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rm1369 03-17-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 156414)
Probably need to draft one also. Can’t imagine they sign a guy and keep Hoyer and Brisset around. Will probably draft a project I imagine. Maybe one next year.

My best guess - they sign Rivers, keep JB, draft Anthony Gordon.

Brylok 03-17-2020 09:58 AM

I've had a night to sleep on it and I still love the trade! Can't wait to see Buckner in action!

Puck 03-17-2020 10:00 AM

Yep. I’m still excited

smitty46953 03-17-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 156417)
I've had a night to sleep on it and I still love the trade! Can't wait to see Buckner in action!

Same here great trade for both teams. Can you imagine how many tackles Leonard and Walker will get now with Buckner demanding a double team? :eek:

Dam8610 03-17-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 156381)
First 4 years, Aaron Donald (average per year):

51.0 tackles, 9.75 sacks, 10.5 TFL, 2.25 FF

First 4 years, DeForest Buckner (avrage per year):

65.5 tackles, 7.13 sacks, 5.0 TFL, 0.75 FF

Not quite the impact player Donald was stat-wise. However,

And if you are into the PFF thing, AD first, DB second

Year 1 = 90.2 / 71.6
Year 2 = 93.0 / 82.2
Year 3 = 92.6 / 79.3
Year 4 = 94.0 / 78.8

I have seen a lot of "analysis" saying that DB is trending like AD did in his first 4 years.

We are not getting Aarond Donald.

But, the DeForest Buckner we are getting, especially after reading/watching that Stampede Blue article on him, is pretty darn good.

I agree that we only "hope" that the #13 pick would turn into an impact player. Instead, Ballard went out and got a pretty much "for sure" impact player by trading the pick.

I am beginning to like the trade.

Also, Donald's first 4 seasons were 23-26. Buckner is entering his age 26 season.

rcubed 03-17-2020 11:12 AM

Nice little breakdown of the contract

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2020/3/...kners-new-deal

HoosierinFL 03-17-2020 11:40 AM

Not worried about the contract, we have so much cap space that this does not affect anything. We can still sign our own as needed, and still have more than plenty of room to sign a handful of moderately priced free agents and even one more big price FA (like a QB) if needed.

rm1369 03-17-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 156503)
Not worried about the contract, we have so much cap space that this does not affect anything. We can still sign our own as needed, and still have more than plenty of room to sign a handful of moderately priced free agents and even one more big price FA (like a QB) if needed.

The concern wouldn’t be for the this year or next. It would be for 2-3 years from now as other guys contracts come up. Guys are going to want paid - especially if the team starts winning. That’s why the structure of the contract matters. And they are doing it right. Front loading and not using signing bonuses that are spread out over the life of the contract. When they need to move on from someone they will pay little penalty to do it. Sure it doesn’t matter much now, but it will.

Brylok 03-17-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156420)
Same here great trade for both teams. Can you imagine how many tackles Leonard and Walker will get now with Buckner demanding a double team? :eek:

Yep and Houston will probably be more productive as well. DBs should get a few more interceptions. Love. It.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-17-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156420)
Same here great trade for both teams. Can you imagine how many tackles Leonard and Walker will get now with Buckner demanding a double team? :eek:

Saw this stat about double teams: :cool:


Most double teams faced as a pass rusher since 2016:

Kenny Clark - 221
Maliek Collins - 196
Aaron Donald - 195
DeForest Buckner - 194


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