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Racehorse 02-18-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154111)
I’m down with it, you know he wants to win a super bowl and dude is an Ironman

If this guy is for it, then we all KNOW it is a bad idea.

Pez 02-18-2020 04:34 PM

The only thing I want from Philip Rivers is for him to sign with the Browns. Grigson pisses off Mayfield and we get him.

Maniac 02-18-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 154138)
The only thing I want from Philip Rivers is for him to sign with the Browns. Grigson pisses off Mayfield and we get him.

Why? Mayfield sucks. They can keep him.

apballin 02-18-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 154116)
This is where I am. I just want to draft a kid and let him roll

Doing that means next season is a waste to give some punkass rookie experience, fuck that this team has been built for 2 years and is ready to win now

apballin 02-18-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 154122)
If this guy is for it, then we all KNOW it is a bad idea.

Rivers makes us a better team so you goddam right I’m for it

Dewey 5 02-18-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154144)
Rivers makes us a better team so you goddam right I’m for it

And you'll be the first person to bitch when it goes bad.

apballin 02-18-2020 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 154151)
And you'll be the first person to bitch when it goes bad.

Can’t go any worse than last season

Maniac 02-18-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 154151)
And you'll be the first person to bitch when it goes bad.

If that's what you want to worry about, then the Colts should never take any risk on any players, because what if they don't pan out?

Ballard will take the risk if he thinks there is a chance it helps the team.

Spike 02-19-2020 12:45 AM

I don't understand all this Rivers BS. He's a shot fighter. I watched some Charger games and Rivers just flat out sucked. 23 Td's and 20 interceptions. Fuck that. Come back Luck, Irsay will pay you 50 million a year. Damn, I hate the situation we are in.

Spike 02-19-2020 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154144)
Rivers makes us a better team so you goddam right I’m for it

Rivers is not the player he use to be. His arm strength has diminished, he's a statue in the pocket and he's a prick. Keep his sorry ass off of my Colts team.

apballin 02-19-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 154160)
Rivers is not the player he use to be. His arm strength has diminished, he's a statue in the pocket and he's a prick. Keep his sorry ass off of my Colts team.

He’s a fiery competitor he’s played 16 road games for 2 years now behind a shitty o line. Brisset has the arm but refuses to throw deep so what’s the difference

Racehorse 02-19-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154164)
He’s a fiery competitor he’s played 16 road games for 2 years now behind a shitty o line. Brisset has the arm but refuses to throw deep so what’s the difference

Rivers is washed up. This isn't a comparison on him and Jacoby. We are talking about drafting a QB who can make us better for many years, not just one or two.

Maniac 02-19-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 154168)
Rivers is washed up. This isn't a comparison on him and Jacoby. We are talking about drafting a QB who can make us better for many years, not just one or two.

If he's washed up, then Ballard won't sign him. We'll find out soon enough.

As far as drafting a QB that can make us better for years, of course that's what the end goal is, but if they draft someone who isn't ready, then you need someone until then and they'll have to decide if we want to upgrade for that time or not.

apballin 02-19-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 154168)
Rivers is washed up. This isn't a comparison on him and Jacoby. We are talking about drafting a QB who can make us better for many years, not just one or two.

Right and out of the 3 options (brissett, rookie qb, rivers) the QB that gives us the best chance to win a superbowl next year would be Rivers

Chromeburn 02-19-2020 01:52 PM

From what I was reading Chargers fans have said Rivers is still ok but that is oline has been trash for years. He didn’t have any time to throw apparently and was always getting pressure up the middle.

Dam8610 02-19-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154175)
Right and out of the 3 options (brissett, rookie qb, rivers) the QB that gives us the best chance to win a superbowl next year would be Rivers

Those aren't the only 3 options.

apballin 02-19-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 154201)
Those aren't the only 3 options.

So who’s the best option?

Dam8610 02-19-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154204)
So who’s the best option?

I don't know, but I'd place my bet on Bridgewater if I was making the call.

apballin 02-19-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 154219)
I don't know, but I'd place my bet on Bridgewater if I was making the call.

Bridgewater had a nice 5 game stretch I’d be hesitant to throw him big $$$

JAFF 02-19-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154220)
Bridgewater had a nice 5 game stretch I’d be hesitant to throw him big $$$

Bridgewater had more offensive tools with the saints. Doesnt hurt to have the best wr in the league

Dam8610 02-19-2020 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154220)
Bridgewater had a nice 5 game stretch I’d be hesitant to throw him big $$$

But you're fine with throwing "big $$$" at a 38 year old Philip Rivers?

Maniac 02-20-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 154223)
But you're fine with throwing "big $$$" at a 38 year old Philip Rivers?

I don't think anyone is talking about Rivers getting big money at this point in his career

Dam8610 02-20-2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 154228)
I don't think anyone is talking about Rivers getting big money at this point in his career

If they're not going to throw starter money ($15+ million per year) at him, then they don't think he's a starter, so why bother?

albany ed 02-20-2020 06:29 AM

There's pro and cons on any of the free agent QBs. That much I recognize. But, to me, it's clear that if we begin next season with Brissett as our starter, my expectations would clearly be very low.

Luck4Reich 02-20-2020 06:32 AM

I'm not a fan of Rivers but...... if Ballard likes him as an option to give us a chance to win now even at 15-20 mil a year... which is barely in the top 15 of paid QB if that.

Mahomes didnt start right away so weather the guy Ballard sees as our Mahomes this year or next year... maybe Rivers could be the guy that gives us a SB shot now until the young QB is ready to take over.


Or we sit on that extra cap space like every year and dont :cool:

Luck4Reich 02-20-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 154233)
There's pro and cons on any of the free agent QBs. That much I recognize. But, to me, it's clear that if we begin next season with Brissett as our starter, my expectations would clearly be very low.

It's hard to disagree with that... If Brissett is starting it will be another 6-10 to an 8-8 season. I dont think Ballard stands pat and rides with Brissett.

Racehorse 02-20-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 154234)
I'm not a fan of Rivers but...... if Ballard likes him as an option to give us a chance to win now even at 15-20 mil a year... which is barely in the top 15 of paid QB if that.

Mahomes didnt start right away so weather the guy Ballard sees as our Mahomes this year or next year... maybe Rivers could be the guy that gives us a SB shot now until the young QB is ready to take over.


Or we sit on that extra cap space like every year and dont :cool:

If Rivers could be what gets us to a SB win, I would be glad to say I was wrong. I just don't see it as the answer. I also don't see JB as the answer. To me, the only quarterbacks available (even though neither is actually available) are Brees and Luck.

Maniac 02-20-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 154229)
If they're not going to throw starter money ($15+ million per year) at him, then they don't think he's a starter, so why bother?

There is a vast difference between starter money and big money relative to QB pay. Big money is where guys are making $30+ million a year. Rivers may get $15-$20 million at most. Paying a free agent lower end starter money on a 1 or 2 year deal is not a big deal if they think that player is an improvement over Brissett.

Chromeburn 02-20-2020 04:08 PM

Holder reporting that he is hearing Carr to Colts rumors. Think this might be the backup plan if they can't draft a guy they like.

Brylok 02-20-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 154239)
If Rivers could be what gets us to a SB win, I would be glad to say I was wrong. I just don't see it as the answer. I also don't see JB as the answer. To me, the only quarterbacks available (even though neither is actually available) are Brees and Luck.

The only way Rivers is getting to the super bowl is if he buys a ticket just like the rest of us.

apballin 02-20-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 154262)
Holder reporting that he is hearing Carr to Colts rumors. Think this might be the backup plan if they can't draft a guy they like.

Only problem with that is giving up draft picks for him

Puck 02-20-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 154262)
Holder reporting that he is hearing Carr to Colts rumors. Think this might be the backup plan if they can't draft a guy they like.

Is Holder ever right?

Racehorse 02-20-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 154262)
Holder reporting that he is hearing Carr to Colts rumors. Think this might be the backup plan if they can't draft a guy they like.

I like him better than Rivers.

Chromeburn 02-20-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154279)
Only problem with that is giving up draft picks for him

I’m not as attached to draft picks. We don’t get a prize for having the most draft picks. But if the Raiders get another QB, I can’t see them keeping Carr as well. If they can’t trade him they likely cut him.

Chromeburn 02-20-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 154286)
Is Holder ever right?

Well he and Andrew Luck were tight and he had great interviews with him and he saw him reti... oh no he got blindsided too.

apballin 02-20-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 154286)
Is Holder ever right?

Yea I’m not buying this bs, can’t see Ballard coming off picks for this dude

Puck 02-20-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 154306)
Yea I’m not buying this bs, can’t see Ballard coming off picks for this dude

Oh . I could see it happening. But Holder is just reading the forums and reporting what the fans are saying . Not credible

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-21-2020 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 154307)
But Holder is just reading the forums and reporting what the fans are saying


No - I think his source is some random guy at a pool

[He was on vacation last week/weekend in Florida to attend his daughter's gymnastics competition]



https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...42552936357888

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Florida update: Guy in the pool found out our group was from Indy. Says he’s originally from San Diego and had some intel: Colts are really interested in Phillip Rivers, he says. But y’all don’t tell nobody, ok. This is just between us.

Colt Classic 02-21-2020 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 154294)
I’m not as attached to draft picks. We don’t get a prize for having the most draft picks. But if the Raiders get another QB, I can’t see them keeping Carr as well. If they can’t trade him they likely cut him.

Bears fans are saying their rumored price for Carr is Floyd and a pick, so a similar price here. Some guy named Arkush (Chicago sports writer, I guess) tweeted it.

Pez 02-21-2020 12:08 PM

The only way I would be game for getting someone like Rivers or Bridgewater is if we dont pay huge money for them. And we get Shelby Harris from the Broncos and we trade up for Kinlaw.


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