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VeveJones007 09-05-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 129751)
Well, Brissett got $28 million for one additional year. Looks like Goff got $134 for 4 additional years, or an average of $33.5 million per. Not all that different on a per year basis, actually.

smh

I'm done here

rm1369 09-05-2019 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 129750)
Yes, but don't forget that by paying him now, before he's proven anything, you also remove the benefit of having a guy in his "contract year" and trying to put his best foot forward for possible free agency.

Are you serious?

Oldcolt 09-05-2019 05:37 PM

I do not get why this is an issue. This will not hamper the team at all. We still have 51 million in cap space. It hurts no one. It is chump change to Irsay so it doesn't hurt him. It is really nice for Jacoby Brissett. Good for him. He seems like a nice guy and has been loyal to this organization. I'm pretty sure it engenders good will among players both on the team and in the NFL as a whole. I just don't see the downside. I think this team is fiscally very responsible and is in as good a position as any team to be successful long term.

nate505 09-05-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 129629)
Do you have the contract details? If not, I don't know how you can say this. I saw a tweet earlier that said Brissett's cap hit this year would be something like $8.5 million. If that's the case, and the guy has a full $20 million guaranteed on the contract, the remaining $11.5M (plus whatever non-guaranteed salary he was already paid) will come home to roost when he's cut.

Not that I'm a cap expert, far from it actually, but considering the Colts seem to be under the cap every year, why is it a big deal if he's getting this money? Is this going to somehow ruin any flexibility they have in the free agent market (something they never seem to use)? Will it prevent the Colts from signing one of their own players next season?

Chaka 09-05-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 129769)
Are you serious?

I am, as a counterpoint to Vevejones' comments about the benefits of paying the guy before he's proven much. If you're going to make a comment like that, I think you've got to look at what you lose as well to see if it balances out. I'm sure you'll say that you might not want to sign a guy long term if he only performs when he's about to get paid, which is true, but the opposite can also be true - if you fill a guy's pockets with money before he's had to prove anything, isn't there the chance that he'll lose some motivation?

Chaka 09-05-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 129777)
I do not get why this is an issue. This will not hamper the team at all. We still have 51 million in cap space. It hurts no one. It is chump change to Irsay so it doesn't hurt him. It is really nice for Jacoby Brissett. Good for him. He seems like a nice guy and has been loyal to this organization. I'm pretty sure it engenders good will among players both on the team and in the NFL as a whole. I just don't see the downside. I think this team is fiscally very responsible and is in as good a position as any team to be successful long term.

Look, I have nothing against Brissett. I like the guy actually, and I certainly want him to succeed. Everything you say is pretty much true - it is unlikely to hurt us significantly (from a financial standpoint at least) if he doesn't work out, and he seems like a nice guy, and it may create some goodwill. But so would the same contract for $8-10M per year. I'm just saying I think, under the circumstances and with what we know as we sit here TODAY, it seems like an overpay. He may play well this season, or even great (I'm hoping he does), but it won't change this fact.

Chaka 09-05-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 129778)
Not that I'm a cap expert, far from it actually, but considering the Colts seem to be under the cap every year, why is it a big deal if he's getting this money? Is this going to somehow ruin any flexibility they have in the free agent market (something they never seem to use)? Will it prevent the Colts from signing one of their own players next season?


it's only a question of financial management. Yes, this one contract probably won't ruin our flexibility going forward. But I'm just trying to be vigilant against signs of overspending or waste. I am definitely 100% against the "well, we've got lots of cap space so let's not worry about it" mentality. It's kinda the like the idea that if you add up all the money some people fritter away every day on small, so-called insignificant purchases like cigarettes and Starbucks coffee, it ends up being a staggering amount over time. There is a lot of truth to that.

smitty46953 09-05-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 129761)
smh

I'm done here

Love the sarcasm !!! :cool:

rcubed 09-05-2019 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 129751)
Well, Brissett got $28 million for one additional year. Looks like Goff got $134 for 4 additional years, or an average of $33.5 million per. Not all that different on a per year basis, actually.



People question the goff contract also. We are tied to brissett for this and most likely next season. If he was signed 4-5 years at that rate I would be much less happy.


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JAFF 09-05-2019 09:17 PM

Its all monopoly money


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