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Puck 01-20-2021 05:41 PM

Who do want Ballard to go after in a trade, FA or draft? QB ONLY thread
 
I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

Colts And Orioles 01-20-2021 06:34 PM

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After seeing what a 39 year-old Philip Rivers was able to do with this team, I wouldn't mind seeing Stafford or Wentz in 2021.

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Dam8610 01-20-2021 06:38 PM

If Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency, he'd be worth a look, but I doubt he will. Stafford or Wentz would require a trade, Ryan might. If they're willing to invest the 21st pick in a QB, I'd go for Mac Jones and bring in a journeyman as competition. I think Jones is the most NFL ready in this draft, though.

Maniac 01-20-2021 07:12 PM

Stafford or Ryan via trade

Chromeburn 01-20-2021 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184652)
I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

I wouldn't mind his receiver.

PowayColt 01-20-2021 07:28 PM

I would want Stafford. Wentz gets hurt a lot and couldn't even stay first string on a bad Eagles team.

Mr. Session 01-20-2021 07:38 PM

Stafford or Ryan.

No on Wentz. He's made of glass and I have character concerns.

nate505 01-20-2021 07:57 PM

I'm also on the get a vet like Stafford train. That said, if they could trade up to get Trey Lance and not give up the world for him, I'd be all in.

Racehorse 01-20-2021 07:59 PM

Stafford, or draft a good QB

TheMugwump 01-20-2021 08:29 PM

1 - Darnold
2 - Stafford
3 - Mac Jones



527 - Wentz

apballin 01-20-2021 09:24 PM

Phillip Walker

smitty46953 01-20-2021 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184652)
I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

Mr. Session 01-20-2021 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 184686)
Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

I wonder what they could him for from Detroit. I've got a lot of family and some friends from Detroit. They all have said they think Stafford deserves to play for a competent franchise.

I haven't seen enough of the guy's tape to really make any kind of declarative statement but generally what I've seen from him I've liked.

I would hope he could at least produce like River's did, but if they don't have a legitimate long term plan in place I'm going to be annoyed at us renting a quarterback for another year or two and pushing the problem down the line.

Puck 01-20-2021 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 184686)
Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

My bad I should’ve added in trade for also in the title

smitty46953 01-20-2021 11:13 PM

That kid Puck linked in original post Jamie Newman looks pretty good :cool:

So does Sage Surratt the WR

Butter 01-20-2021 11:14 PM

i am down for Stafford or Ryan with the 21st and maybe some change.

JAFF 01-21-2021 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 184685)
Phillip Walker

Lol

albany ed 01-21-2021 07:38 AM

First, the Jets trade for Watson, getting him out of our division. Darnold becomes unnecessary for them so we trade a 3rd rounder for him and Reich turns him around and we have a solid QB for the next 15 years.

JAFF 01-21-2021 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 184706)
First, the Jets trade for Watson, getting him out of our division. Darnold becomes unnecessary for them so we trade a 3rd rounder for him and Reich turns him around and we have a solid QB for the next 15 years.

If the Jets were to trade for Watson wouldn’t they probably wind up asking for Darnold in the trade because they’re gonna need a quarterback?

Racehorse 01-21-2021 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 184695)
That kid Puck linked in original post Jamie Newman looks pretty good :cool:

So does Sage Surratt the WR

On a side note, I went to HS with a girl whose last name was Surratt. Had one of the nicest asses I have ever seen.

albany ed 01-21-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184707)
If the Jets were to trade for Watson wouldn’t they probably wind up asking for Darnold in the trade because they’re gonna need a quarterback?

Not necessarily, they'd get AT THE VERY LEAST,
the Jets 2 1st rounders this year, and with the second pick, they could select a QB.

apballin 01-21-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184705)
Lol

No I’m being serious

JAFF 01-21-2021 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 184718)
No I’m being serious

You are fucking killing me smalls LOL oh LOL

rcubed 01-21-2021 09:40 PM

I think draft. Maybe a surprise big move up to grab one of the top guys. Or maybe jones at 21.


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Puck 01-22-2021 12:17 AM

Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it

JAFF 01-22-2021 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184808)
Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it


While you’re at it why don’t you put some lemon juice in that cut

Racehorse 01-22-2021 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184808)
Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it

I would love that, but it appears that ship has sailed.

Coltsaction 01-22-2021 08:45 AM

Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

njcoltfan 01-22-2021 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsaction (Post 184823)
Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

To the Texans for Watson !!

Hoopsdoc 01-22-2021 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsaction (Post 184823)
Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

If he did come back(he won’t), it would take a year just to knock the rust off.

That ship has indeed sailed.

IndyNorm 01-22-2021 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 184828)
If he did come back(he won’t), it would take a year just to knock the rust off.

That ship has indeed sailed.

Depends on his conditioning, but if he were to come back now he really wouldn't have missed much more time than he did for the shoulder surgery. So it might look more like the '18 season.

Agree that the ship has sailed though and it won't happen.

Hoopsdoc 01-22-2021 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 184829)
Depends on his conditioning, but if he were to come back now he really wouldn't have missed much more time than he did for the shoulder surgery. So it might look more like the '18 season.

Agree that the ship has sailed though and it won't happen.

2 full seasons and 2 full offseasons. That’s quite a bit more than his shoulder injury.

IndyNorm 01-22-2021 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 184830)
2 full seasons and 2 full offseasons. That’s quite a bit more than his shoulder injury.

I could be misremembering, but he missed 1 full season and essentially 2 offseasons with the shoulder surgery since he wasn't throwing the ball until training camp for the '18 season. It's a moot point, but I think it's closer than you think.

Chromeburn 01-22-2021 10:42 AM

At this point I just don't know what they should do. I'm leaning towards the draft. But I would like to see more data and testing on all the QB's. I would probably say draft a guy, let him compete and be opportunistic with the fallout of the draft, FA, and the lower cap.

Oldcolt 01-22-2021 10:46 AM

That we have a full page of Luck shit shows how screwed we truly are. There are no good options, I just hope Ballard can do some magic.

njcoltfan 01-22-2021 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 184838)
That we have a full page of Luck shit show how screwed we truly are. There are no good options, I just hope Ballard can do some magic.

Show’s how Luck really screwed the Colts, going into year 3 post Luck, and no clue about who the next QB will be. If I’m not mistaken, every AFC playoff QB this year was a first round pick

JAFF 01-22-2021 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 184861)
Show’s how Luck really screwed the Colts, going into year 3 post Luck, and no clue about who the next QB will be. If I’m not mistaken, every AFC playoff QB this year was a first round pick

It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

Mr. Session 01-22-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184889)
It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

He knew what he signed up for, I'm tired of people giving him an out for this.

I'm not judging him for walking away. Objectively it's smart. He's made generational wealth; Why continue? He does not get a pass for hustling everyone, even if it wasn't intentional, on who he was.

Clearly he did not know he was incapable of handling the burdens as they relate to the sport. I thought I was invincible when I was a kid too.

I MAINTAIN - Manning broke his fucking neck and won a superbowl, and we sent him packing because this dude sold us on something he was not able to provide. If he was as passionate about the job as Manning, Brady, Brees, and every other generational quarterback he was supposed to be like, he would not have walked away from the team when it was finally ready to make deep playoff runs.

Brylok 01-22-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184889)
It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts...

It's "amazing" that other fans have a different opinion about Luck than you do. Alrighty then.

Hoopsdoc 01-23-2021 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184889)
It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

How many times have we been through this? Why do you reflexively feel the need to defend Luck?

We can refrain from begrudging him anything and still discuss what is blatantly obvious-he completely screwed the franchise by retiring when and how he did.


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