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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 05-04-2020 03:21 PM

Colts are declining Malik Hooker's option
 
I am a little surprised. The fifth year option didn't carry a huge price tag - it was about $6.7MM. He has had more than his fair share of injuries, however.


https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...87346246369284

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Colts are declining the fifth-year option of safety Malik Hooker, per source.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1257393623404027905

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Colts declining Malik Hooker's fifth-year option, as JFowlerESPN reported.

Doesn't mean he won't be here longterm, but a curious decision. Big season coming for him in 2020.

I go back to what GM Chris Ballard said in January: "Malik was solid. Wouldn't say he was great."

rcubed 05-04-2020 03:33 PM

Interesting


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Chaka 05-04-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 160697)
I am a little surprised. The fifth year option didn't carry a huge price tag - it was about $6.7MM. He has had more than his fair share of injuries, however.


https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...87346246369284

I had a feeling this was coming when the Colts lingered so long on the decision. Pagano's Ed Reed comparisons have simply not panned out so far. Nevertheless, the move saddens me a bit, but I think you're absolutely right that his injury history played a big role in this decision. We still have him for a year, so Hooker needs to go out and have a great season and prove the Colts wrong.

Dam8610 05-04-2020 03:45 PM

Looks like about half of the league declined the 5th year option for their 2017 first round picks.

apballin 05-04-2020 04:10 PM

Not sure what this means honestly

Coltsalr 05-04-2020 04:22 PM

He’s never played a really prominent role in Eberflus’ system.

That could be because he’s a bad scheme fit or it could be that he’s never entirely recovered from his ACL injury, I don’t know.

While I generally do like the Eberflus scheme, if you can’t find space for a ballhawk with the range that Hooker does then I think your system needs tinkering.

YDFL Commish 05-04-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 160707)
Not sure what this means honestly

It means that it's highly unlikely that he will be with the Colts in 2021.

Blackmon was drafted to replace him.

He doesn't offer much in run support, although the coaching staff did seem to coax a little better effort last season and he hasn't been the ball hawk everyone was expecting.

Brylok 05-04-2020 06:02 PM

I have nothing bad to say about Hooker. Ed Reed he was not, but he never really stood out because of bad plays or mistakes. He was just kinda there and did more good than bad. IF they play this year, he should be motivated to stay on the field and ball out so he can get a good contract elsewhere.

Hoopsdoc 05-04-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 160707)
Not sure what this means honestly

It means he’ll probably be traded to the Jets.

JAFF 05-05-2020 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 160713)
He’s never played a really prominent role in Eberflus’ system.

That could be because he’s a bad scheme fit or it could be that he’s never entirely recovered from his ACL injury, I don’t know.

While I generally do like the Eberflus scheme, if you can’t find space for a ballhawk with the range that Hooker does then I think your system needs tinkering.

He hasnt played 16 games in a season. He’s had a total of 7 ints in his career. I wouldnt call him a ball hawk

apballin 05-05-2020 01:26 PM

Other than the pick game 1 last year vs Rivers I can’t recall any of his picks being a great read react break on the ball where the qb had no chance. Most of his picks are deflected or overthrown

Chromeburn 05-05-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 160769)
Other than the pick game 1 last year vs Rivers I can’t recall any of his picks being a great read react break on the ball where the qb had no chance. Most of his picks are deflected or overthrown

Better pass rush might help with that. I feel like our secondary doesnt get a lot of errant balls thrown up. QBs never seem rushed and have time to throw resulting in high completion percentages. Rush creates passing errors but we havent had a ton of pass rush last couple years.

WEEKEND WARRIOR 05-05-2020 06:49 PM

I was at the game when he tore his ACL, always had high hopes for him to be a "intercepter" btw that game was the one where Jacksonville sacked Brissett 10 times , brutal to watch in person !!

omahacolt 05-06-2020 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 160713)
He’s never played a really prominent role in Eberflus’ system.

That could be because he’s a bad scheme fit or it could be that he’s never entirely recovered from his ACL injury, I don’t know.

While I generally do like the Eberflus scheme, if you can’t find space for a ballhawk with the range that Hooker does then I think your system needs tinkering.

How is a “ballhawk” a bad fit in any scheme? We don’t just sit back there in cover 2. There are many single man looks

JAFF 05-06-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 160793)
Better pass rush might help with that. I feel like our secondary doesnt get a lot of errant balls thrown up. QBs never seem rushed and have time to throw resulting in high completion percentages. Rush creates passing errors but we havent had a ton of pass rush last couple years.


Thats probably why they spent the money on Bruckner?

Oldcolt 05-06-2020 04:36 PM

I think Ballard wants greatness out of Hooker. I believe he is sending a message that Hooker will either get or not. I don't think there is a decision yet on whether he stays or not. It is all up to what he does this season.

apballin 05-06-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 160793)
Better pass rush might help with that. I feel like our secondary doesnt get a lot of errant balls thrown up. QBs never seem rushed and have time to throw resulting in high completion percentages. Rush creates passing errors but we havent had a ton of pass rush last couple years.

So basically we need the D line he had at Ohio State

1965southpaw 05-06-2020 05:21 PM

In other words.....Irsay doesn't pay Hooker. :D

smitty46953 05-06-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 160861)
In other words.....Irsay doesn't pay Hooker. :D

Your Jersey could take on a whole new meaning ? :eek:

HoosierinFL 05-07-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 160848)
I think Ballard wants greatness out of Hooker. I believe he is sending a message that Hooker will either get or not. I don't think there is a decision yet on whether he stays or not. It is all up to what he does this season.

This is close. He hasn't seen what he wanted Hooker to be, so now it's "this is your contract year, will you play like it?"

But at the same time, I do recall that Ballard doesn't like guys that only show up in contract years, so I suspect that whether Hooker plays lights out this year or not, he's unlikely to be back in 2021. So this is just a way of coaxing one good season out of him.

Oldcolt 05-07-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 160901)
This is close. He hasn't seen what he wanted Hooker to be, so now it's "this is your contract year, will you play like it?"

But at the same time, I do recall that Ballard doesn't like guys that only show up in contract years, so I suspect that whether Hooker plays lights out this year or not, he's unlikely to be back in 2021. So this is just a way of coaxing one good season out of him.

You may have nailed it. Hooker has a great season, signs a huge contract and Ballard gets him a third round draft choice. He loves them draft choices. I do like that Ballard won't settle for average

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-19-2020 05:26 PM

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1296111200535826432

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Colts safety Malik Hooker on the team's decision not to pick up his fifth-year option this summer: "A motivation call for me — I gotta go out and prove myself this year."
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1296112082094563328

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Malik Hooker says the plan is to have a great year, get a longterm deal and stay in Indianapolis. He wants more consistency + to create more turnovers.

Adds that this is the first offseason in his NFL career he hasn't been rehabbing an injury.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...11798966509569

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Hooker: "Obviously, I want to be here. I love Indianapolis."
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...11559152996352

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Malik Hooker said he had a stretch of 7-8 games where he played well last season, then a stretch where he was just OK.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...12253188669441

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Hooker says he'd give himself a B-plus last year. Played more in the box than he had before, had a few picks in the back end, but he knows he has to put all of that together.

Oldcolt 08-20-2020 09:38 AM

He is talking the talk. That's good

omahacolt 08-21-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 166292)
He is talking the talk. That's good

I have a feeling he will be walking the walk.........to a different team


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