Pretty obvious the Browns were supposed to win this one. Absolutely fucking ricockulous calls at the end of the game.

Extra TO is an extra play with 15 seconds. Whether we're down 1 or 3 was meaningless at that point.

10 yard completion, TO, 10 yard completion TO, hailmary...or you can run the 2 plays we did.

Fraidy cat play calling the last 2 drives when we had the lead and the clock. When you play not to lose, you lose! Prevent offense followed by prevent defense.

Maybe not at the end of the game, but the play calling at the end of the half for us allowed the Browns an extra FG. But maybe that's Jim Bob more than Shane.

Although if the Browns would have been 8 at the end instead of 5 then I'm sure the refs would have figured out a way to gift them a TD and 3 point conversion.

There's plenty of blame to go around for the Colts in this game, but the refs were the ultimate fuckers in this game. By far. That was about as bad as reffing as I've seen since Manning's rookie year against the 49ers.

It was a stupid time out. Let’s say Pittman makes that catch at midfield. You have to call your last timeout. 9 seconds left. Without wasting one you could have thrown to the middle of the field again to get in long FG range. Instead they would have had to throw to the sidelines which Browns would have contested heavily. I love Shane, he was poor tactically today. Last two minutes cost the team the game (plus refs). That was on coach. Timeout took options off the board at the end.

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(THE COLTS' DEFENSE)




Possessions: llll.... 15

Punts: llllllllllllllllllllllll,y. 5

INT's: llllllllllllllllllllllll,,y 2

TO on Downs: llllllllll. 1

TD's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 3

FG's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 4

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I'm so furious I can hardly speak. This officiating crew should be drawn
and quartered. I'm so sick and fucking tired of getting boned by these
crews week after week. Next home game Irsay should give security the
day off and let the zebras try this shit again. Fuck, I am mad.
This was theft pure and simple. And fuck the league for their supposed
review and grading of officials, its bullshit.

Not if they were throwing the game for the Browns. That was egregious.

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I'm hoping that this very questionably-refereed loss bands the Colts together, as opposed to demoralizing them ...... they could go on a 5-game winning streak heading into the game against the Bengals on December 10th.

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Man this league doesn't give even a half a fuck about the officials, could give less than any shits about fair competition. The score was 39-38. Lots of points and the team with the super high profile QB (though he is injured) won. Literally the ONLY FUCKING THINGS the league gives a fuck about- period! Roger's NFL is 100% predicated on arcade level scoring and 8-10 QB's that he can market on a rock star level. I fucking HATE the dude and just hope against hope that Gruden sticks to his guns and exposes this fucking stooge for what he really is.

Cannot say it better.... NFL needs to hold these asshole Refs accountable and fine said Refs for these stupid and clearly one sided preferencial calls. They spoil the the game and frankly this smells bad overall. Thought these one sided ref calls only worked for the home cooking games with the Patricias and Belly-lick.:mad:

If the refs can bet on the games, the players players should be able to also !!

It started when they took Kenny Moores int away in the first half.

That was a hose job from start to finish.

Complete screw job and there’s literally nothing anyone can do about it.

Before that was a couple holding calls that negated big Colt plays.

The refs absolutely screwed the Colts today, but lets be honest, they should never lose to PJ Walker, a practice squad player at best !!

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/10...his-team-a-win

The Colts got absolutely robbed by referee Shawn Smith and his gang today, with several questionable calls going the Browns’ way, but the worst of all coming in the final drive of the game.

The first questionable call came on 3rd and 4 inside the Colts’ red-zone, as linebacker E.J. Speed forced a fumble which Buckner recovered. A play that would have ended the game, but the refs called illegal contact on backup cornerback Darrell Baker Jr. and gave the Browns the ball back plus a first down. That call was not blatant, and I recognize I might be biased on this one because, of course, I am a Colts’ fan, but the worst call came right after that.

You can check the play yourself, but it is clear as day, Walker threw an uncatchable ball to wide receiver Donovan Peoples-Jones and the refs called DPI on Darrell Baker Jr., giving the Browns a first down on the one-yard line. It ended up taking them all 4 attempts to make it into the endzone, and the defense was holding their own. Even the announcers said that not even Calvin Johnson is holding onto that ball.

I just would like for the referees to have more accountability on their jobs. If I make a mistake as bad as that one on my job I get fired. Simple as that. This was not a whoopsy that could have happened to anyone, this is a terribly bad mistake at the worst possible time. Hopefully the NFL takes further measure and suspends this crew of incompetent so-called referees at least a couple of games, to make sure first of all that they are completely clean, and then if their honesty is out of the question at least make sure their eye-sight is okay. I will go ahead and do the first step for them, the name of the refs are #14 Shawn Smith, #45 line judge Jeff Seeman, #105 back judge Dino Paganelli, #109 field judge Dyrol Prioleau, and side judge #18 Clay Reynard.


I am normally pretty mello on this shit as a rule but this time I am livid and beyond livid.... How much were the refs paid off here as I cannot come up with another reason for the blantant bias?

At the end of the day, the Colts really aren’t going anywhere even if they win today. Not with Minshew starting.

So from a macro view, this was the best result.

But Jesus Tap Dancing Christ was that bullshit. Total fucking bullshit.

Sadly, Hoopsdoc is right, we are not a playoff team with Minshew, so the best outcome is a loss and no major injuries. It sucks having to watch another season of this crap, knowing that your team will be better next season and winning now just lowers your draft order! I'm not rooting for the team to lose, just not getting too upset when they lose!

There’s a lot of truth to this as well.

Colts lost the turnover battle 4-2. Minshew lost 3(!) fumbles. He morphed into Matt Ryan back there.

Can’t do that and expect to win.

I will take satisfaction in knowing that Cleveland is no good. They’re not going anywhere. They have a decent defense but Watson blows and keeps getting hurt.

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I actually underestimated the Colts' offense.

The Colts' defense actually played about as well as I had expected them to, as a good amount of points that the Browns scored were partially due to the offense putting the defense in bad positions with turnovers (including fumbling the ball in their own end-zone, which resulted in a Browns touchdown.)

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Even more of a bummer is that we're probably not going to be ready to make any real noise until '25 since next season is going to end up being AR's learning season. Especially if Steichen and Cooter redesign things, which they really need to if they want to keep AR healthy.

Yep, if AR can stay healthy we might squeak into a playoff slot next year, but probably not any further. I'll admit I am very fatigued from watching this team over the past 3 seasons. The more i watch other teams and their fans enjoying making playoff and championship runs it pisses me off even more! If AR turns out to be RG3 Jr. I'm not sure I am mentally tough enough to handle it!:eek:

Dam may have been right about trading up for Stroud, kid can play and doesn't seem the least bit injury prone. Between him and Lawrence, even with AR we might only be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the division!

I'm not as down on the Colts as you are. 2020 was a pretty good year, and even though 2021 ended in a complete embarrassment we had our moments. Last year was a shit show, but that'll happen sometimes when you don't have a franchise QB in place.

This year I went in expecting us to be bad, so where we're currently at doesn't really bother me. I am nervous about AR staying healthy though :(

Was just listening to the Colts wrap up. We rank 7th in pass offense and 9th in rush offense. Those are pretty damn impressive rankings considering the QB situation through 7 games and the fact JT was really only back in the mix starting yesterday. I can't remember the stats but we also have really high ranking for plays 20+, 30+, 40+ and 50+ yards. A ton of credit has to go to Steichen for playing a very aggressive style of football. I am not certain that IF we can get a full season out of AR we can't be one of the more explosive offenses in the league next year. Hell AR was already pretty high in explosive plays- put another year in the playbook for him to just absorb, we should really be lethal next year- though I still want one game breaking WR for him.

So much more impressive than what Reich was throwing out there last year. It's like light and day!

See, I think we can make some noise next season. AR is LIGHT YEARS ahead of where I thought he’d be as a passer. He’s already better throwing the ball than Lamar.

He’s had some experience and he’ll have the whole season and offseason to sit in on meetings and learn the playbook.

I think he could really take off next year.

He just has to figure out how to stay healthy.

I could not be more excited about our quarterback.

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Right now, this flat-out robbery by the referees looms as a 4-game swing between the Colts and the Browns.

The Browns are currently 7-3 overall, and essentially own a 3-game lead over the Colts, whom are 5-5 ...... the 2 games in which they are mathematically ahead of the Colts, plus an additional game because a tie in the final standings would go to the Browns.

If the referees had done their jobs competently, both teams would be 6-4 right now, with the Colts owning the tie-breaker ...... meaning that the Colts would essentially have a 1-game lead on the Browns in a potential season-ending tie between the 2 teams.

So instead of +1 in head-on competition with the Browns in the AFC standings, the Colts are -3.

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All of that said, the Colts need to regroup and put that excruciating loss behind them ...... good teams don't use bad calls and/or the robbery of a game as an excuse to collapse ...... they come back strong, and try to right what they consider to be an injustice by winning the remaining games that they have left on their schedule.

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