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Indiana V2 04-27-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 10903)
I would be ok with it. 15 is a little high. But at the end of the day if he is a good player, I don't care if he is a reach. I am starting to think Jordan Willis is the best ED?GE we can get, Polian was practically doing back flips talking about him.

If there's one position Polian does know about it's edge rushers.

apballin 04-27-2017 07:29 PM

Said it before and I'm saying it again Foster or Lamp

DrSpaceman 04-27-2017 10:15 PM

Foster and Allen available and we pick a safety?

Please tell me this is not TJ green part two? Hopefully more a healthy Bob Sanders

Blue Thunder 04-27-2017 10:22 PM

I love this pick. Butler back to nickel...GM, true to his word, TJ Green has to work his ass off for snaps...Best player left on the board next to Allen. OJ Howard would get me excited as well.

natagu23 04-27-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 11285)
Foster and Allen available and we pick a safety?

Please tell me this is not TJ green part two? Hopefully more a healthy Bob Sanders

Hooker is the real deal. Hooker is easily the "rangiest" player in the draft. Case and point, part of Clemson's gameplan in the college playoff was to avoid throwing any where around Hooker, but he still managed to pick off Watson because he's that good.

He fits what Pagano likes with a single high safety and man across the board.

T.J. Green? Again, I would like to see him get a shot at corner. Its brainless in a man scheme compared to playing safety.

Either that or trade his ass, because Green isn't beating out Hooker.

Puck 04-27-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 11370)
Hooker is the real deal. Hooker is easily the "rangiest" player in the draft. Case and point, part of Clemson's gameplan in the college playoff was to avoid throwing any where around Hooker, but he still managed to pick off Watson because he's that good.

He fits what Pagano likes with a single high safety and man across the board.

T.J. Green? Again, I would like to see him get a shot at corner. Its brainless in a man scheme compared to playing safety.

Either that or trade his ass, because Green isn't beating out Hooker.

Could be some thoughts of playing some big nickel with Geathers Hooker and Green

VeveJones007 04-27-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 11377)
Could be some thoughts of playing some big nickel with Geathers Hooker and Green

I don't think Green even registers in Ballard's planning process. FS was always a position he was looking to upgrade.

natagu23 04-27-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 11377)
Could be some thoughts of playing some big nickel with Geathers Hooker and Green

Hooker is already better than Green no doubt about it. No projects here. Hooker is who he is and that is a legit Ed Reed type who can shut down one top half of the field.

Green has to see the field some how imo in order to evaluate whether if he'll sink or float and that has to be at corner.

Plus we're paper thin at corner even if we make a selection day 2 of the draft. It only makes sense.

Blue Thunder 04-27-2017 11:54 PM

I can see Green competing for playing time at nickel... but I also see him backing up Geathers at SS. In any event our secondary is improved.

Chromeburn 04-28-2017 12:19 AM

The FS is one of the most important positions in the cover 3, and we got one of the best FS's to project in that defense since Earl Thomas. For what we do, this was a very good pick. Grigson's answer to that FS was TJ Green, Ballard's answer is Malik Hooker. Already I know we have a better GM with one pick.

And this isn't to say TJ Green should be gone. We surely can find a place for a guy his size and speed. Just not as the center fielder. Perhaps as the guy to watch the back out of the field. Because that is how you beat the cover 3 with a speedy back out of the back field.


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