Colts trade #3 with Jets
 

We drop to 6 and pick up two more picks in the second round and something in 2019.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2018/...2018nfl-draft/

https://twitter.com/Colts/status/975...118208/photo/1

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/...8-b2dfc1857633

Here's a little more...if the link works. Says 3 in '18, 1 in '19.

Also jets 2nd in 2019

At least this makes things much more clear. I wonder if we could have gotten more from Buffalo if we had waited (12 & 21). But picking 6 you still can almost guarantee one of Chubb/Barkley/Nelson are there.


For reference, last year the bears moved from 3 to 2. Cost them a 3, 4, and future 3.

Sweet !!! :cool:

To drop only 3 spots in the draft, where one of Barkley/Chubb/Nelson is a lock to be at and gain the 3 extra 2nd round picks is a no brainer! Could even trade back again and keep stacking up those picks... Just wouldn't want to drop too far and miss out on a potential all pro. We now have 7 picks in the first 2 rounds of the next 2 drafts and aside from Vinny probably the youngest team in the league!

I think once the bills signed AJ McCarron they were out of the qb derby to move up.

Posted about this yesterday. Possible that Chubb is still there. If not him, probably Nelson or Smith, or another trade down to the Bills. Solid move on the surface, but let’s see the package of players.

That’s a huge haul. 6, 37, 49, and next years 2nd.

Well, at least this I can get behind, may not get Chubb, but we can add a lot more pieces.

Draft value chart
1.3 = 2200

1.06 = 1600
2.05 = 530
2.17 = 410
= 2540 + 2019 2nd is great value

:cool:

This team is so talent bereft, it HAD to happen. Maximizing our capital in terms of potential impact players was absolutely necessary.

Now Ballard has to MAKE those picks. I was pretty happy with what he did in the 1st/2nd Round last year. He needs to repeat that.

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not done yet. With #36/37 back to back, we have a lot of ammo to come trading back into the first round.

If we hold at 1.6 (1600 pts) till draft day, Ballard may still get calls to move back again.

Bills perhaps with 1.12 and 1.22 (1980 pts)
or
Dolphins 1.11, 2.10, 3.9 (1955 pts)

There aren't words to express how brilliant I think this is. Not just cuz he traded back, but because he only traded back to freaking SIXTH overall with 4 QBs likely to go before.

No guarantee of course, but Colts could still end up with Chubb ... plus 2 additional second rounders plus future capital.

Or they could move up to get someone with that capital if they want.

Or they could acquire even more picks.

This is how you GM.

If the Colts can still land Chubb then this is a fantastic trade, I woulda not want to trade out of this position. Good work Mr. Ballard!!!!

http://www.colts.com/videos/videos/T...c-b7774b451d29

Ballard talking about the trade ... :cool:

Interesting choice of words by Ballard. "The player that we think we are gonna get".

He has one particular player in mind, and that player has to be Chubb?

I like this trade a lot. I hope we stay at 6 though.

I hope it's Nelson, but would be good with either one Nelson or Chubb ... :cool:

The scuttlebutt here in Jersey is that the Colts got the better end of the deal (no shit Sherlock) and the reason the Jests didn't want to wait until Colts were on the clock to pull the trigger is because Ballard was actively negotiating with their division rival (Buffalo) as well and insisted on closing the deal ahead of the draft or else he'd take it north to Buffalo.

Side note....if Chubb is taken in the top 5 I think he may pull the trigger with Buffalo and try to take Nelson at 12 vs. "overpaying" for him at 6.

It's an awesome trade. I believe it would take an almost unbelievable from the Bills for Ballard to move out of 6.

I hope that this trade has simmered down some of the absurd talk that Ballard doesn't know wtf he's doing.

Now Ballard has a chance to get Chubb, and in the 2nd round,Michel and possibly 2 quality O-linemen.

Nelson won’t get past 8 to Chicago.

Could also move a couple picks to move back into the 1st for an OT or LB.

For me easily the best part of this trade is what it says about Luck. Don’t think you would trade out if you were concerned about Luck being able to play. Great move by Ballard. Love how he goes about his business. Has a plan, sticks to it (not overpaying free agents and working the draft). Going on o be a fun year for us

Chicago won't let Nelson drop past #8, they hired the ND Line coach and know what he can be ... :cool:

Like see them get Nelson at #6 and trade back up for McGlinchey our line would be fixed ... :cool:

This is a tremendous haul of picks for 3 spots. Well done Ballard. QB's drive up the prices. The Jets obviously like someone more than the others (which is what happens) and they wanted to make sure they get him. My guess is Rosen.

Anyway, yeah we could trade again if a team is desperate for one of the last QB's. And we still will have a shot at the top four non-qb's. Also there is Smith and Edwards to consider.

Perfect, still get Chubb and great additional value. Exactly the type of trade this franchise needs.

I've thought about this as well, it's not an attractive draft, but helps out our biggest weakness.

Never suggested that he doesn't know what he's doing. But, ignoring free agency is like deciding to travel from Indy to South Bend and not make any left turns along the way. You'll eventually get to Notre Dame, but it would've been quicker if you'd turned left once or twice along the way.

I don't think he has ignored FA. We signed a bunch of guys last year and so far signed one this year with a few more expected. He just wants his core through the draft.

he didnt ignore FA, like others have said, stuck to his plan.

He was in on several but didnt want to meet the price. I wish he would have maybe stretched a bit on one but I am not going to kill him over it.

I agree, and I think Nelson at 6 is fine. Didn't want him at 3, but 6 is appropriate.
Also, I think taking Nelson and the extra picks is more valuable than taking Chubb at 3. If we can get some of those good LBs with the 2 second-round picks, that would be oustanding!

Why wouldn't the Colts still take Chubb at 6? The first 5 picks are going to be Barkley and 4 QBs.

When you look at really successful teams, nowadays, it's hard to find any that are built strictly through the draft. New England and Philadelphia's rosters are heavy with high quality players either signed as free agents or traded for.

It's been suggested that Ballard wants to build a roster, then supplement it with free agents. I'd just like to see more flexibility. When you have so many holes, it doesn't seem unreasonable to add a few high quality, top 50 type free agents, every now and again.

You have to assume that, with a year on the job behind him, he's built the kind of quality pro scouting staff who can identify guys who can help.

But, anyway, it's a good trade that gives us the flexibility to move back into the 1st round if someone we really like slips into the late teens or 20's.

Kudos.

Nelson is probably more of a sure thing than Chubb. The draft highway is littered with the corpses of pass rushers who didn't work out, one case in point being Bjoern Werner.

A Pagano pick.

Dion Jordan
Derrick Harvey
Vern Gholston
Aaron Maybin
Ken Sims
Jamal Reynolds
Courtney Brown
Steve Emtman

I could give you a list at least thrice as long of players that did work out, especially going all the way back to 1992.

You could say the same thing about high pick guards/OL. Impact pass rushers are more rare and difficult to find than starting guards, so when you get the chance to take one, you take him. I also would, for once, like to see the Colts support a franchise QB with a defense. A QB like Luck performing at his peak with a defense that can dominate and take over a game is in my opinion the best championship winning formula an NFL team could hope for.