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YDFL Commish 05-28-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 121022)
And apparently more bearish on McCoy than I am (or are you just more optimistic about Autry/Lewis?)

I wouldn't say that I'm more bearish on McCoy. I just have not seen enough of his recent play to determine what value he has. So strictly basing it on his stats, the production is not there. If someone can say that they've watched a lot of his play and that he was often commanding double teams, then I will defer to that opinion.

Chromeburn 05-28-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 121031)
I wouldn't say that I'm more bearish on McCoy. I just have not seen enough of his recent play to determine what value he has. So strictly basing it on his stats, the production is not there. If someone can say that they've watched a lot of his play and that he was often commanding double teams, then I will defer to that opinion.

I catch some bucs games occasionally. He is not the player he was, but I do think he could be effective in a rotation andmifht even play better than he has in recent years.

Butter 05-28-2019 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 121030)
I think we are lacking a little beef up front. So I’m wondering if we line up say against Seattle or New England. Can we hold up against a game plan that wants to run all day long. I know the titans and jaguars are looking at us that way. That is how I see NE attacking us. It’s how they are built currently with two young backs. I know everyone is worried about pass rush, but I am kind worried about our lack of size. Can we hang in December in the cold against a team determined to run through the 4th quarter?

Me too, I am very concerned with how light the D is getting.

Colt Classic 05-29-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 121034)
Me too, I am very concerned with how light the D is getting.

Eric Foster and Keyunta Dawson think we're getting light too. :D

JAFF 05-29-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 121034)
Me too, I am very concerned with how light the D is getting.


www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/05/15/indianapolis-colts-ben-banogu-chris-ballard-bobby-okereke-khari-willis-patrick-mahomes/3671800002/"]http://https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/05/15/indianapolis-colts-ben-banogu-chris-ballard-bobby-okereke-khari-willis-patrick-mahomes/3671800002/

Heres what Ballard is thinking

Coltsalr 05-29-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 121031)
I wouldn't say that I'm more bearish on McCoy. I just have not seen enough of his recent play to determine what value he has. So strictly basing it on his stats, the production is not there. If someone can say that they've watched a lot of his play and that he was often commanding double teams, then I will defer to that opinion.

Not sure where you fall on the scale of Omaha-to-Sherck in terms of PFF, but FWIW, PFF has him as still solidly above average and as the #28 DT:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...ald-mccoy/5528

For reference, Autry was an above average DT but the #60 DT:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...ico-autry/8982

YDFL Commish 05-29-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 121066)
Not sure where you fall on the scale of Omaha-to-Sherck in terms of PFF, but FWIW, PFF has him as still solidly above average and as the #28 DT:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...ald-mccoy/5528

For reference, Autry was an above average DT but the #60 DT:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...ico-autry/8982

I'm somewhere in between those two concerning PFF's value. Some of their stats can't be disputed, while others just seem like fluff and don't really tell you how good a player is.

I do wonder if PFF or some other site tracks how often a DL is double teamed. I believe that is valuable information and can explain why a players stats may not be what they should be.

That being said, I was happy to see in that article, that McCoy has had some success playing NT for the Bucs, that certainly adds to his value.

Racehorse 05-29-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 121052)

The link won't work for me for some reason

JAFF 05-29-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 121126)
The link won't work for me for some reason

I mess up the link, im on a tablet. If you go back, I cleared the problem but I cant relink it. If you copy and past it in the url box it should work

Discflinger 05-29-2019 10:42 PM

Won't pay for Indystar. Cut and paste? Please?


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