Rivers!
 

Rivers is garbage. We aren't going anywhere anyways with him, might as well play Eason and see if he is any good. I have always despised Rivers and nothing this year has changed my mind. Fuck him and the horse he rode in with.

They're not benching Rivers this year unless things go very poorly for the rest of the year. That said, especially the way the defense has turned out, I really wish the Colts had beat the Panthers 3/60 offer for Teddy Bridgewater. The Colts would be a Super Bowl contender with even average QB play, and Bridgewater is providing at least that.

Yes, Bridgewater made sense :cool:

Bridgewater would have been a larger time commitment. I think they were just looking for a short vet stopgap till they find a young passer to build around. They are scouting the QBs for the next draft also and I think it was Dodds who went to look at the NDS QB last week.

Rivers absolutely sucks & is washed up but Eason not close to being NFL ready. He’s a long term project.

...but may give us a better draft slot


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Is that where we are now. Say f-it to the season and play the rookie?

Rivers is the starter and will start AT LEAST the next game. However, if he has another game like this past one, I'd like to see someone else under center.l

Who? There's no one on the team thats better!

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In my rat's ass of an opinion, a 38 year-old Philip Rivers on a bad day is still probably still a little bit better than a 27 year-old Jacoby Brissett is on a good one.

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A few fan on twitter are already calling for Jacoby. I’m sure that number will go up if Rivers continues. And then I’m sure a few more would prefer to throw the rookie to the wolves.

Things also being said:
Trade for Dwayne Haskins
Trade for Sam Darnold
Think Peyton would come out of retirement?

It's not that JB is better, but perhaps he can be more effective and turn the ball over less. Let's not forget the margin of victory was exactly the 9 points given the Browns by Rivers' mistakes. And, they were bad mistakes.

All I'm saying is if he has another game like that, it should be his last.

Brissett, Haskins and Darnold all suck. No use wasting time on those guys. Might as well draft a guy that you actually want after just playing this season out instead of wasting draft picks and another year or two of mediocrity bringing in either Haskins or Darnold.

Rivers!
 

Exactly. None of those guys are going to be long-term solutions for us. Maybe it’s Eason. Rivers was always going to be a 1 to 2 year stopgap and I don’t think anyone really expected him to take us to the Super Bowl. I don’t want to go trading away draft picks for another mediocre quarterback.


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Keep in mind Rivers is exactly 5 games into his Colts career, with all new teammates.

People have to stop viewing the offense in a vacuum. Can Rivers play better, yes, but so can the O-Line, the RB's, the TE's and WR's.

These guys have probably had a 3rd of the reps (pre-pandemic) that that would have had entering a season at this point. For a new QB, playing with new teammates that's important.

Those who want Brissett are asinine. Two throws from this game that Brissett doesn't even attempt are the throws to Johnson and Dulin. In fact he probably takes a sack.

No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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I would rather play Eason. Jacoby is not the future, and he isn’t the present. I would rather ride with Rivers or see what we have in the rookie.

I thought you weren’t going to watch football because black people

Not to mention Campbell, Pittman, and Burton have all missed extended time in a year that had no training camp or preseason.

We’re probably lucky he hasn’t been worse.

He will stay the starter unless he gets hurt.

We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

Maybe Luck will unretire. Probably not, but it's certainly not out of the question. And don't tell me you wouldn't forgive him, because you would.

The Colts don't get Buckner if Luck doesn't retire. Maybe you can have the best of both worlds and he'll come back (unlikely), but Luck would've taken last year's team to the playoffs and would have this team in strong Super Bowl contention.

Hopefully there's another Russell Wilson out there.
For context, Russell Wilson was my #2 QB in 2012, and until they cut Peyton, there was a scenario I'd hoped for in vain where some team gave up a king's ransom for the #1 overall pick, the Colts finally built a defense for Peyton Manning, and drafted Wilson at the top of Round 2 or 3. With the benefit of hindsight, this obviously would've been the best choice. Maybe Trey Lance is that guy, but I don't have the confidence in him that I had in Wilson just watching film. He seems like more of a scrambler than a pocket QB with great speed and athleticism, which was how Wilson looked on film. Then again, that is the direction the NFL is moving in, so maybe that is to his benefit.

If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!

I’m still an Andrew Luck fan but he most certainly f****d the franchise hard.

So, for 25 million dollars for one season, what did you expect?

Yes, but staring down receivers is rookie level mistakes that shouldn't be happening in year 50 of a QB's career, no matter the system, or new players. Don't fucking do that.

Yep. This organization doesn’t have a tank mentality and we are good enough not to get a top pick. Thus they will and should play the best QB option, which is rivers this year. Unfortunately that will most likely mean we will be in the middle of the pack again. Worst place to draft


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Pretty much what we got. Rivers has always played this way, good enough to get excited but often a let down in the end. Living in southern california I have seen enough chargers games to expect that. Not sure what the money has to do with it.


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The money? I'm thinking you should get what you paid for. Rivers is getting top 5 QB money, and the only thing he's in the top 5 for QBs is INTs. I didn't expect that he was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, but in that last game, he looked done. Another performance like that and it becomes the norm and not just a bad game.

Perhaps if he came in like Superman and got us to the playoffs consistently. But even if I forgave him, I'd never trust him again. It doesn't matter anyway since he's not coming back.

Really, black people? I never said that.

Russell Wilson is so good. MVP right now for me anyway. He would have been destroyed behind that o-line back then, but if it had been fixed, yeah I'd much rather have had him than Luck. So would everyone else probably though in hindsight. I'm just dreading the QB abyss. Depressing. Rage-inducing whenever I think back to August 2019.

In hindsight of course. But if Luck was healthy and still playing he was on a historic pace himself and I think he would be considered just as good.

$25 million per year is not Top 5 QB money in today's NFL. Mahomes just signed a half a billion dollar contract that comes in at slightly more than $40 million AAV and Watson just signed a 4 year deal at $40 million AAV. To me, that puts the floor of Top 5 at $35 million AAV, so 1 year at $25 million should buy something like Rivers, a guy on the downswing of his career that could provide a top 10 QB season or could flame out badly.

With the benefit of hindsight, it's a very easy call to make. It's probably better in the end that the Colts didn't get all that draft capital from trading the #1 pick, Grigson likely would've squandered it.

I'm going strictly by salary in the current year and not by what a contract breaks down to if divided by the number of years in it. Those contracts get back loaded. Here's a quick break down of salaries only for the 2020 season.

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/

I realize that some contracts got signed after this was originally posted, but Rivers is certainly not worth 25 million dollars.

Rivers!
 

Top 5 QBs have big bonuses and long term contracts. Rivers has a 1 year deal to stop gap us, not a fair comparison.


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When he signed up, I think that the assumption was that you were handing Rivers a great OL, a top 5 running attack, one elite WR and two others with high upside.

On Sunday, he didn't have any of those things. On Sunday, he had Leraven Clark, who was doing his best imitation of a turnstile; a RB who's having a hard time exploiting holes; a TY Hilton who's a shadow of his old self; and a WR corps behind him made up of, mostly, scrubs.

In addition, Jack Doyle, somehow seems to have aged badly.

That doesn't excuse the interceptions or the safety. But, going into 2020, any reasonable fan had to know that you weren't getting Rivers at his 25 year old best. You were getting a game manager who wasn't afraid to take chances.

That having been said, you can't really be surprised by what happened against the Browns.

Okay, how about this. The Colts could have signed Bridgewater, Dalton AND Cam Newton and still had 7 million to sign some OL depth.

I really have no problem with paying good money for a quality player, but before I lay down money on a car with a solid history, but I'd still want to test drive it and be sure it still was a great car. Otherwise, I think I make a much lower counter offer. When Rivers signed for 25 million, I was convinced that the buyers were sure of him. I'm not convinced of that any longer, are you?

River's is not getting top 5 QB money. In average salary per season, his $25 million ranks 17th.