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JAFF 04-25-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 191581)
Here's my PFF draft simulator results (did not make any trades):

21. Teven Jenkins (T) Okl St.
54. Payton Turner (Ed) Hou.
127. Tay Gowan (CB) UCF
165. Jamar Johnson (S) IU
206. Jonathan Adams Jr. (WR) Ark. St.
248. Whop Philyor (WR) IU

FWIW PFF gave me a B+

A B+ makes you as smart as Bill Tobins mailman. :eek: :cool::D

Puck 04-25-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 191614)
This is a weak EDGE draft compared to most. Some 1st round projected players have very little production and are being slotted by the pundits based on athletic traits alone.

Agree. that is why I said if one of the top ones are there then take them.

I doubt they will TBH.

But I do think there could be a very high rated CB or WR that drops.

A CB that can cover for longer can help a pass rush and vise versa. A pass rush that gets there quicker keeps the secondary from having to cover for longer periods of time.

As far as Turay and Lewis. There is no reason to draft any player if your not going to give them a legit chance. Same with Campbell

Puck 04-25-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191609)
I wouldn't take Cosmi over Jenkins, but I'll hope for whichever one Ballard drafts to be the best in the class.

Johnathan Ogden was 6'9", and he had a pretty good career as long as he wasn't facing Dwight Freeney.

I think the Raiders take Jenkins. I think Cosmi falls to mid 2nd round

Chromeburn 04-25-2021 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191609)
I wouldn't take Cosmi over Jenkins, but I'll hope for whichever one Ballard drafts to be the best in the class.

Johnathan Ogden was 6'9", and he had a pretty good career as long as he wasn't facing Dwight Freeney.

It’s generally considered to be too tall though. Ogden is the outlier, not the standard. There is a reason Feeeney gave him fits. But I would use a late round pick on him. Why not.

apballin 04-25-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 191614)
This is a weak EDGE draft compared to most. Some 1st round projected players have very little production and are being slotted by the pundits based on athletic traits alone.

So instead of drafting a better LT prospect that will be on the field 100% of the time draft a guy that will play maybe 30% that makes no sense to me

apballin 04-25-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191609)
I wouldn't take Cosmi over Jenkins, but I'll hope for whichever one Ballard drafts to be the best in the class.

Johnathan Ogden was 6'9", and he had a pretty good career as long as he wasn't facing Dwight Freeney.

I’d take Cosmi over Jenkins, he played LT more, he’s taller, has longer arms , more athletic and benched just as many reps as Jenkins

Cosmi is like a Costanzo clone as far as body type, Jenkins seems more like a Charlie Johnson

JAFF 04-25-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 191623)
I’d take Cosmi over Jenkins, he played LT more, he’s taller, has longer arms , more athletic and benched just as many reps as Jenkins

Cosmi is like a Costanzo clone as far as body type, Jenkins seems more like a Charlie Johnson

The guy they draft fights as hard as Charlie Johnson, he has a good chance of success

rcubed 04-25-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 191623)
I’d take Cosmi over Jenkins, he played LT more, he’s taller, has longer arms , more athletic and benched just as many reps as Jenkins

Cosmi is like a Costanzo clone as far as body type, Jenkins seems more like a Charlie Johnson


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apballin 04-25-2021 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 191624)
The guy they draft fights as hard as Charlie Johnson, he has a good chance of success

I’m not saying Jenkins isn’t good or will not be successful, I’m just saying if I had the choice at 21 id take Cosmi

IndyNorm 04-27-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 191616)
A B+ makes you as smart as Bill Tobins mailman. :eek: :cool::D

Which is still way better than Mel Kiper right? :D

Oldcolt 04-28-2021 11:51 AM

What are the odds we know who our first pick is tomorrow night. Most expect a trade down, I'm not so sure. If you think you can fix your LOT for the next 10 years do it at 21. 70/30 we keep it. I'm guessing Ballard will surprise me one way or another.

rcubed 04-28-2021 12:46 PM

I agree if the next 10 year LT is there at 21 then take him and dont look back.

But ballard loves value and extra picks so I expect a trade down. It wouldnt surprise me to go a different direction at 21 then get LT somewhere is second round. Ballard has acknowledged that OL is deep and talented this year so....

TheMugwump 04-28-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 191760)
Which is still way better than Mel Kiper right? :D

Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr?

smitty46953 04-28-2021 02:56 PM

Saints looking to move up in front of Titans. Ballard could add pick and move from 1.21 to 1.28 still get a LT ? :cool:

Chromeburn 04-28-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 191804)
Saints looking to move up in front of Titans. Ballard could add pick and move from 1.21 to 1.28 still get a LT ? :cool:

Hmm I wonder why they do. Pass rusher they want? Titans supposedly like Jenkins also.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2021 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 191818)
Hmm I wonder why they do. Pass rusher they want? Titans supposedly like Jenkins also.


Saints are reportedly targeting CB Caleb Farley according to the rumors. The rumors could also be from his agent trying to boost his draft stock.

Chromeburn 04-28-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 191819)
Saints are reportedly targeting CB Caleb Farley according to the rumors. The rumors could also be from his agent trying to boost his draft stock.

Can never discount that possibility. Wonder what they would give up. If we go to 28 we probably won’t get Jenkins. Cosmi would likely be questionable. Some pass rusher/projects should still be there.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 191820)
Wonder what they would give up.


In their all trades mock draft, ESPN had speculated the price would be about 2 third round picks (New Orleans has a 3rd round comp pick this year in addition to the regular pick). Instead of getting two 3rd round picks this year, I wonder if Ballard would prefer one this year and one next year with the hope that scouting / draft preparation would be more back to normal for the 2022 draft.

Dam8610 04-28-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 191820)
Can never discount that possibility. Wonder what they would give up. If we go to 28 we probably won’t get Jenkins. Cosmi would likely be questionable. Some pass rusher/projects should still be there.

Apparently the trade everyone projects there is 21 for 28, 98, and 105. I wouldn't hate it and would certainly be willing to take a chance on Dillon Radunz or Brady Christensen at LT if need be to pick up 2 3s.

JAFF 04-29-2021 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191841)
Apparently the trade everyone projects there is 21 for 28, 98, and 105. I wouldn't hate it and would certainly be willing to take a chance on Dillon Radunz or Brady Christensen at LT if need be to pick up 2 3s.

Easy for you to say, your job isnt on the line.

Racehorse 04-29-2021 06:48 AM

I bet we stay at 21 and pick up the best OT available. Ballard believes in line play and likely will not risk losing out on a great one with so many teams having suspect OLines. Or I could be wrong and he trades back twice.

ukcolt 04-29-2021 07:03 AM

I would love to see the Colts take a look at Stanford tackle Walker Little, he looks like a beast, but a beast who sat out last year and suffered a serious knee injury in the first game of 2019. Hopefully with the significant time off, he will be fully healed and ready to resume playing. If we could get him in the 3rd or 4th round, he could prove to be an absolute steal.

Chromeburn 04-29-2021 09:25 AM

A TE we might like in this draft is Kenny Yeboah. He is not a great blocker at this time, a former WR. But he does catch the ball well running down the seam and that’s something this offense likes and Wentz loves to throw. He would be a day three pick.


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