lead man in Philadelphia.
1:59 PM · Jan 21, 2021·Twitter Web App

:cool:

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-21-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 184743)
Gonna need a new O.C.

Be interesting to see if Sirianni takes anyone from the Colts staff with him to Philly.

From Zak Keefer:

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1352338664207118336

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From what I've been told, don't be surprised if Marcus Brady is the Colts' next offensive coordinator.

Dam8610 01-21-2021 03:59 PM

They're probably not trading Wentz if they're hiring Reich's OC.

daedge 01-21-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 184750)
They're probably not trading Wentz if they're hiring Reich's OC.

Good. Don't want him.

Brylok 01-21-2021 04:11 PM

Thank you, Sirianni. Good luck. Just add it to the growing pile of work that Ballard will have to do this off season. The pile is getting pretty big to be honest...

Chaka 01-21-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 184750)
They're probably not trading Wentz if they're hiring Reich's OC.

Please explain.

Chaka 01-21-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 184752)
Thank you, Sirianni. Good luck. Just add it to the growing pile of work that Ballard will have to do this off season. The pile is getting pretty big to be honest...

Yep, though coordinators moving on is part of the offseason, and the number of interviews our guys have had thus far is a testament to the quality of the staff as a whole. We've only lost one so far.

apballin 01-21-2021 04:26 PM

Kinda surprised for a guy that didn’t even call plays

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-21-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 184759)
Kinda surprised for a guy that didn’t even call plays


FWIW - Reich didn't call the plays either when he was Philly's OC.

Chromeburn 01-21-2021 04:50 PM

Wow, slap in the face to McVisor. I like it. Too bad though bc I think Reich really liked having Sirianni. Funny how teams are trying to pick us apart and our record nor playoff record is all that great the last four years.

Puck 01-21-2021 04:56 PM

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/stat...025013249?s=20

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Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
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Colts QBs coach Marcus Brady is now well-positioned for a promotion to offensive coordinator in Indy. He's considered a rising star, was in the mix to be an OC in multiple other spots.

He was also the OC in the CFL so he does have experience. I think this is who it is going to be.

JAFF 01-21-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 184752)
Thank you, Sirianni. Good luck. Just add it to the growing pile of work that Ballard will have to do this off season. The pile is getting pretty big to be honest...

You don’t think Ballard has a list of people either on the team or on other teams he’d like to interview for the offensive coordinator job?

Dam8610 01-21-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 184753)
Please explain.

Wentz was a MVP candidate when Reich was in Philadelphia, and has seemingly declined since. The Eagles can't hire back Reich, so his OC is the next best thing.

Brylok 01-21-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184775)
You don’t think Ballard has a list of people either on the team or on other teams he’d like to interview for the offensive coordinator job?

I'm sure he does. Needing an offensive coordinator, QB, LT, Edge rusher, WR1, and shut down corner seems like a lot though. We're going to lose some free agents as well. It's only January, so I'll try to be optimistic.

rcubed 01-21-2021 08:04 PM

Per @mortreport the #Colts are promoting QB coach Marcus Brady to offensive coordinator

rcubed 01-21-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 184782)
Wentz was a MVP candidate when Reich was in Philadelphia, and has seemingly declined since. The Eagles can't hire back Reich, so his OC is the next best thing.

SI agrees with you

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/21/ea...t-carson-wentz

Chaka 01-21-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 184782)
Wentz was a MVP candidate when Reich was in Philadelphia, and has seemingly declined since. The Eagles can't hire back Reich, so his OC is the next best thing.

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 184794)

I don't know...seems like a bit of stretch to me. Just because Reich worked well with Wentz doesn't mean Sirianni will. The fact that Reich and Sirianni worked together might actually mean they have different/complementary skill sets. Anyway, maybe I'm overthinking this...

rcubed 01-21-2021 10:22 PM

Sirianni heading to Philly
 
^^^ FFS. He had to be competent enough to make them think he can be a head coach. Being from the same system that wentz did really well in was probably a huge plus for him.


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JAFF 01-22-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 184803)
I don't know..Anyway, maybe I'm overthinking this...

On a fan website, who would do that?

HoosierinFL 01-22-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 184803)
I don't know...seems like a bit of stretch to me. Just because Reich worked well with Wentz doesn't mean Sirianni will. The fact that Reich and Sirianni worked together might actually mean they have different/complementary skill sets. Anyway, maybe I'm overthinking this...

The idea is that it reveals what Philly might be thinking, not whether they are right in thinking it.

Chromeburn 01-22-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 184794)

I wish Sirrianni luck. Philly is a tough town, I'm afraid he signed up for a rebuilding job.

Chromeburn 01-22-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 184803)
I don't know...seems like a bit of stretch to me. Just because Reich worked well with Wentz doesn't mean Sirianni will. The fact that Reich and Sirianni worked together might actually mean they have different/complementary skill sets. Anyway, maybe I'm overthinking this...

I'm sure they will be different. But I am also sure Reich will give him some pointers and insight the other coaches wouldn't have. And just how to handle a talented but spirited employee. McDaniels was the only other OC and he has a rep for manipulation, half-truths, and mind games.

Chaka 01-22-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 184840)
I'm sure they will be different. But I am also sure Reich will give him some pointers and insight the other coaches wouldn't have. And just how to handle a talented but spirited employee. McDaniels was the only other OC and he has a rep for manipulation, half-truths, and mind games.

No question, but my curiosity was more about whether by hiring Sirianni the Eagles are more or less likely to keep Wentz. Dam suggested earlier that it increased the likelihood that they’ll keep Wentz, and I was just trying to understand why he thought this might be. The idea that Sirianni might have absorbed some of Reich's compatibility with Wentz didn't necessarily follow to me.

On a more practical level, if the Eagles want to move on from Wentz, this is probably the offseason to do it based upon the cap discussion we had in another thread. They’ll be locked into him for essentially two more years if they don’t get rid of him by early March this year, and for a team that is facing serious cap issues I can’t imagine they can afford to carry a $30M backup QB. So the issue is coming to a head immediately in Sirianni’s tenure, and since I doubt the Eagles will be contending next year it might be a better strategy to focus on developing Hurt at this point.

Either way, I'm just curious more than anything. I wouldn't hate it if we traded for Wentz so long as we didn't give up the farm to do so, but I won't lose any sleep if we don't since there appear to be several other options available.

Chromeburn 01-24-2021 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 184848)
No question, but my curiosity was more about whether by hiring Sirianni the Eagles are more or less likely to keep Wentz. Dam suggested earlier that it increased the likelihood that they’ll keep Wentz, and I was just trying to understand why he thought this might be. The idea that Sirianni might have absorbed some of Reich's compatibility with Wentz didn't necessarily follow to me.

On a more practical level, if the Eagles want to move on from Wentz, this is probably the offseason to do it based upon the cap discussion we had in another thread. They’ll be locked into him for essentially two more years if they don’t get rid of him by early March this year, and for a team that is facing serious cap issues I can’t imagine they can afford to carry a $30M backup QB. So the issue is coming to a head immediately in Sirianni’s tenure, and since I doubt the Eagles will be contending next year it might be a better strategy to focus on developing Hurt at this point.

Either way, I'm just curious more than anything. I wouldn't hate it if we traded for Wentz so long as we didn't give up the farm to do so, but I won't lose any sleep if we don't since there appear to be several other options available.

My guess is the owner has a lot invested in Wentz and it was easier to get rid of pederson. He couldn’t get Reich so he got the closest thing he could. Kinda like if you know Mcvey you get a coaching interview. I bet they keep him.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-24-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 184745)
Be interesting to see if Sirianni takes anyone from the Colts staff with him to Philly.


The Gannon to Philly rumors started once Sirianni was named head coach. It is finally official. Sirianni is also hiring Kevin Patullo as Philly's passing game coordinator.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1353349185207197697

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The Eagles have agreed to terms with Colts DBs coach Jonathan Gannon to be their new defensive coordinator, per me and Tom Pelissero. A coveted candidate lands in Philly for Nick Sirianni.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...54007536955395

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The Eagles also agreed to terms with Colts assistant Kevin Patullo as their offensive pass game coordinator, per source. Nick Sirianni bringing along some familiar faces to Philly.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-27-2021 04:39 PM

Sirianni has added another Colt coach to his staff in Philly:


https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...25399838035971

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The Eagles are hiring Jason Michael as their tight ends coach, source said. Michael — the former Titans OC — coached TEs the past two seasons with the Colts. Another Nick Sirianni connection.

Chromeburn 01-27-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 185413)
Sirianni has added another Colt coach to his staff in Philly:


https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...25399838035971

It’s also allowing Brady to bring in guys he would like as well.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-27-2021 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185420)
It’s also allowing Brady to bring in guys he would like as well.


Considering that two of these are lateral movements, I would guess that Reich and Sirianni had a discussion about this topic.

A little staff turnover is not a bad thing - it allows to get a few new voices in the room.

It also may allow Reich to bring in a few guys that weren't available when Reich was originally constructing his staff. He had reportedly wanted Milanovich on his staff but he wasn't available a few years ago.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-29-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 185016)
Sirianni is also hiring Kevin Patullo as Philly's passing game coordinator.

I guess the Colts and Philly are swapping passing game coordinators. Sirianni hired ex-Colt coach Kevin Patullo as Philly's new passing game coordinator.

According to Al Breer, ex-Eagle passing game coordinator Press Taylor will help fill the void on the Colts coaching staff.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/stat...59718739107840

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Sources: Ex-Eagles pass-game coordinator Press Taylor is expected to join Colts coach Frank Reich's staff. Indy lost Nick Sirianni and Kevin Patullo this month, and Taylor will help to fill the gaps.

Reich and Taylor worked together in Philly.

JAFF 01-29-2021 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 184839)
I wish Sirrianni luck. Philly is a tough town, I'm afraid he signed up for a rebuilding job.

Philly fans are brutal, what a bunch of a holes

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 185632)
Philly fans are brutal, what a bunch of a holes

Are we just trading staffs with Philly basically?

apballin 01-30-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185688)
Are we just trading staffs with Philly basically?

Pretty much, just waiting on Reich to hire pederson

rcubed 01-30-2021 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185688)
Are we just trading staffs with Philly basically?


Not good for us.


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