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HoosierinFL 09-07-2019 08:01 PM

AB cut by Raiders, signed immediately by Pats
 
Obligatory wrong forum.

This was clearly some collusion. Cheaters back at it.

Racehorse 09-07-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 130017)
Obligatory wrong forum.

This was clearly some collusion. Cheaters back at it.

Has to be, but Goodell won't do a thing

Racehorse 09-07-2019 08:19 PM

According to overthecap, they only had $9M to spend. How did they get $15M for Brown?

YDFL Commish 09-07-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 130019)
According to overthecap, they only had $9M to spend. How did they get $15M for Brown?

It's not all guaranteed?

Dam8610 09-07-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 130021)
It's not all guaranteed?

That doesn't matter. If it's a $15 million cap but they have to have the cap room.

Brylok 09-07-2019 10:17 PM

Way to go, NFL. I haven't watched a Super Bowl with the Patriots in it for a couple of years now. Looks like that trend will continue. Pure collusion.

albany ed 09-07-2019 10:20 PM

Not collusion, but it sucks. If I were someone who wanted money AND success, I'm signing with this team too. I hate the MFers, but as long as they have BB,they're the best.

rcubed 09-07-2019 11:05 PM

Saw this coming for a week.


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Mr. Session 09-08-2019 04:12 AM

Doesn't really mean anything to me at all that New England picked him up. They're winners, They're in a prime window, They run a scheme that is horrifically perfect for his skill set. It makes sense.

What I am, is dumbfounded at how incompetent the Raiders look in all of this. There was literally no return on this investment.

Racehorse 09-08-2019 08:39 AM

Odd how this didn't happen until Chung got arrested. Kind of like the NFL decided that their darlings couldn't win it all this year with that loss, so they conjured up this scenario, all WWE style. The league is a joke right now. Goodell needs to go!

ChoppedWood 09-08-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 130052)
Odd how this didn't happen until Chung got arrested. Kind of like the NFL decided that their darlings couldn't win it all this year with that loss, so they conjured up this scenario, all WWE style. The league is a joke right now. Goodell needs to go!

A-FUCKING men! It really is, it is damn near WWE as you say, it really is. GODell is a fucking joke.

I know this is not really the right way to be- but oh well, I fucking hope somewhere out there is a fucking renegade safety on a team that has no chance that sees this punk ass basically not have to go through camp, manipulates his way off a bad team onto a champ team- and says F-it, I'm taking him out and just wrecks what little brain cells remain in inside the clearly BurFUCKED cranium of his.

Hoopsdoc 09-08-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 130033)
Saw this coming for a week.


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Literally EVERYONE saw this coming.

Brown will be a model citizen in NE.

IndyNorm 09-08-2019 09:50 AM

No doubt. This sucks. Only hope is that AB continues to act like a dumb fuck and/or the OL wasn't fixed and Tommy Boy gets the shit beat out of him on a regular basis.

DrSpaceman 09-08-2019 10:35 AM

Just another reason to hate the patriots.

Added to the long list.

rcubed 09-08-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 130065)
Literally EVERYONE saw this coming.



Brown will be a model citizen in NE.



Yep, he will have no issues with big numbers. I am more annoyed how we will have to hear how genius BB and the organization is than seeing them win. The patriot way!!!


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smitty46953 09-08-2019 11:26 AM

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Antonio Brown sought advice from social media consultants to "accelerate" his release from the Raiders.

That would explain some of Brown's more outlandish maneuvers in the past week, including an Instagram story criticizing the Raiders for fining him (which later led to a heated confrontation with GM Mike Mayock) and a YouTube clip leaking a recorded (presumably private) conversation with coach Jon Gruden. Brown's acts of self-sabotage worked exactly as intended, drawing the Raiders' ire and eventually freeing him to align with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in New England. The Patriots offered a first-rounder for Brown earlier this offseason but the Steelers weren't keen to trade him to a conference rival. Turns out, he found his way to Foxboro anyway. The Evil Empire strikes again.

Source: NFL on ESPN on Twitter

:cool:

Collusion I think so :eek:

ChoppedWood 09-08-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 130087)
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Antonio Brown sought advice from social media consultants to "accelerate" his release from the Raiders.

That would explain some of Brown's more outlandish maneuvers in the past week, including an Instagram story criticizing the Raiders for fining him (which later led to a heated confrontation with GM Mike Mayock) and a YouTube clip leaking a recorded (presumably private) conversation with coach Jon Gruden. Brown's acts of self-sabotage worked exactly as intended, drawing the Raiders' ire and eventually freeing him to align with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in New England. The Patriots offered a first-rounder for Brown earlier this offseason but the Steelers weren't keen to trade him to a conference rival. Turns out, he found his way to Foxboro anyway. The Evil Empire strikes again.

Source: NFL on ESPN on Twitter

:cool:

Collusion I think so :eek:

This just in:
Roger GODell has issued a record fine to the Pittsburg Steelers for not helping Robert Kraft obtain Antonio Brown in March. The memorandum issued by the NFL front office discloses that in March Robert Kraft was willing to offer free lifetime sex slave services for every member of the Steelers organization in exchange for Brown. Roger believes that was a more than equitable offer and it was collusion on the part of the Steelers to damage the Patriots chances at stealing another Super Bowl and in turn it would hurt Roger's ability to get approximately $500MM in side money from his good friend Mr. Kraft for assuring the fucking cheatenest as bitch mofo's ever got another title.

Fuck the NFL!

Butter 09-08-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 130087)
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Antonio Brown sought advice from social media consultants to "accelerate" his release from the Raiders.

That would explain some of Brown's more outlandish maneuvers in the past week, including an Instagram story criticizing the Raiders for fining him (which later led to a heated confrontation with GM Mike Mayock) and a YouTube clip leaking a recorded (presumably private) conversation with coach Jon Gruden. Brown's acts of self-sabotage worked exactly as intended, drawing the Raiders' ire and eventually freeing him to align with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in New England. The Patriots offered a first-rounder for Brown earlier this offseason but the Steelers weren't keen to trade him to a conference rival. Turns out, he found his way to Foxboro anyway. The Evil Empire strikes again.

Source: NFL on ESPN on Twitter

:cool:

Collusion I think so :eek:

If this is true the league should suspended Brown for a very long time, that is incredibly detrimental to the league.

albany ed 09-08-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 130091)
If this is true the league should suspended Brown for a very long time, that is incredibly detrimental to the league.

Don't know if you can suspend him for this, but it will become a pattern for talented players on shitty teams. And, it will be the beginning of the end for at least 10 NFL franchises.

Chromeburn 09-09-2019 10:15 AM

So people are saying this is the most talented pats team in a long time and they are going undefeated. Just throwing that out there so everyone can throw up in their mouth a little.

rcubed 09-09-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 130091)
If this is true the league should suspended Brown for a very long time, that is incredibly detrimental to the league.

probably too hard to prove

Chromeburn 09-09-2019 01:20 PM

I don't think it is an act, I really do think the guy is off. We will see how he does. AB likes to freelance in how routes and going to meetings and other stuff seems optional. So we will see. Do they make exceptions for his behavior, then they say the rules only apply to certain guys. Who knows. Gordan is known for freelancing routes and he did ok yesterday. See if Brady likes it after a couple turnovers happen from their behavior.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-09-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 130019)
According to overthecap, they only had $9M to spend. How did they get $15M for Brown?


Cap magic.

The contract for Brown is 1 year with a team option for a second year. They can spread the signing bonus over both years.

They may also need to restructure one or two of their current player contracts. The Cheats had verbally agreed to terms with Brown on Saturday but nothing had been officially signed. That occurs today and they will need to rework any other contracts today.


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...71416378318848

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Patriots added an option year for Antonio Brown in 2020 at $20 million which becomes guaranteed if executed, per source. It was done to help for cap proration purposes this season.

nate505 09-09-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 130087)
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Antonio Brown sought advice from social media consultants to "accelerate" his release from the Raiders.

That would explain some of Brown's more outlandish maneuvers in the past week, including an Instagram story criticizing the Raiders for fining him (which later led to a heated confrontation with GM Mike Mayock) and a YouTube clip leaking a recorded (presumably private) conversation with coach Jon Gruden. Brown's acts of self-sabotage worked exactly as intended, drawing the Raiders' ire and eventually freeing him to align with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in New England. The Patriots offered a first-rounder for Brown earlier this offseason but the Steelers weren't keen to trade him to a conference rival. Turns out, he found his way to Foxboro anyway. The Evil Empire strikes again.

Source: NFL on ESPN on Twitter

:cool:

Collusion I think so :eek:

Of course the dumb fuck Raiders took the bait.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-10-2019 08:56 PM

New day, new headline involving AB.

He is accused of sexually assaulting and raping his former trainer. A lawsuit was filed in court today in Florida.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/s...-patriots.html

ChoppedWood 09-10-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 130911)
New day, new headline involving AB.

He is accused of sexually assaulting and raping his former trainer. A lawsuit was filed in court today in Florida.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/s...-patriots.html

I hope Tom has his panties with the DNA to prove it was AB, hell hath no fury like a Brady scorned...

Pez 09-11-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 130911)
New day, new headline involving AB.

He is accused of sexually assaulting and raping his former trainer. A lawsuit was filed in court today in Florida.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/s...-patriots.html

What a fucking shit show. I wonder if this jeopardizes the under the table money that Kraft is giving him to sign for $15M a year.

ChoppedWood 09-11-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 130945)
What a fucking shit show. I wonder if this jeopardizes the under the table money that Kraft is giving him to sign for $15M a year.

Jeopardizes? This is Bob the sext trafficking king-pin Kraft you are talking about. AB probably just got a 50% raise. I wonder if Bob and AB have shared lists of women where they have nutted on their back to see if there is any cross-over, excluding Tom of course since that is a given.

Hoopsdoc 09-11-2019 01:01 PM

So, the owner dabbles in sex trafficking, the quarterback tongues his own son, the wide receiver is a rapist and the starting safety is a drug dealer. On the only NFL franchise to ever employ a serial killer.

The New England Patriots, ladies and gentlemen.

By the way, Brown will practice this week and will play on Sunday unless the NFL suspends him. The Patriots sure as hell won’t. They only care about winning.

ChoppedWood 09-11-2019 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 130990)
So, the owner dabbles in sex trafficking, the quarterback tongues his own son, the wide receiver is a rapist and the starting safety is a drug dealer. On the only NFL franchise to ever employ a serial killer.

The New England Patriots, ladies and gentlemen.

By the way, Brown will practice this week and will play on Sunday unless the NFL suspends him. The Patriots sure as hell won’t. They only care about winning.

Hey hey hey now, before you go casting aspersions just remember- there is only like 1 or 2, certainly no more than 5, bad ass players a year that get popped for PED's, and just because they go elsewhere and pretty much suck, that has nothing to do with anything...

Let's cut them some slack!

ChoppedWood 09-12-2019 08:35 AM

On a positive note it does seem there is some groundswell among the media types that the entire Cheats organization needs to be scrutinized, that the Belicheat "Patriots Way" meaning win at all costs, is doing damage to the league- and it absolutely is.

GODell needs to fucking put him on the exempt list NOW, quit being a Kraft stooge and do what is right you servile prick.

Chromeburn 09-12-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 131087)
On a positive note it does seem there is some groundswell among the media types that the entire Cheats organization needs to be scrutinized, that the Belicheat "Patriots Way" meaning win at all costs, is doing damage to the league- and it absolutely is.

GODell needs to fucking put him on the exempt list NOW, quit being a Kraft stooge and do what is right you servile prick.

Kraft used to love Goddell but they don't get along anymore after all the cheats cheats recently. I think the inflategate caused some bad blood. I think Goddell is sick of them bending the rules all the time. the pats only care about their team and their winning, but Goddell has to worry about the whole league and public perception.

rcubed 09-12-2019 02:56 PM

AB cut by Raiders, signed immediately by Pats
 
And nothing is going to happen...


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Hoopsdoc 09-13-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 131143)
And nothing is going to happen...


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What did you expect?

The league is stuck in a bad spot here. They’ve never before suspended someone for having a civil suit brought against them, even if it is for rape. The NFLPA would throw a fit. Yet, they’re taking a PR beating by doing nothing.

The patriots are shitheels who just flat don’t care. They could have AB on tape raping a 9 year old boy and they’d still play him. Everyone knows that. They couldn’t care less.

And here we are. I fully expect him to play full time going forward. Nothings going to come of this.

rcubed 09-13-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 131235)
What did you expect?

The league is stuck in a bad spot here. They’ve never before suspended someone for having a civil suit brought against them, even if it is for rape. The NFLPA would throw a fit. Yet, they’re taking a PR beating by doing nothing.

The patriots are shitheels who just flat don’t care. They could have AB on tape raping a 9 year old boy and they’d still play him. Everyone knows that. They couldn’t care less.

And here we are. I fully expect him to play full time going forward. Nothings going to come of this.

actually that is what I expected.

I dont think AB should be suspended or put on the exempt list yet. There is an accusation in civil court. It's serious and I dont make light of it, but I dont think the NFL should take action yet. At some point in the future probably but its too early, imo.

As for the Pats, I am sure everyone is tired of them but what can they do? It's probably really hard to prove tampering if they illegally talked to AB or his agent while he was a raider. I think its really up to the owners to collectively pressure kraft behind the scenes to stop playing in the grey areas or out right cheating. but again, nothing will really come of it....

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-13-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 131143)
And nothing is going to happen...


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Yep - at least it appears he will play this week vs. Miami according to Schefter:


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...18954717319169


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At this point, NFL will not place Antonio Brown on commissioner exempt list, as there is no criminal investigation, making him eligible to play Sunday vs. Miami, per sources. NFL has opened its investigation, which will include interviews with Antonio Brown and his accuser.

albany ed 09-13-2019 12:30 PM

When will Gronk return? Unless Brady goes down, this could be that undefeated season they blew the last time.

Hoopsdoc 09-13-2019 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 131260)
actually that is what I expected.

I dont think AB should be suspended or put on the exempt list yet. There is an accusation in civil court. It's serious and I dont make light of it, but I dont think the NFL should take action yet. At some point in the future probably but its too early, imo.

As for the Pats, I am sure everyone is tired of them but what can they do? It's probably really hard to prove tampering if they illegally talked to AB or his agent while he was a raider. I think its really up to the owners to collectively pressure kraft behind the scenes to stop playing in the grey areas or out right cheating. but again, nothing will really come of it....

Uhh, THEY could suspend him like Kansas City did Tyreek Hill. Remember, there was no criminal OR civil case in that matter. He was caught on tape making derogatory statements. That’s it. The investigation started only after he was suspended.

And they still got raked over the coals for not releasing him. Why New England isn’t getting the same treatment is a great question.

Hoopsdoc 09-13-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 131260)
actually that is what I expected.

I dont think AB should be suspended or put on the exempt list yet. There is an accusation in civil court. It's serious and I dont make light of it, but I dont think the NFL should take action yet. At some point in the future probably but its too early, imo.

As for the Pats, I am sure everyone is tired of them but what can they do? It's probably really hard to prove tampering if they illegally talked to AB or his agent while he was a raider. I think its really up to the owners to collectively pressure kraft behind the scenes to stop playing in the grey areas or out right cheating. but again, nothing will really come of it....

Ezekiel Elliott was also suspended despite facing no criminal or civil proceedings. The NFL could absolutely suspend Antonio Brown. And you could make the argument that they should. He’s facing a FEDERAL civil suit. Those don’t make it out of discovery without some SIGNIFICANT evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the party being sued.

The NFL and the Patriots could end up looking really bad here. For its part, the league only cares about image. The Patriots don’t care AT ALL. They know their knuckle dragging fans will support them no matter what they do.

HoosierinFL 09-14-2019 09:04 AM

The Pats are the most corrupt organization in the nfl. Kraft is garbage with the whole human trafficking thing. And it’s no wonder he and BB and Brady are Trumpers. They’re all corrupt pieces of shit.


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